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[Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed
Hello,
After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and months
of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki has been
officially changed. This applies to both the software and logo of
https://mediawiki.org.

The old logo of MediaWiki was adopted slightly more than fifteen years ago.
This logo was featuring the nice concept of a sunflower representing
diversity, constant growth and also wilderness.

However, with years, the logo became outdated and we realized that it had
several problems, including but not limited to:

- It was a bitmap picture so it’s unusable in large sizes
- Its high details (“too realistic”) made it unusable in small sizes
- Its fixed and realistic style made it hard to have variations or
adaptations

Most, virtually all, software products use a simpler and more abstract form
following basic logo design guidelines and best-practices to avoid above
(and more) issues. For example, docker, kubernetes, Ubuntu, Vue.js, React,
Apache Kafka and many more.

You can find the discussion of changing the logo in
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020
. As you can see on this page, a lot of interesting practical and
theoretical exchanges happened, leading to the final vote and decision.

The new logo represents a collection of projects built on our engine: each
petal is one of the many wikis that we support, and the lack of an explicit
core shows that we are part of these projects, as well as and they are part
of MediaWiki. The new logo also reflects the fact that evolution never
stops, and like the petals of a flower, the development of each project,
the growth of each community built on our engine allows everyone else to
grow.

The designer of the new logo is [[User:Serhio Magpie]]. With the nice
abstraction baked-in, you can use it in large or small sizes or you can
adapt it for different usecases (there’s one already for mediawiki on
docker: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274678). There is a logo
guideline for MediaWiki now:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_logo_guidelines

We already deployed changes to mediawiki.org and landed related patches on
master, meaning from 1.36 release onwards, it’ll come with the new logo.
You can follow the work of rolling it out in
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268230.

I humbly ask Wikimedians to update their wikis, for example usages on the
main pages, Wikipedia articles, templates, and more. You can use the logos
in this category on Commons. The files are already protected against upload
vandalism. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logo_(2020)

A big thank you to all who helped this project to finish. From designers,
community members, people who voted and discussed it intensively for
months, Wikimedia Legal for doing all the necessary work for transferring
the rights, clearing it and filing it for trademark. And many many more
people.

Best
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed [ In reply to ]
I love this. It looks great on the site. Thanks Serhio and all :)

On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 7:28 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and
> months of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki has
> been officially changed. This applies to both the software and logo of
> https://mediawiki.org.
>
> The old logo of MediaWiki was adopted slightly more than fifteen years
> ago. This logo was featuring the nice concept of a sunflower representing
> diversity, constant growth and also wilderness.
>
> However, with years, the logo became outdated and we realized that it had
> several problems, including but not limited to:
>
> - It was a bitmap picture so it’s unusable in large sizes
> - Its high details (“too realistic”) made it unusable in small sizes
> - Its fixed and realistic style made it hard to have variations or
> adaptations
>
> Most, virtually all, software products use a simpler and more abstract
> form following basic logo design guidelines and best-practices to avoid
> above (and more) issues. For example, docker, kubernetes, Ubuntu, Vue.js,
> React, Apache Kafka and many more.
>
> You can find the discussion of changing the logo in
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020
> . As you can see on this page, a lot of interesting practical and
> theoretical exchanges happened, leading to the final vote and decision.
>
> The new logo represents a collection of projects built on our engine: each
> petal is one of the many wikis that we support, and the lack of an explicit
> core shows that we are part of these projects, as well as and they are part
> of MediaWiki. The new logo also reflects the fact that evolution never
> stops, and like the petals of a flower, the development of each project,
> the growth of each community built on our engine allows everyone else to
> grow.
>
> The designer of the new logo is [[User:Serhio Magpie]]. With the nice
> abstraction baked-in, you can use it in large or small sizes or you can
> adapt it for different usecases (there’s one already for mediawiki on
> docker: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274678). There is a logo
> guideline for MediaWiki now:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_logo_guidelines
>
> We already deployed changes to mediawiki.org and landed related patches
> on master, meaning from 1.36 release onwards, it’ll come with the new logo.
> You can follow the work of rolling it out in
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268230.
>
> I humbly ask Wikimedians to update their wikis, for example usages on the
> main pages, Wikipedia articles, templates, and more. You can use the logos
> in this category on Commons. The files are already protected against upload
> vandalism.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logo_(2020)
>
> A big thank you to all who helped this project to finish. From designers,
> community members, people who voted and discussed it intensively for
> months, Wikimedia Legal for doing all the necessary work for transferring
> the rights, clearing it and filing it for trademark. And many many more
> people.
>
> Best
> --
> Amir (he/him)
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed [ In reply to ]
Nice outcome. Congrats to all

Anthere

PS: yet a little bit sad though :(


Le 01/04/2021 à 01:27, Amir Sarabadani a écrit :
> Hello,
> After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and
> months of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki
> has been officially changed. This applies to both the software and
> logo of https://mediawiki.org <https://mediawiki.org>.
>
> The old logo of MediaWiki was adopted slightly more than fifteen years
> ago. This logo was featuring the nice concept of a sunflower
> representing diversity, constant growth and also wilderness.
>
> However, with years, the logo became outdated and we realized that it
> had several problems, including but not limited to:
>
> * It was a bitmap picture so it’s unusable in large sizes
> * Its high details (“too realistic”) made it unusable in small sizes
> * Its fixed and realistic style made it hard to have variations or
> adaptations
>
> Most, virtually all, software products use a simpler and more abstract
> form following basic logo design guidelines and best-practices to
> avoid above (and more) issues. For example, docker, kubernetes,
> Ubuntu, Vue.js, React, Apache Kafka and many more.
>
> You can find the discussion of changing the logo in
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020>
> . As you can see on this page, a lot of interesting practical and
> theoretical exchanges happened, leading to the final vote and decision.
>
> The new logo represents a collection of projects built on our engine:
> each petal is one of the many wikis that we support, and the lack of
> an explicit core shows that we are part of these projects, as well as
> and they are part of MediaWiki. The new logo also reflects the fact
> that evolution never stops, and like the petals of a flower, the
> development of each project, the growth of each community built on our
> engine allows everyone else to grow.
>
> The designer of the new logo is [[User:Serhio Magpie]]. With the nice
> abstraction baked-in, you can use it in large or small sizes or you
> can adapt it for different usecases (there’s one already for mediawiki
> on docker: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274678
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274678>). There is a logo
> guideline for MediaWiki now:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_logo_guidelines
> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_logo_guidelines>
>
> We already deployed changes to mediawiki.org <http://mediawiki.org>
> and landed related patches on master, meaning from 1.36 release
> onwards, it’ll come with the new logo. You can follow the work of
> rolling it out in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268230.
> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268230.>
>
> I humbly ask Wikimedians to update their wikis, for example usages on
> the main pages, Wikipedia articles, templates, and more. You can use
> the logos in this category on Commons. The files are already protected
> against upload vandalism.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logo_(2020)
> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logo_(2020)>
>
> A big thank you to all who helped this project to finish. From
> designers, community members, people who voted and discussed it
> intensively for months, Wikimedia Legal for doing all the necessary
> work for transferring the rights, clearing it and filing it for
> trademark. And many many more people.
>
> Best
> --
> Amir (he/him)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed [ In reply to ]
Hi

So Sorry, I immediately associated it with the logo BP rolled out in the
late 1990's except with new colours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP



On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 10:29, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice outcome. Congrats to all
>
> Anthere
>
> PS: yet a little bit sad though :(
>
>
> Le 01/04/2021 à 01:27, Amir Sarabadani a écrit :
>
> Hello,
> After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and
> months of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki has
> been officially changed. This applies to both the software and logo of
> https://mediawiki.org.
>
> The old logo of MediaWiki was adopted slightly more than fifteen years
> ago. This logo was featuring the nice concept of a sunflower representing
> diversity, constant growth and also wilderness.
>
> However, with years, the logo became outdated and we realized that it had
> several problems, including but not limited to:
>
> - It was a bitmap picture so it’s unusable in large sizes
> - Its high details (“too realistic”) made it unusable in small sizes
> - Its fixed and realistic style made it hard to have variations or
> adaptations
>
> Most, virtually all, software products use a simpler and more abstract
> form following basic logo design guidelines and best-practices to avoid
> above (and more) issues. For example, docker, kubernetes, Ubuntu, Vue.js,
> React, Apache Kafka and many more.
>
> You can find the discussion of changing the logo in
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020
> . As you can see on this page, a lot of interesting practical and
> theoretical exchanges happened, leading to the final vote and decision.
>
> The new logo represents a collection of projects built on our engine: each
> petal is one of the many wikis that we support, and the lack of an explicit
> core shows that we are part of these projects, as well as and they are part
> of MediaWiki. The new logo also reflects the fact that evolution never
> stops, and like the petals of a flower, the development of each project,
> the growth of each community built on our engine allows everyone else to
> grow.
>
> The designer of the new logo is [[User:Serhio Magpie]]. With the nice
> abstraction baked-in, you can use it in large or small sizes or you can
> adapt it for different usecases (there’s one already for mediawiki on
> docker: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274678). There is a logo
> guideline for MediaWiki now:
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_logo_guidelines
>
> We already deployed changes to mediawiki.org and landed related patches
> on master, meaning from 1.36 release onwards, it’ll come with the new logo.
> You can follow the work of rolling it out in
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268230.
>
> I humbly ask Wikimedians to update their wikis, for example usages on the
> main pages, Wikipedia articles, templates, and more. You can use the logos
> in this category on Commons. The files are already protected against upload
> vandalism.
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logo_(2020)
>
> A big thank you to all who helped this project to finish. From designers,
> community members, people who voted and discussed it intensively for
> months, Wikimedia Legal for doing all the necessary work for transferring
> the rights, clearing it and filing it for trademark. And many many more
> people.
>
> Best
> --
> Amir (he/him)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed [ In reply to ]
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 4:28 PM Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup@gmail.com> wrote:

> After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and
> months of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki
> has been officially changed.

It looks beautiful and professional. Excellent work by Serhio, the
organizers & everyone else who made this change happen. The installer
variant [1] is also very clever.

The sunflower logo (which I quickly put together many years ago based
on a lovely photograph by Florence) has certainly had a good run, but
it was well past time for a fresh look, IMO. As you pointed out, it
violates basically all rules of good logo design. >:-)

Fun fact: It was originally a submission to the Wikipedia logo
contest, where it came in third and the current Wikimedia logo came in
second. [2] It was pretty close - in some parallel universe, the
internationally recognized symbol of Wikipedia may not be the puzzle
globe, but a sunflower surrounded by square brackets. Make of that
what you will. ;-)

Warmly,
Erik

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki-2020-installer-large-icon.svg
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/International_logo_contest/Results

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Logo of MediaWiki has changed [ In reply to ]
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 4:53 AM Gnangarra <gnangarra@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> So Sorry, I immediately associated it with the logo BP rolled out in the
> late 1990's except with new colours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP
>

See
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020/Round_1#Comments_(6)
They are similar only to the extent any two stylized round flower logos
would look similar.

Also, this has been cleared against registered trademarks. That's why it
took five months from the selection process until rolling it out.


> On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 10:29, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nice outcome. Congrats to all
>>
>> Anthere
>>
>> PS: yet a little bit sad though :(
>>
>>
>> Le 01/04/2021 à 01:27, Amir Sarabadani a écrit :
>>
>> Hello,
>> After more than one year of design, discussion, vote, iteration, and
>> months of legal work, I’m happy to announce that the logo of MediaWiki has
>> been officially changed. This applies to both the software and logo of
>> https://mediawiki.org.
>>
>> The old logo of MediaWiki was adopted slightly more than fifteen years
>> ago. This logo was featuring the nice concept of a sunflower representing
>> diversity, constant growth and also wilderness.
>>
>> However, with years, the logo became outdated and we realized that it had
>> several problems, including but not limited to:
>>
>> - It was a bitmap picture so it’s unusable in large sizes
>> - Its high details (“too realistic”) made it unusable in small sizes
>> - Its fixed and realistic style made it hard to have variations or
>> adaptations
>>
>> Most, virtually all, software products use a simpler and more abstract
>> form following basic logo design guidelines and best-practices to avoid
>> above (and more) issues. For example, docker, kubernetes, Ubuntu, Vue.js,
>> React, Apache Kafka and many more.
>>
>> You can find the discussion of changing the logo in
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Proposal_for_changing_logo_of_MediaWiki,_2020
>> . As you can see on this page, a lot of interesting practical and
>> theoretical exchanges happened, leading to the final vote and decision.
>>
>> The new logo represents a collection of projects built on our engine:
>> each petal is one of the many wikis that we support, and the lack of an
>> explicit core shows that we are part of these projects, as well as and they
>> are part of MediaWiki. The new logo also reflects the fact that evolution
>> never stops, and like the petals of a flower, the development of each
>> project, the growth of each community built on our engine allows everyone
>> else to grow.
>>
>> The designer of the new logo is [[User:Serhio Magpie]]. With the nice
>> abstraction baked-in, you can use it in large or small sizes or you can
>> adapt it for different usecases (there’s one already for mediawiki on
>> docker: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T274678). There is a logo
>> guideline for MediaWiki now:
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_logo_guidelines
>>
>> We already deployed changes to mediawiki.org and landed related patches
>> on master, meaning from 1.36 release onwards, it’ll come with the new logo.
>> You can follow the work of rolling it out in
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268230.
>>
>> I humbly ask Wikimedians to update their wikis, for example usages on the
>> main pages, Wikipedia articles, templates, and more. You can use the logos
>> in this category on Commons. The files are already protected against upload
>> vandalism.
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_logo_(2020)
>>
>> A big thank you to all who helped this project to finish. From designers,
>> community members, people who voted and discussed it intensively for
>> months, Wikimedia Legal for doing all the necessary work for transferring
>> the rights, clearing it and filing it for trademark. And many many more
>> people.
>>
>> Best
>> --
>> Amir (he/him)
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l
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>>
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