It is disturbing that you would even consider overriding the community in such a massive way.
On Aug 23, 2019, at 9:44 PM, James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
> The board will be discussing this of course. We do not have a group
> position at this point in time.
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:47 PM Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> James
>>
>> Thanks for that. As a member of the Board, would you clarify the Board's
>> position on whether it is prepared to see the final Recommendations
>> implemented irrespective of any disagreement from the community?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:05 PM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I for one do not agree with Jan-Bart's prior position.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 4:40 AM Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paulo,
>>>>
>>>> You suggest that "things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia community
>>>> does not approve some of the recommendations". You may recall that
>> just
>>>> five years ago, Jan-Bart de Vreede, then chair of the WMF Board,
>>> expressed
>>>> the opinion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:LilaTretikov_(WMF)&diff=prev&oldid=9585319
>>>> over
>>>> a much less dramatic change.
>>>>
>>>>> All of this is going to require change, change that might not be
>>>> acceptable to some of you. I hope that all of you will be a part of
>> this
>>>> next step in our evolution. But I understand that if you decide to
>> take a
>>>> wiki-break, that might be the way things have to be. Even so, you have
>> to
>>>> let the Foundation do its work and allow us all to take that next step
>>> when
>>>> needed. I can only hope that your break is temporary, and that you will
>>>> return when the time is right.
>>>>
>>>> I presume this is a good summary of the WMF position today.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:06 AM Paulo Santos Perneta <
>>>> paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I've well understood the timeline, all input from the Wikimedia
>>>>> community ceases in mid September. Then it's all defined by the WGs
>>> 8and
>>>>> their advisors), and eventually decided upon by the BoT around
>>> December.
>>>>> Therefore, after 15 September or so, the Wikimedia community will
>> only
>>> be
>>>>> dealing with those recommendations again when they are already in the
>>>>> process of implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's quite easy to predict that things will not get pretty if the
>>>> Wikimedia
>>>>> community does not approve some of the recommendations that pass all
>>> the
>>>>> way till implementation phase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paulo
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de> escreveu no dia quinta,
>>>>> 22/08/2019
>>>>> à(s) 11:58:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your engagement and input. It’s been great seeing so
>>> much
>>>>>> attention on movement strategy and collaborative efforts for
>> building
>>>> our
>>>>>> future. Here are a couple of follow up responses and
>> clarifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DRAFTS
>>>>>> As pointed out in my previous email, the documents we recently
>> shared
>>>> are
>>>>>> recommendation drafts. They are not final, and not complete, but
>>>> working
>>>>>> documents that are currently being refined by the working groups.
>>> Some
>>>>>> answers still read like stubs that are longing for further
>>> development,
>>>>>> others are very detailed and will become more focused over the next
>>> few
>>>>>> weeks. We still decided to publish everything at once, to give
>>>> everyone a
>>>>>> full picture of the variety of topics and offer an insight into
>>>> multiple
>>>>>> progress levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also like to reiterate that movement values, priorities and
>>>>>> community conversation processes are high on our radar. A
>>>> recommendation
>>>>> to
>>>>>> change the existing license model, for example, will not just go
>>>> through
>>>>> a
>>>>>> quick approval process, but lead to a deeper exploration into the
>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>> behind it: What problems are we trying to tackle, and what could be
>>>> ways
>>>>> to
>>>>>> mitigate them? Such recommendation would then rather suggest to
>> look
>>>> into
>>>>>> different measures to ensure indigenous knowledge is included in
>> the
>>>>>> Wikimedia ecosystem, deploy research and further consultation,
>>> instead
>>>> of
>>>>>> rushing to a quick fix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INTEGRATION
>>>>>> The working groups are taking input that they gathered at Wikimania
>>> and
>>>>> via
>>>>>> different movement channels and incorporating it into the next
>>>> iteration
>>>>> of
>>>>>> their recommendations. These documents will then serve as a basis
>> for
>>>>>> harmonization across working groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The input that we are gathering comes in on different levels. Some
>> of
>>>> it
>>>>>> targets structural level changes or emphasizes specific principles
>> or
>>>>>> values, while other feedback is more on the programmatic side or
>>>> already
>>>>>> addressing implementation. Structural input will continue to be
>>>>> considered
>>>>>> in forthcoming iterations of the recommendations. Programmatic
>> input
>>>> will
>>>>>> be documented and taken forward to inform the implementation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIMELINE
>>>>>> We wanted to get the English drafts out as soon as possible and the
>>>>>> translations on a rolling basis, so that Wikimania participants
>> could
>>>>> read
>>>>>> and prepare to engage in person. Over the next few weeks, we will
>> do
>>>>>> targeted, public outreach to online project communities in multiple
>>>>>> languages. We are soliciting feedback to shape the overall
>> direction
>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>> recommendations through mid-September. Working Groups are already
>>>> working
>>>>>> on identifying gaps and overlaps with other groups to prepare for
>>>>>> harmonization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the harmonization sprint in Tunis on 20-22 September, we will
>>> bring
>>>> 3
>>>>>> representatives from each Working Group together to work to
>> develop a
>>>>> more
>>>>>> coherent set of recommendations. The group will be supported by
>>>>>> facilitators and external advice, as well as the core team. We have
>>>> also
>>>>>> invited María Sefidari, Katherine Maher, Ryan Merkley, Valerie
>>> D’Costa
>>>>>> (Wikimedia Foundation) and Abraham Taherivand (Wikimedia
>> Deutschland)
>>>> to
>>>>>> the sprint. They contribute expertise and experience from their
>> work
>>>> and
>>>>>> leadership in the movement and beyond. They will be active
>> listeners
>>>> and
>>>>>> can challenge recommendations by pointing out risks and
>> consequences
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>> organizational and movement level. They also participate as the
>>>>>> representatives of organizations that may be impacted by the
>>>>>> recommendations. Involving them early is important so they can
>>>> anticipate
>>>>>> any possible changes for their staff and programs, and plan for
>>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our aim is to release recommendations in November 2019, and present
>>>> them
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the Board of Trustees for approval in December. We will need the
>>> legal
>>>>>> authority of the board for some of the recommendations, while
>> others
>>>> will
>>>>>> then be further delegated to other community mechanisms and
>>> structures
>>>>> for
>>>>>> approval or further consultation.[1] There will be additional
>> public
>>>>>> consultation activities around implementation that will be
>> discussed
>>>> and
>>>>>> owned across the movement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WORKING GROUPS
>>>>>> We have chosen the working group model to ensure that the process
>>> that
>>>>>> embarks to make significant changes to our movement structures is
>>> owned
>>>>> by
>>>>>> the community. Members of the nine working group were selected by a
>>>>>> steering committee and the groups were established in July 2019.[2]
>>>> Group
>>>>>> members come from different parts of the movement, e.g. from
>>> different
>>>>>> regions and languages, from individual contributors and organized
>>>> groups,
>>>>>> and with different volunteer and staff roles, incl. Wikimedia
>>>> Foundation
>>>>>> staff and board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The groups are doing an amazing job. With many of them being
>>>> volunteers,
>>>>> or
>>>>>> doing this work on top of their regular jobs, creating the draft
>>>>>> recommendations is a huge achievement. They first needed to form,
>>> storm
>>>>> and
>>>>>> norm as a group and figure out how to best work together across
>> time
>>>>> zones,
>>>>>> languages, and contexts. They then took a deep dive into the
>>> substance
>>>>> and
>>>>>> identified the scope of their work and the specific questions to
>>> tackle
>>>>> for
>>>>>> us as a movement to advance in our strategic direction. The
>>> development
>>>>> of
>>>>>> recommendations has started in spring this year, and – aside from
>>> many
>>>>>> online calls, asynchronous work and scarce in-person meetings –
>>>> included
>>>>>> incorporating community conversations and external expertise. It is
>>>> only
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the hard work of these groups that we finally have something
>> tangible
>>>> in
>>>>>> front of us that we can all react to and help further improve to
>>> build
>>>>> our
>>>>>> future together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please join us in thanking, celebrating and supporting them, rather
>>>> than
>>>>>> rushing to conclusions or arguing over details. Please contribute
>> in
>>>>> good
>>>>>> faith, and in a constructive way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you have further questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/July_2018_-_Board_of_Trustees_participation_in_the_Movement_Strategy_Process
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Procedures
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 13:13, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this is the core problem of the whole process (which has been
>>>>> pointed
>>>>>>> out by multiple people from the very beginning)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Yaroslav
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jeff Hawke <
>>> geoffey.hawke@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett <
>>>>>> andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke <
>>>> geoffey.hawke@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
>>>>>>>>>> recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step;
>>> the
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider
>>>>>> Wikimedia
>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That step is not mentioned at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
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On Aug 23, 2019, at 9:44 PM, James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
> The board will be discussing this of course. We do not have a group
> position at this point in time.
>
> J
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:47 PM Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> James
>>
>> Thanks for that. As a member of the Board, would you clarify the Board's
>> position on whether it is prepared to see the final Recommendations
>> implemented irrespective of any disagreement from the community?
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:05 PM James Heilman <jmh649@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I for one do not agree with Jan-Bart's prior position.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 4:40 AM Jeff Hawke <geoffey.hawke@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paulo,
>>>>
>>>> You suggest that "things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia community
>>>> does not approve some of the recommendations". You may recall that
>> just
>>>> five years ago, Jan-Bart de Vreede, then chair of the WMF Board,
>>> expressed
>>>> the opinion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:LilaTretikov_(WMF)&diff=prev&oldid=9585319
>>>> over
>>>> a much less dramatic change.
>>>>
>>>>> All of this is going to require change, change that might not be
>>>> acceptable to some of you. I hope that all of you will be a part of
>> this
>>>> next step in our evolution. But I understand that if you decide to
>> take a
>>>> wiki-break, that might be the way things have to be. Even so, you have
>> to
>>>> let the Foundation do its work and allow us all to take that next step
>>> when
>>>> needed. I can only hope that your break is temporary, and that you will
>>>> return when the time is right.
>>>>
>>>> I presume this is a good summary of the WMF position today.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:06 AM Paulo Santos Perneta <
>>>> paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I've well understood the timeline, all input from the Wikimedia
>>>>> community ceases in mid September. Then it's all defined by the WGs
>>> 8and
>>>>> their advisors), and eventually decided upon by the BoT around
>>> December.
>>>>> Therefore, after 15 September or so, the Wikimedia community will
>> only
>>> be
>>>>> dealing with those recommendations again when they are already in the
>>>>> process of implementation.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's quite easy to predict that things will not get pretty if the
>>>> Wikimedia
>>>>> community does not approve some of the recommendations that pass all
>>> the
>>>>> way till implementation phase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paulo
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicole Ebber <nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de> escreveu no dia quinta,
>>>>> 22/08/2019
>>>>> à(s) 11:58:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your engagement and input. It’s been great seeing so
>>> much
>>>>>> attention on movement strategy and collaborative efforts for
>> building
>>>> our
>>>>>> future. Here are a couple of follow up responses and
>> clarifications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DRAFTS
>>>>>> As pointed out in my previous email, the documents we recently
>> shared
>>>> are
>>>>>> recommendation drafts. They are not final, and not complete, but
>>>> working
>>>>>> documents that are currently being refined by the working groups.
>>> Some
>>>>>> answers still read like stubs that are longing for further
>>> development,
>>>>>> others are very detailed and will become more focused over the next
>>> few
>>>>>> weeks. We still decided to publish everything at once, to give
>>>> everyone a
>>>>>> full picture of the variety of topics and offer an insight into
>>>> multiple
>>>>>> progress levels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also like to reiterate that movement values, priorities and
>>>>>> community conversation processes are high on our radar. A
>>>> recommendation
>>>>> to
>>>>>> change the existing license model, for example, will not just go
>>>> through
>>>>> a
>>>>>> quick approval process, but lead to a deeper exploration into the
>>>>> reasoning
>>>>>> behind it: What problems are we trying to tackle, and what could be
>>>> ways
>>>>> to
>>>>>> mitigate them? Such recommendation would then rather suggest to
>> look
>>>> into
>>>>>> different measures to ensure indigenous knowledge is included in
>> the
>>>>>> Wikimedia ecosystem, deploy research and further consultation,
>>> instead
>>>> of
>>>>>> rushing to a quick fix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INTEGRATION
>>>>>> The working groups are taking input that they gathered at Wikimania
>>> and
>>>>> via
>>>>>> different movement channels and incorporating it into the next
>>>> iteration
>>>>> of
>>>>>> their recommendations. These documents will then serve as a basis
>> for
>>>>>> harmonization across working groups.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The input that we are gathering comes in on different levels. Some
>> of
>>>> it
>>>>>> targets structural level changes or emphasizes specific principles
>> or
>>>>>> values, while other feedback is more on the programmatic side or
>>>> already
>>>>>> addressing implementation. Structural input will continue to be
>>>>> considered
>>>>>> in forthcoming iterations of the recommendations. Programmatic
>> input
>>>> will
>>>>>> be documented and taken forward to inform the implementation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIMELINE
>>>>>> We wanted to get the English drafts out as soon as possible and the
>>>>>> translations on a rolling basis, so that Wikimania participants
>> could
>>>>> read
>>>>>> and prepare to engage in person. Over the next few weeks, we will
>> do
>>>>>> targeted, public outreach to online project communities in multiple
>>>>>> languages. We are soliciting feedback to shape the overall
>> direction
>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>>> recommendations through mid-September. Working Groups are already
>>>> working
>>>>>> on identifying gaps and overlaps with other groups to prepare for
>>>>>> harmonization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the harmonization sprint in Tunis on 20-22 September, we will
>>> bring
>>>> 3
>>>>>> representatives from each Working Group together to work to
>> develop a
>>>>> more
>>>>>> coherent set of recommendations. The group will be supported by
>>>>>> facilitators and external advice, as well as the core team. We have
>>>> also
>>>>>> invited María Sefidari, Katherine Maher, Ryan Merkley, Valerie
>>> D’Costa
>>>>>> (Wikimedia Foundation) and Abraham Taherivand (Wikimedia
>> Deutschland)
>>>> to
>>>>>> the sprint. They contribute expertise and experience from their
>> work
>>>> and
>>>>>> leadership in the movement and beyond. They will be active
>> listeners
>>>> and
>>>>>> can challenge recommendations by pointing out risks and
>> consequences
>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>>> organizational and movement level. They also participate as the
>>>>>> representatives of organizations that may be impacted by the
>>>>>> recommendations. Involving them early is important so they can
>>>> anticipate
>>>>>> any possible changes for their staff and programs, and plan for
>>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Our aim is to release recommendations in November 2019, and present
>>>> them
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the Board of Trustees for approval in December. We will need the
>>> legal
>>>>>> authority of the board for some of the recommendations, while
>> others
>>>> will
>>>>>> then be further delegated to other community mechanisms and
>>> structures
>>>>> for
>>>>>> approval or further consultation.[1] There will be additional
>> public
>>>>>> consultation activities around implementation that will be
>> discussed
>>>> and
>>>>>> owned across the movement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WORKING GROUPS
>>>>>> We have chosen the working group model to ensure that the process
>>> that
>>>>>> embarks to make significant changes to our movement structures is
>>> owned
>>>>> by
>>>>>> the community. Members of the nine working group were selected by a
>>>>>> steering committee and the groups were established in July 2019.[2]
>>>> Group
>>>>>> members come from different parts of the movement, e.g. from
>>> different
>>>>>> regions and languages, from individual contributors and organized
>>>> groups,
>>>>>> and with different volunteer and staff roles, incl. Wikimedia
>>>> Foundation
>>>>>> staff and board.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The groups are doing an amazing job. With many of them being
>>>> volunteers,
>>>>> or
>>>>>> doing this work on top of their regular jobs, creating the draft
>>>>>> recommendations is a huge achievement. They first needed to form,
>>> storm
>>>>> and
>>>>>> norm as a group and figure out how to best work together across
>> time
>>>>> zones,
>>>>>> languages, and contexts. They then took a deep dive into the
>>> substance
>>>>> and
>>>>>> identified the scope of their work and the specific questions to
>>> tackle
>>>>> for
>>>>>> us as a movement to advance in our strategic direction. The
>>> development
>>>>> of
>>>>>> recommendations has started in spring this year, and – aside from
>>> many
>>>>>> online calls, asynchronous work and scarce in-person meetings –
>>>> included
>>>>>> incorporating community conversations and external expertise. It is
>>>> only
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the hard work of these groups that we finally have something
>> tangible
>>>> in
>>>>>> front of us that we can all react to and help further improve to
>>> build
>>>>> our
>>>>>> future together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please join us in thanking, celebrating and supporting them, rather
>>>> than
>>>>>> rushing to conclusions or arguing over details. Please contribute
>> in
>>>>> good
>>>>>> faith, and in a constructive way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you have further questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>> Nicole
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/July_2018_-_Board_of_Trustees_participation_in_the_Movement_Strategy_Process
>>>>>> [2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Procedures
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2019 at 13:13, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this is the core problem of the whole process (which has been
>>>>> pointed
>>>>>>> out by multiple people from the very beginning)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Yaroslav
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 12:27 PM Jeff Hawke <
>>> geoffey.hawke@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:41 PM Andy Mabbett <
>>>>>> andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 09:55, Jeff Hawke <
>>>> geoffey.hawke@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the WG then collate them and decide the final form of the
>>>>>>>>>> recommendations, to be implemented by the WMF
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This seems to be missing a rather crucial intermediate step;
>>> the
>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> where the recommendations are accepted, or not, by the wider
>>>>>> Wikimedia
>>>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That step is not mentioned at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Frequently_asked_questions#What_steps_will_take_place_in_the_next_few_months_to_put_a_decision-making_process_in_place
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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