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Re: Problem booting from CF/SD cards and USB Flashdrives using syslinux [ In reply to ]
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, H. Peter Anvin wrote:

> c.lee111@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > So why does SYSLINUX 3.00+ fail to detect LBA/EBIOS support on my
> > machine when it is clearly being used as shown by the GRUB boot loader
> > on the 1st hard drive and the Windows 98 partition on the 2nd harddrive.
> >
>
> I looked back through your emails and I see *nothing* about booting from
> a hard disk, only from CF/SD cards. EBIOS support is on a drive by
> drive basis, not necessarily system-wide, unfortunately.
>
> -hpa
>
I was using using boot from an hard disk as an indication that my
machine *DOES* support LBA booting from the BIOS.


In fact I don't think any of the USB cardreaders/usb flashdrives I use or
ever seen has LBA/EBIOS support in the same sense as a harddrive, especially
if what the output of lshw is showing concering them is true.

partedmagic
description: Computer
width: 32 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.3 dmi-2.3
configuration: boot=normal uuid=03BD0081-148A-11DC-B8CE-00A0C90AF18F
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: D845GVSR
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
version: AAC45439-302
serial: BTSR44406009
slot: Audio Line In
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 0
version: VA84510A.86A.0050.P18.0409222329 (09/22/2004)
size: 64KB
capacity: 448KB
capabilities: pci pnp apm upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect edd int13floppynec int13floppytoshiba int13floppy360 int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb agp ls120boot zipboot biosbootspecification netboot
*-cpu
description: CPU
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vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: 15.4.9
serial: 0000-0F49-0000-0000-0000-0000
slot: X1
size: 2533MHz
capacity: 2800MHz
width: 32 bits
clock: 133MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
configuration: id=0
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
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slot: None
size: 16KB
capacity: 16KB
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies data
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 6
slot: None
size: 256KB
capacity: 256KB
capabilities: pipeline-burst internal varies unified
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 2f
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 768MB
capacity: 3GB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
product: PartNum1
vendor: Manufacturer1
physical id: 0
serial: SerNum1
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size: 512MB
width: 64 bits
clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DDR Synchronous 333 MHz (3.0 ns)
product: PartNum2
vendor: Manufacturer2
physical id: 1
serial: SerNum2
slot: J6G2
size: 256MB
width: 64 bits
clock: 333MHz (3.0ns)
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-intel module=intel_agp
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm vga bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=i810_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_i810
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: UHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22 uhci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@1
logical name: /dev/usb1
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=2 speed=12.0MB/s
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: UHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22 uhci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@2
logical name: /dev/usb2
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=2 speed=12.0MB/s
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: uhci bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: UHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22 uhci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@3
logical name: /dev/usb3
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-1.10
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=2 speed=12.0MB/s
*-usb:3
description: USB Controller
product: 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 module=ehci_hcd
*-usbhost
product: EHCI Host Controller
vendor: Linux 2.6.22 ehci_hcd
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@4
logical name: /dev/usb4
version: 2.06
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: maxpower=0mA slots=6 speed=480.0MB/s
*-usb:0
description: USB hub
product: USB Embedded Hub
vendor: Sony
physical id: 3
bus info: usb@4:3
version: 0.01
capabilities: usb-2.00
configuration: maxpower=100mA slots=1 speed=480.0MB/s
*-usb
description: Generic USB device
product: USB Mass Storage Device
vendor: Sony
physical id: 1
bus info: usb@4:3.1
logical name: scsi1
version: 0.01
capabilities: usb-2.00 emulated scsi-host
configuration: driver=usb-storage maxpower=0mA speed=480.0MB/s
*-disk
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vendor: Sony
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bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
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capabilities: removable
*-disc
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logical name: /dev/sde
size: 125MB
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*-volume
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physical id: 1
logical name: /dev/sde1
capacity: 117MB
capabilities: primary bootable
*-usb:1
description: Generic USB device
product: Mass Storage Device
vendor: Generic
physical id: 6
bus info: usb@4:6
logical name: scsi0
version: 1.00
serial: 058F312D81B1
capabilities: usb-2.00 emulated scsi-host
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*-disk:0
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB SD Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: 1.00
capabilities: removable
*-disc
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sda
*-disk:1
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB CF Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.1
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.1
logical name: /dev/sdb
version: 1.01
size: 977MB
capabilities: removable
*-disc
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sdb
size: 977MB
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logical name: /dev/sdb1
capacity: 977MB
capabilities: primary bootable
*-disk:2
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB SM Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.2
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.2
logical name: /dev/sdc
version: 1.02
capabilities: removable
*-disc
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sdc
*-disk:3
description: SCSI Disk
product: USB MS Reader
vendor: Generic
physical id: 0.0.3
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.3
logical name: /dev/sdd
version: 1.03
capabilities: removable
*-disc
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/sdd
*-pci
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801 PCI Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1e
bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
version: 81
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-communication UNCLAIMED
description: Communication controller
product: 536EP Data Fax Modem
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=32
*-network UNCLAIMED
description: Ethernet controller
product: 82801DB PRO/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 8
bus info: pci@0000:01:08.0
version: 81
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=32 maxlatency=56 mingnt=8
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master
configuration: driver=PIIX_IDE latency=0
*-ide:0
description: IDE Channel 0
physical id: 0
bus info: ide@0
logical name: ide0
clock: 33MHz
*-disk:0
description: ATA Disk
product: WDC WD400BB-00JKA0
vendor: Western Digital
physical id: 0
bus info: ide@0.0
logical name: /dev/hda
version: 05.01C05
serial: WD-WCAMF1020780
size: 37GB
capacity: 37GB
capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: mode=udma5 smart=on
*-volume
description: HPFS/NTFS partition
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@0.0,1
logical name: /dev/hda1
capacity: 37GB
capabilities: primary bootable
*-disk:1
description: ATA Disk
product: ST380013A
vendor: Seagate
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@0.1
logical name: /dev/hdb
version: 8.01
serial: 5JVJQ8PX
size: 74GB
capacity: 74GB
capabilities: ata dma lba iordy smart security pm partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: mode=udma5 smart=on
*-volume:0
description: W95 FAT32 (LBA) partition
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@0.1,1
logical name: /dev/hdb1
capacity: 10GB
capabilities: primary bootable
*-volume:1
description: Extended partition
physical id: 2
bus info: ide@0.1,2
logical name: /dev/hdb2
size: 40GB
capacity: 40GB
capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
*-logicalvolume:0
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 5
logical name: /dev/hdb5
capacity: 10GB
*-logicalvolume:1
description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
physical id: 6
logical name: /dev/hdb6
capacity: 509MB
capabilities: nofs
*-logicalvolume:2
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 7
logical name: /dev/hdb7
capacity: 2996MB
*-logicalvolume:3
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 8
logical name: /dev/hdb8
capacity: 6102MB
*-volume:2
description: Linux filesystem partition
physical id: 3
bus info: ide@0.1,3
logical name: /dev/hdb3
capacity: 10GB
capabilities: primary
*-ide:1
description: IDE Channel 1
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@1
logical name: ide1
clock: 33MHz
*-cdrom:0
description: DVD reader
product: TSST CDW/DVD TS-H492A
physical id: 0
bus info: ide@1.0
logical name: /dev/hdc
version: TB02
capabilities: packet atapi cdrom removable nonmagnetic dma lba iordy audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
configuration: mode=udma2 status=nodisc
*-cdrom:1
description: DVD writer
product: HP DVD Writer 530
physical id: 1
bus info: ide@1.1
logical name: /dev/hdd
version: VPS8
serial: CNK20050FR
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configuration: mode=udma2 status=nodisc
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=i801_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_i801
*-multimedia UNCLAIMED
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.5
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0












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Re: Problem booting from CF/SD cards and USB Flashdrives using syslinux [ In reply to ]
c.lee111@gmail.com wrote:
>>
> I was using using boot from an hard disk as an indication that my
> machine *DOES* support LBA booting from the BIOS.
>

... from a hard disk, yes. Different thing.

>
> In fact I don't think any of the USB cardreaders/usb flashdrives I use or
> ever seen has LBA/EBIOS support in the same sense as a harddrive, especially
> if what the output of lshw is showing concering them is true.
>

LBA/EBIOS is a BIOS issue, it has nothing to do with the drives
themselves, with the exception of some very old IDE hard drives.

-hpa

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