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[Wikimedia-l] Maps for Haiti
Hoi,
A lot of effort has gone into getting ready to support OSM in our projects.

What I want the Wikimedia Foundation is to allow the use of OSM maps in the
Haitian Wikipedia because existing maps are largely not in sync with the
reality in Haiti. As I understood from information at the website of
Doctors without Borders, much of the infrastructure is gone and it is
problematic to know what exists. They rely on OSM.

By providing the best maps to the Haitian Wikipedia we provide a relevant
service. I understand that we do support OSM in Wikivoyage.

Could we please support OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia.
Thanks,
GerardM
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Maps for Haiti [ In reply to ]
That's something local community has to decide and when they decide to do so, they will have to submit their request to phabricator. See [1].

[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes
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2017. 3. 8. 18:19 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> ??:

> Hoi,
> A lot of effort has gone into getting ready to support OSM in our projects.
>
> What I want the Wikimedia Foundation is to allow the use of OSM maps in the
> Haitian Wikipedia because existing maps are largely not in sync with the
> reality in Haiti. As I understood from information at the website of
> Doctors without Borders, much of the infrastructure is gone and it is
> problematic to know what exists. They rely on OSM.
>
> By providing the best maps to the Haitian Wikipedia we provide a relevant
> service. I understand that we do support OSM in Wikivoyage.
>
> Could we please support OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Maps for Haiti [ In reply to ]
Hoi,
What the current state of play is that the WIkimaps people have it that it
cannot be done. That it will be denied.

So no. Could we have it and if so, THEN we may ask he Haitian community if
they want it. The same thing applies to other Wikipedias that want to show
maps of Haiti.
Thanks,


On 8 March 2017 at 10:31, Yongmin H. <lists@revi.pe.kr> wrote:

> That's something local community has to decide and when they decide to do
> so, they will have to submit their request to phabricator. See [1].
>
> [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes
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> 2017. 3. 8. 18:19 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> ??:
>
> > Hoi,
> > A lot of effort has gone into getting ready to support OSM in our
> projects.
> >
> > What I want the Wikimedia Foundation is to allow the use of OSM maps in
> the
> > Haitian Wikipedia because existing maps are largely not in sync with the
> > reality in Haiti. As I understood from information at the website of
> > Doctors without Borders, much of the infrastructure is gone and it is
> > problematic to know what exists. They rely on OSM.
> >
> > By providing the best maps to the Haitian Wikipedia we provide a relevant
> > service. I understand that we do support OSM in Wikivoyage.
> >
> > Could we please support OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia.
> > Thanks,
> > GerardM
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Maps for Haiti [ In reply to ]
On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> What the current state of play is that the WIkimaps people have it that it
> cannot be done. That it will be denied.

I don't understand your point. To be honest, I don't understand the
relation between Wikimaps (I understand it's this:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps ) and
OpenStreetMap
>
> So no. Could we have it and if so, THEN we may ask he Haitian community if
> they want it. The same thing applies to other Wikipedias that want to show
> maps of Haiti.

On the Italian Wikipedia we can see OSM maps of Haiti (see
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti on the top right the link "Mappa"
will popup the OSM map of Haiti); I guess the community asked at some
point.
I don't know how it works on mobiles, and whether it would work on
Wikipedia Zero programs, but on a technical level it is definitely
doable.

Marco

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Maps for Haiti [ In reply to ]
Hoi,
That is a subset of the functionality available to Wikivoyate ...
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/San_Francisco/SoMa#Get_in
Thanks,
GerardM

On 8 March 2017 at 11:09, Marco Chiesa <chiesa.marco@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Gerard Meijssen
> <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hoi,
> > What the current state of play is that the WIkimaps people have it that
> it
> > cannot be done. That it will be denied.
>
> I don't understand your point. To be honest, I don't understand the
> relation between Wikimaps (I understand it's this:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps ) and
> OpenStreetMap
> >
> > So no. Could we have it and if so, THEN we may ask he Haitian community
> if
> > they want it. The same thing applies to other Wikipedias that want to
> show
> > maps of Haiti.
>
> On the Italian Wikipedia we can see OSM maps of Haiti (see
> https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti on the top right the link "Mappa"
> will popup the OSM map of Haiti); I guess the community asked at some
> point.
> I don't know how it works on mobiles, and whether it would work on
> Wikipedia Zero programs, but on a technical level it is definitely
> doable.
>
> Marco
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Maps for Haiti [ In reply to ]
Le 08/03/2017 à 10:19, Gerard Meijssen a écrit :
> Hoi,
> A lot of effort has gone into getting ready to support OSM in our projects.
>
> What I want the Wikimedia Foundation is to allow the use of OSM maps in the
> Haitian Wikipedia because existing maps are largely not in sync with the
> reality in Haiti. As I understood from information at the website of
> Doctors without Borders, much of the infrastructure is gone and it is
> problematic to know what exists. They rely on OSM.
>
> By providing the best maps to the Haitian Wikipedia we provide a relevant
> service. I understand that we do support OSM in Wikivoyage.
>
> Could we please support OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia.

Hello,

In short:
* get community consensus
* fill a task in Phabricator for #wikimedia-site-requests
* profit!


The full explanation:


The Wikimedia Foundation renders OpenStreet map tiles on servers hosted
and maintained internally. The entry point can be seen at:

https://maps.wikimedia.org/


The integration in wiki projects is made possible by the MediaWiki
extension Kartographer:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer

That extension is enabled on every public wikis:

'wmgUseKartographer' => [
'default' => true,
'private' => false,
],

By default we only enable <maplink> which is a link that when clicked
popup a map for the given latitude/longitude at some zoom level. Example:

<maplink latitude="19.290" longitude="-72.842" zoom="8" />

Example: https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itilizatè:Hashar


To enable embedded maps, one needs to enable extra settings. You would
want to fill a task in Phabricator using #wikimedia-site-requests and a
requirement is to have community consensus about it. Typically done on
the Wiki equivalent of a village pump.

Past examples:

Finish wikipedia https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151591
Norwegian wikipedia https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154021


The technical change is absolutely trivial. I can not tell about its
implication for the mobile Zero data plan though. I am assuming that
maps.wikimedia.org is whitelisted.

cheers,

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