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Hallo, Geert,

Du (stappers) meintest am 28.12.07:

> There was some wiki butchery done.
> Meanwhile it is reverted.
> ( See http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Recentchanges
> for mor information about it )

> Could a captcha[1] be added to the syslinux wiki
> to have some form of defence?

No - please don't!
I use blocking IP ranges.

http://arktur.de/Wiki/Spezial%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=

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Helmut

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Hello Helmut, Geert,

On 28 Dec 2007 11:12:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:

>No - please don't!
>I use blocking IP ranges.

Isn't blocking ip's a problem with dynamic ip's?

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Hallo, Arwin,

Du (arwin-tteam) meintest am 28.12.07:

[Wiki-Captchas]

>> No - please don't!
>> I use blocking IP ranges.

> Isn't blocking ip's a problem with dynamic ip's?

May be - collateral damage.

By the way: "ip's" isn't the plural of "ip".

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On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 04:54:00PM +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
> Hallo, Arwin,
>
> Du (arwin-tteam) meintest am 28.12.07:
>
> [Wiki-Captchas]
>
> >> No - please don't!
> >> I use blocking IP ranges.
>
> > Isn't blocking ip's a problem with dynamic ip's?
>
> May be - collateral damage.
>
> By the way: "ip's" isn't the plural of "ip".

And why do you people want to block protocols? =)


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Selon Helmut Hullen <Hullen@t-online.de>:

> Hallo, Arwin,
>
> Du (arwin-tteam) meintest am 28.12.07:
>
> [Wiki-Captchas]
>
> >> No - please don't!
Could you explain why?

> >> I use blocking IP ranges.
>
Is it the only reason to not have another defense level?

Every way could be defeated, but simple mesures allow to let 80% (if not 99%) of
spam away.


Gilles

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Hallo Helmut,

On 28 Dec 2007 16:54:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:

>By the way: "ip's" isn't the plural of "ip".

LOL, ip's is the plural of ip, but not in english;-)

Example:<http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Dynamische_IP's>

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Helmut Hullen wrote:
> Hallo, Geert,
>
> Du (stappers) meintest am 28.12.07:
>
>> There was some wiki butchery done.
>> Meanwhile it is reverted.
>> ( See http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Recentchanges
>> for mor information about it )
>
>> Could a captcha[1] be added to the syslinux wiki
>> to have some form of defence?
>
> No - please don't!
> I use blocking IP ranges.
>
> http://arktur.de/Wiki/Spezial%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=
>

A captcha seems to make more sense, but I'm not 100% sure how to insert
one into MediaWiki. I might have to ask John for help.

-hpa

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Hallo, Gilles,

Du (g.esp) meintest am 28.12.07:

>> [Wiki-Captchas]

>>>> No - please don't!

> Could you explain why?

I don't like them. In the last weeks I had to use them on several pages
- it was horrible. Most times I had to guess the characters (they were
nearly unreadable).
Blocking the write access for a range of IP addresses is a simplier way,
it blocks mostly korean, romanian and brasil addresses. I can live with
this restrictions.

Viele Gruesse!
Helmut

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Arwin Vosselman wrote:
> Hallo Helmut,
>
> On 28 Dec 2007 16:54:00 +0100, Helmut Hullen wrote:
>
>> By the way: "ip's" isn't the plural of "ip".
>
> LOL, ip's is the plural of ip, but not in english;-)
>
> Example:<http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Dynamische_IP's>
>

See also:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#Plurals_of_symbols_and_initialisms

-hpa

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Hallo, H.,

Du (hpa) meintest am 28.12.07:

>>> By the way: "ip's" isn't the plural of "ip".

> See also:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#Plurals_of_symbols_and_in
> itialisms

"abbreviations whose plural would be ambiguous" ... I had preferred
"IPs" which isn't (aren't?) ambiguous.


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Helmut

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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 10:19:26 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

>> Example:<http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorie:Wikipedia:Dynamische_IP's>
>>
>
>See also:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#Plurals_of_symbols_and_initialisms

Thanks. Should "ips" (or "IPs") be considered ambiguous or not?
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Arwin Vosselman wrote:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#Plurals_of_symbols_and_initialisms
>
> Thanks. Should "ips" (or "IPs") be considered ambiguous or not?

Pretty much up to the writer and context, I would think. In some
context there is potential confusion with IPS (instructions per second,
for example); or with the word "eyepiece". In other words, this is well
inside the grey area where it depends on context and author's style
preferences, I would think.

-hpa

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Heya,

* H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> [20071228 23:39]:
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_plural#Plurals_of_symbols_and_initialisms
> >
> > Thanks. Should "ips" (or "IPs") be considered ambiguous or not?
>
> Pretty much up to the writer and context, I would think. In some
> context there is potential confusion with IPS (instructions per second,
> for example); or with the word "eyepiece". In other words, this is well
> inside the grey area where it depends on context and author's style
> preferences, I would think.

IP addresses. d'uh ;)

Andreas

P.S: IPs should be fine *g*

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Op 28-12-2007 om 09:43 schreef H. Peter Anvin:
> >> ( See http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Special:Recentchanges
> >> for mor information about it )
>
> A captcha seems to make more sense, but I'm not 100% sure how to insert
> one into MediaWiki. I might have to ask John for help.

Could http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ be a help?


Cheers
Geert Stappers

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Helmut Hullen wrote:

> Hallo, Gilles,
>
> Du (g.esp) meintest am 28.12.07:
>
>>> [Wiki-Captchas]
>
>>>>> No - please don't!
>
>> Could you explain why?
>
> I don't like them. In the last weeks I had to use them on several
> pages - it was horrible. Most times I had to guess the characters
> (they were nearly unreadable).

There are many different kind of captchas - they don't all involve
reading graphically obfuscated characters.

"What is two by two?" is also a captcha. answer=4 :-)


/Per Jessen, Zürich

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