Mailing List Archive: Should this pass a SPF test?

I'm having a problem with one provider rejecting email that is forwarded
through our mailserver system to the end user's local ISP email system.
The headers are as follows, with only the email addresses destroyed to
as not to invite spam.

Note that webervations.com (if I understand the subnets properly) seems
to have a proper SPF record. It passed our checks. Also note that I am
running Amavisd-new as a frontend in order to do some spam filtering
before forwarding. I think this is the problem, but want to verify that
in fact this should pass SPF checks. I'm suspecting that the parasun.com
is not looking far enough back in the headers, therefore the failure.
Or, am I all wet and this should in fact not pass?

Note that my client's domain name (shown as gooddomainname.com below)
does not have a SPF record, therefore is not a factor in record checking.

----begin headers-------------

Subject:
Webervations Request !!
From:
<goodemailaddress@webervations.com>
Date:
Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:27:24 -0600
To:
<goodemailaddress@gooddomainname.com>
Received:
by orion.ew3d.com (Postfix) id D13991B80282; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:49
-0400 (EDT)
Received:
from orion.ew3d.com ([64.203.174.90]) by paloalto.server.parasun.com
with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1PD5ep-00086j-Tj for
goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
Received:
from [172.21.1.104] (helo=paloalto.server.parasun.com) by
ex-relay00.server.parasun.com with ESMTP (eXpurgate 3.1.1)
(envelope-from <reservations@webervations.com>) id
4ccf6900-028f-ac150168b018-1 for <goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com>; Mon,
01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
Received:
from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by orion.ew3d.com
(Postfix) with ESMTP id CED2C1B8027F for <goodusername@orion.ew3d.com>;
Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received:
from mail pickup service by web1.webervations.com with Microsoft
SMTPSVC; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:27:24 -0500
Received:
from web1.webervations.com (unknown [66.179.210.36]) by orion.ew3d.com
(Postfix) with ESMTP id 4995C1B801FC for
<goodemailaddress@gooddomainname.com>; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:47 -0400 (EDT)
Received:
from orion.ew3d.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (orion.ew3d.com
[127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z6lWeVuihlxg for
<goodusername@orion.ew3d.com>; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:49 -0400 (EDT)
Received:
from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail2.server.parasun.com) by
mail2.server.parasun.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from
<goodemailaddress@webervations.com>) id 1PD5eq-0005xf-FA for
goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
Received:
from bigip2.server.parasun.com ([172.21.0.4]
helo=mailout7.server.parasun.com) by mail2.server.parasun.com with esmtp
(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <goodemailaddress@webervations.com>) id
1PD5eq-0005xa-E8 for goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010
18:27:28 -0700
Received:
from bp1.parasun.com ([204.174.16.220] helo=paloalto.server.parasun.com)
by mailout7.server.parasun.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from
<goodemailaddresss@webervations.com>) id 1PD5eq-0001qK-AZ for
goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
Return-Path:
<goodemailaddress@webervations.com>
Reply-To:
<goodemailaddress@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID:
<ADWEB1QCIuTNPiHoH0s0006c791@web1.webervations.com>
MIME-Version:
1.0
Content-Type:
text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding:
7bit
X-Mailer:
Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
Thread-Index:
Act6LRx5nDvmdweAS82xvDTl5lzrqQ==

--
John Hinton
877-777-1407 ext 502
http://www.ew3d.com
Comprehensive Online Solutions

-------------------------------------------
Sender Policy Framework: http://www.openspf.org [http://www.openspf.org]
Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/ [http://www.listbox.com/member/]

Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/1020/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/1020/1311530-08394398
Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=1311530&id_secret=1311530-644bccd5
Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=1311530&id_secret=1311530-512c0f9e&post_id=20101109144159:6B04B876-EC39-11DF-BE12-18B6F559ED1D
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com

simply put NO

if the mail is forwarded (sent by you) to the receiver
it cannot possibly pass the original senders spf policy (as he did not list your ip in his policy

this is why a receiver of forwarded mail needs to whitelist those ips that forward email to him from all spf checks.
(if the receivers isp offers him no method of doing this, then he needs to pick a better isp or consider getting the forwarder to use SRS capable software, or just use pop3 instead of forwarding)

(unless as often stated the forwarder changes the address the mail comes from to be one of his own (and thus within his own spf policy) with a method such as SRS)

At 19:41 09/11/2010 Tuesday, John Hinton wrote:
>I'm having a problem with one provider rejecting email that is forwarded through our mailserver system to the end user's local ISP email system. The headers are as follows, with only the email addresses destroyed to as not to invite spam.
>
>Note that webervations.com (if I understand the subnets properly) seems to have a proper SPF record. It passed our checks. Also note that I am running Amavisd-new as a frontend in order to do some spam filtering before forwarding. I think this is the problem, but want to verify that in fact this should pass SPF checks. I'm suspecting that the parasun.com is not looking far enough back in the headers, therefore the failure. Or, am I all wet and this should in fact not pass?
>
>Note that my client's domain name (shown as gooddomainname.com below) does not have a SPF record, therefore is not a factor in record checking.
>
>----begin headers-------------
>
>Subject:
>Webervations Request !!
>From:
><goodemailaddress@webervations.com>
>Date:
>Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:27:24 -0600
>To:
><goodemailaddress@gooddomainname.com>
>Received:
>by orion.ew3d.com (Postfix) id D13991B80282; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:49 -0400 (EDT)
>Received:
>from orion.ew3d.com ([64.203.174.90]) by paloalto.server.parasun.com with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1PD5ep-00086j-Tj for goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
>Received:
>from [172.21.1.104] (helo=paloalto.server.parasun.com) by ex-relay00.server.parasun.com with ESMTP (eXpurgate 3.1.1) (envelope-from <reservations@webervations.com>) id 4ccf6900-028f-ac150168b018-1 for <goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com>; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
>Received:
>from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by orion.ew3d.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED2C1B8027F for <goodusername@orion.ew3d.com>; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:49 -0400 (EDT)
>Received:
>from mail pickup service by web1.webervations.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:27:24 -0500
>Received:
>from web1.webervations.com (unknown [66.179.210.36]) by orion.ew3d.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4995C1B801FC for <goodemailaddress@gooddomainname.com>; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:47 -0400 (EDT)
>Received:
>from orion.ew3d.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (orion.ew3d.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z6lWeVuihlxg for <goodusername@orion.ew3d.com>; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 21:21:49 -0400 (EDT)
>Received:
>from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=mail2.server.parasun.com) by mail2.server.parasun.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <goodemailaddress@webervations.com>) id 1PD5eq-0005xf-FA for goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
>Received:
>from bigip2.server.parasun.com ([172.21.0.4] helo=mailout7.server.parasun.com) by mail2.server.parasun.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <goodemailaddress@webervations.com>) id 1PD5eq-0005xa-E8 for goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
>Received:
>from bp1.parasun.com ([204.174.16.220] helo=paloalto.server.parasun.com) by mailout7.server.parasun.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <goodemailaddresss@webervations.com>) id 1PD5eq-0001qK-AZ for goodemailaddress@cablelynx.com; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:27:28 -0700
>Return-Path:
><goodemailaddress@webervations.com>
>Reply-To:
><goodemailaddress@bellsouth.net>
>Message-ID:
><ADWEB1QCIuTNPiHoH0s0006c791@web1.webervations.com>
>MIME-Version:
>1.0
>Content-Type:
>text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>7bit
>X-Mailer:
>Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0
>Thread-Index:
>Act6LRx5nDvmdweAS82xvDTl5lzrqQ==
>
>--
>John Hinton
>877-777-1407 ext 502
>http://www.ew3d.com
>Comprehensive Online Solutions
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------
>Sender Policy Framework: http://www.openspf.org [http://www.openspf.org]
>Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/ [http://www.listbox.com/member/]
>
>Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/1020/=now
>RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/1020/15739084-a04d3caa
>Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&
>Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?&&post_id=20101109144159:6B04B876-EC39-11DF-BE12-18B6F559ED1D
>Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com

-------------------------------------------
Sender Policy Framework: http://www.openspf.org [http://www.openspf.org]
Modify Your Subscription: http://www.listbox.com/member/ [http://www.listbox.com/member/]

Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/1020/=now
RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/1020/1311530-08394398
Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=1311530&id_secret=1311530-644bccd5
Unsubscribe Now: https://www.listbox.com/unsubscribe/?member_id=1311530&id_secret=1311530-512c0f9e&post_id=20101109151728:61B4BD8E-EC3E-11DF-8FE8-0E7CF559ED1D
Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com