Mailing List Archive: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress

Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress

Mar 15, 2017, 2:28 AM

Post #1 of 11 (745 views)

I'm working my way through the Wiki guide for configuring Varnish to
work with Wordpress -
https://www.varnish-software.com/wiki/content/tutorials/wordpress/wp_step_by_step.html

Two questions immediately spring up -

Step 3 says to enable custom permalinks in Wordpress typing
/%year%/%monthnum%/%post_id% - My existing Wordpress sites all have
custom Permalinks. However they are mostly in the format of
/%postname%/ I don't really want to have to change all the permalinks.
Will Varnish still work ok for sites with custom Permalinks set at
/%postname%/ ?

The last part of Step 3 is to open a command prompt and run "ta2enmod
rewrite" as root. Mod_rewrite must already be enabled on my server so I
guess I can skip that step?

Hope someone can advise.

Myles

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

colas.delmas at gmail

Mar 15, 2017, 5:37 AM

Post #2 of 11 (745 views)

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Hi,

Will Varnish still work ok for sites with custom Permalinks set at
> /%postname%/ ?

Yes Varnish will still works with your custom Permalinks.

so I guess I can skip that step?

Indeed you don't need to run the step 3

You could find a more complete configuration of Varnish for Wordpress here
: https://github.com/colas31/varnish/blob/master/v4.1/wordpress.vcl it's
the one I use on my personal wordpress.

Best regards

*Nicolas Delmas*
http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <colas.delmas@gmail.com>

2017-03-15 10:28 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com>:

> I'm working my way through the Wiki guide for configuring Varnish to work
> with Wordpress - https://www.varnish-software.com/wiki/content/tutorials/
> wordpress/wp_step_by_step.html
>
> Two questions immediately spring up -
>
> Step 3 says to enable custom permalinks in Wordpress typing
> /%year%/%monthnum%/%post_id% - My existing Wordpress sites all have custom
> Permalinks. However they are mostly in the format of /%postname%/ I don't
> really want to have to change all the permalinks. Will Varnish still work
> ok for sites with custom Permalinks set at /%postname%/ ?
>
> The last part of Step 3 is to open a command prompt and run "ta2enmod
> rewrite" as root. Mod_rewrite must already be enabled on my server so I
> guess I can skip that step?
>
> Hope someone can advise.
>
> Myles
>
>
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Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

myles at magicalwonders

Mar 15, 2017, 5:56 AM

Post #3 of 11 (745 views)

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Hi Nicolas,

Thanks for the confirmation. :-) Also, thanks for the link showing VCL
settings for Wordpress. One of my sites is using WooCommerce and it
looks like it's got that covered! I have a couple of other possible
items I think I'll need to exclude but need to check further.

Best wishes,

Myles

On 15/03/2017 12:37, Nicolas Delmas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Will Varnish still work ok for sites with custom Permalinks set at
> /%postname%/ ?
>
>
> Yes Varnish will still works with your custom Permalinks.
>
> so I guess I can skip that step?
>
> Indeed you don't need to run the step 3
>
>
> You could find a more complete configuration of Varnish for Wordpress
> here :
> https://github.com/colas31/varnish/blob/master/v4.1/wordpress.vcl it's
> the one I use on my personal wordpress.
>
> Best regards
>
>
> *Nicolas Delmas*
> http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <mailto:colas.delmas@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-03-15 10:28 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com
> <mailto:myles@magicalwonders.com>>:
>
> I'm working my way through the Wiki guide for configuring Varnish
> to work with Wordpress -
> https://www.varnish-software.com/wiki/content/tutorials/wordpress/wp_step_by_step.html
> <https://www.varnish-software.com/wiki/content/tutorials/wordpress/wp_step_by_step.html>
>
> Two questions immediately spring up -
>
> Step 3 says to enable custom permalinks in Wordpress typing
> /%year%/%monthnum%/%post_id% - My existing Wordpress sites all
> have custom Permalinks. However they are mostly in the format of
> /%postname%/ I don't really want to have to change all the
> permalinks. Will Varnish still work ok for sites with custom
> Permalinks set at /%postname%/ ?
>
> The last part of Step 3 is to open a command prompt and run
> "ta2enmod rewrite" as root. Mod_rewrite must already be enabled on
> my server so I guess I can skip that step?
>
> Hope someone can advise.
>
> Myles
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> varnish-misc mailing list
> varnish-misc@varnish-cache.org <mailto:varnish-misc@varnish-cache.org>
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>
>

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

dridi at varni

Mar 15, 2017, 6:07 AM

Post #4 of 11 (742 views)

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> Yes Varnish will still works with your custom Permalinks.
>
>> so I guess I can skip that step?
>
> Indeed you don't need to run the step 3

Hello,

There's a "Show on GitHub" link on all wiki pages, don't hesitate to
open an issue or even submit a pull request to help improve the docs.

https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/blob/master/source/content/tutorials/wordpress/wp_step_by_step.rst

In this case, the wiki should probably suggest setting up permalinks
unless it's already the case. And the pattern should clearly appear as
a recommendation.

I will open an issue this time, but don't hesitate to participate to
the wiki on github.

Cheers

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Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

myles at magicalwonders

Mar 15, 2017, 8:22 AM

Post #5 of 11 (737 views)

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Ok Dridi, thanks.

Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that
Wordpress default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with
Varnish? If that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer
mentioning that and recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid
custom structure" ? Or something like that.

Best wishes,

Myles

On 15/03/2017 13:07, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
>> Yes Varnish will still works with your custom Permalinks.
>>
>>> so I guess I can skip that step?
>> Indeed you don't need to run the step 3
> Hello,
>
> There's a "Show on GitHub" link on all wiki pages, don't hesitate to
> open an issue or even submit a pull request to help improve the docs.
>
> https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/blob/master/source/content/tutorials/wordpress/wp_step_by_step.rst
>
> In this case, the wiki should probably suggest setting up permalinks
> unless it's already the case. And the pattern should clearly appear as
> a recommendation.
>
> I will open an issue this time, but don't hesitate to participate to
> the wiki on github.
>
> Cheers
>

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

dridi at varni

Mar 15, 2017, 8:25 AM

Post #6 of 11 (737 views)

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On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Magical Wonders
<myles@magicalwonders.com> wrote:
> Ok Dridi, thanks.
>
> Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that Wordpress
> default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If
> that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
> something like that.

Hello,

Why don't you directly comment on the github issue? I'm not a
wordpress user myself, so you're probably in a better position to
explain what's confusing you.

https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3

Cheers

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Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

myles at magicalwonders

Mar 15, 2017, 9:01 AM

Post #7 of 11 (737 views)

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Ok, I've added a comment now. I had to create a Github account and wait
for a confirmation email before I could post.

Myles :-)

On 15/03/2017 15:25, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Magical Wonders
> <myles@magicalwonders.com> wrote:
>> Ok Dridi, thanks.
>>
>> Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that Wordpress
>> default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If
>> that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
>> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
>> something like that.
> Hello,
>
> Why don't you directly comment on the github issue? I'm not a
> wordpress user myself, so you're probably in a better position to
> explain what's confusing you.
>
> https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3
>
> Cheers
>

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

colas.delmas at gmail

Mar 15, 2017, 12:43 PM

Post #8 of 11 (734 views)

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I'm guessing that Wordpress default permalinks are not recommended in
> conjunction with Varnish? If that's the case, maybe the instruction would
> be clearer mentioning that and recommending to "change Permalinks to any
> valid custom structure" ? Or something like that.

The structure of URL doesn't impact Varnish. It doesn't care about it. For
exemple on the same serveur I host 3 Wordpress and all have a different
structure of link.
I read again the step 3. And they just suggest to use permalink instead of
this kind of link ?id_post=x . And you could use all kind of permalink :

- %category_name%/%article_name/
- %article_name%
- %date%/article_name%
- ...

*Nicolas Delmas*
http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <colas.delmas@gmail.com>

2017-03-15 17:01 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com>:

> Ok, I've added a comment now. I had to create a Github account and wait
> for a confirmation email before I could post.
>
> Myles :-)
>
> On 15/03/2017 15:25, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Magical Wonders<myles@magicalwonders.com> <myles@magicalwonders.com> wrote:
>
> Ok Dridi, thanks.
>
> Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that Wordpress
> default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If
> that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
> something like that.
>
> Hello,
>
> Why don't you directly comment on the github issue? I'm not a
> wordpress user myself, so you're probably in a better position to
> explain what's confusing you.
> https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

myles at magicalwonders

Mar 15, 2017, 1:17 PM

Post #9 of 11 (734 views)

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The way it's been written though suggests it has to be the specific
custom structure mentioned. As it transpires the type of Permalinks used
in Wordpress have no actual impact on Varnish there's not that much
point in even referencing them? Unless I'm missing something?

Myles :-)

On 15/03/2017 19:43, Nicolas Delmas wrote:
>
>
> I'm guessing that Wordpress default permalinks are not
> recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If that's the case, maybe
> the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and recommending
> to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
> something like that.
>
> The structure of URL doesn't impact Varnish. It doesn't care about it.
> For exemple on the same serveur I host 3 Wordpress and all have a
> different structure of link.
> I read again the step 3. And they just suggest to use permalink
> instead of this kind of link ?id_post=x . And you could use all kind
> of permalink :
>
> * %category_name%/%article_name/
> * %article_name%
> * %date%/article_name%
> * ...
>
>
>
> *Nicolas Delmas*
> http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <mailto:colas.delmas@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-03-15 17:01 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com
> <mailto:myles@magicalwonders.com>>:
>
> Ok, I've added a comment now. I had to create a Github account and
> wait for a confirmation email before I could post.
>
> Myles :-)
>
>
> On 15/03/2017 15:25, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Magical Wonders
>> <myles@magicalwonders.com> <mailto:myles@magicalwonders.com> wrote:
>>> Ok Dridi, thanks.
>>>
>>> Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that Wordpress
>>> default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If
>>> that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
>>> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
>>> something like that.
>> Hello,
>>
>> Why don't you directly comment on the github issue? I'm not a
>> wordpress user myself, so you're probably in a better position to
>> explain what's confusing you.
>>
>> https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3
>> <https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3>
>>
>> Cheers
>>

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

colas.delmas at gmail

Mar 16, 2017, 12:03 AM

Post #10 of 11 (728 views)

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Of course, the type of Permalinks is important for SEO. I'm not enought
good in this domain to suggest one more than the other.

*Nicolas Delmas*
http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <colas.delmas@gmail.com>

2017-03-15 21:17 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com>:

> The way it's been written though suggests it has to be the specific custom
> structure mentioned. As it transpires the type of Permalinks used in
> Wordpress have no actual impact on Varnish there's not that much point in
> even referencing them? Unless I'm missing something?
>
> Myles :-)
>
> On 15/03/2017 19:43, Nicolas Delmas wrote:
>
>
> I'm guessing that Wordpress default permalinks are not recommended in
>> conjunction with Varnish? If that's the case, maybe the instruction would
>> be clearer mentioning that and recommending to "change Permalinks to any
>> valid custom structure" ? Or something like that.
>
> The structure of URL doesn't impact Varnish. It doesn't care about it. For
> exemple on the same serveur I host 3 Wordpress and all have a different
> structure of link.
> I read again the step 3. And they just suggest to use permalink instead of
> this kind of link ?id_post=x . And you could use all kind of permalink :
>
> - %category_name%/%article_name/
> - %article_name%
> - %date%/article_name%
> - ...
>
>
>
>
> *Nicolas Delmas*
> http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <colas.delmas@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-03-15 17:01 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com>:
>
>> Ok, I've added a comment now. I had to create a Github account and wait
>> for a confirmation email before I could post.
>>
>> Myles :-)
>>
>> On 15/03/2017 15:25, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Magical Wonders<myles@magicalwonders.com> <myles@magicalwonders.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok Dridi, thanks.
>>
>> Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that Wordpress
>> default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If
>> that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
>> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
>> something like that.
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Why don't you directly comment on the github issue? I'm not a
>> wordpress user myself, so you're probably in a better position to
>> explain what's confusing you.
>> https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>

Re: Custom Permalinks Setting in Wordpress [ In reply to ]

myles at magicalwonders

Mar 16, 2017, 1:42 AM

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Yes, they are relevant for SEO, and opinions from experts vary as to
which is the most effective. Yoast and many others suggest keeping it
simple by using /%postname%/. However, others argue against that and
suggest different structures! It's hard to know who is right sometimes!
:-) Personally I like to keep things simple, but I can see why other
structures may be more appropriate depending on the site involved. As
far as SEO goes, switching from the default settings to a custom
structure is definitely a good idea. :-)

Best wishes,

Myles

On 16/03/2017 07:03, Nicolas Delmas wrote:
> Of course, the type of Permalinks is important for SEO. I'm not
> enought good in this domain to suggest one more than the other.
>
> *Nicolas Delmas*
> http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <mailto:colas.delmas@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2017-03-15 21:17 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders <myles@magicalwonders.com
> <mailto:myles@magicalwonders.com>>:
>
> The way it's been written though suggests it has to be the
> specific custom structure mentioned. As it transpires the type of
> Permalinks used in Wordpress have no actual impact on Varnish
> there's not that much point in even referencing them? Unless I'm
> missing something?
>
> Myles :-)
>
>
> On 15/03/2017 19:43, Nicolas Delmas wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm guessing that Wordpress default permalinks are not
>> recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If that's the case,
>> maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
>> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom
>> structure" ? Or something like that.
>>
>> The structure of URL doesn't impact Varnish. It doesn't care
>> about it. For exemple on the same serveur I host 3 Wordpress and
>> all have a different structure of link.
>> I read again the step 3. And they just suggest to use permalink
>> instead of this kind of link ?id_post=x . And you could use all
>> kind of permalink :
>>
>> * %category_name%/%article_name/
>> * %article_name%
>> * %date%/article_name%
>> * ...
>>
>>
>>
>> *Nicolas Delmas*
>> http://tutoandco.colas-delmas.fr/ <mailto:colas.delmas@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2017-03-15 17:01 GMT+01:00 Magical Wonders
>> <myles@magicalwonders.com <mailto:myles@magicalwonders.com>>:
>>
>> Ok, I've added a comment now. I had to create a Github
>> account and wait for a confirmation email before I could post.
>>
>> Myles :-)
>>
>>
>> On 15/03/2017 15:25, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Magical Wonders
>>> <myles@magicalwonders.com> <mailto:myles@magicalwonders.com> wrote:
>>>> Ok Dridi, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Step 3 is a bit ambiguous in its present form. I'm guessing that Wordpress
>>>> default permalinks are not recommended in conjunction with Varnish? If
>>>> that's the case, maybe the instruction would be clearer mentioning that and
>>>> recommending to "change Permalinks to any valid custom structure" ? Or
>>>> something like that.
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Why don't you directly comment on the github issue? I'm not a
>>> wordpress user myself, so you're probably in a better position to
>>> explain what's confusing you.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3
>>> <https://github.com/varnish/varnish-wiki/issues/3>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>