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Need Help to create SPF record o my domain
Hi,

I have a domain Eg: example.com which has an IP address 174.100.x.x I have used your Wizard to create the SPF

the SPF created is example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all" but still emails are not being delivered correctly to certain domain

the sender address will be from info@example.com


can you please help me to set the correct SPF ?


Thanks
Techk





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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
> can you please help me to set the correct SPF ?

Not with the information you've given us, no.

> I have a domain Eg: example.com

You don't have the domain exmaple.com. Unless you tell us which domain you
do have, there's precious little we can do to see what's wrong with it.

> which has an IP address 174.100.x.x

Are you really sending from a /16 netblock? Your record below does not
reflect this.

If you're not sending from the whole of a /16 (64K addresses), you'll need
to tell us which IPs you *are* sending from before anyone can provide any
meaningful assistance.

> I have used your Wizard to create the SPF

The thing with the Wizard is that it only reflects what you tell it; give
it incorrect info (there are some subtle distinctions in there), and you
will get an erroneous record.

> the SPF created is example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all" but
> still emails are not being delivered correctly to certain domain

How are you attepmting to send them?

> the sender address will be from info@example.com

No it won't. You don't own example.com.

Vic.



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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
On 28-May-10, at 5:17 AM, Tech K wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a domain Eg: example.com which has an IP address
> 174.100.x.x I have used your Wizard to create the SPF
>
> the SPF created is example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all"
> but still emails are not being delivered correctly to certain domain
>
> the sender address will be from info@example.com
>
>
> can you please help me to set the correct SPF ?
>
>
> Thanks
> Techk


No, we can't help you if you obfuscate your real information. Provided
real information that we can work with.

Also, although it is a good idea to have an SPF policy, what makes you
think that adding one will help get your email delivered to those
domains you are having trouble with. You don't provide any evidence
that not having an SPF policy is the cause for your mail troubles.


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Pixel Point Studios
21 Chesham Drive
Toronto, ON M3M 1W6

416-247-7740



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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
Hi,

Hope you need all these details are required to guess the problem. I will give you clear scenario what is happening


I own a domain which leartclub.com and it is running on a server 174.37.103.245 and the email is configure for it through cpanel

in my domain hosting control panel DNS I have added the SPF like this leartclub.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all"

Please let me know if you need any other details. is anything wrong in the SPF I set ?


Thanks



________________________________
From: Vic <spf1@beer.org.uk>
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 4:23:51 PM
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Need Help to create SPF record o my domain


> can you please help me to set the correct SPF ?

Not with the information you've given us, no.

> I have a domain Eg: example.com

You don't have the domain exmaple.com. Unless you tell us which domain you
do have, there's precious little we can do to see what's wrong with it.

> which has an IP address 174.100.x.x

Are you really sending from a /16 netblock? Your record below does not
reflect this.

If you're not sending from the whole of a /16 (64K addresses), you'll need
to tell us which IPs you *are* sending from before anyone can provide any
meaningful assistance.

> I have used your Wizard to create the SPF

The thing with the Wizard is that it only reflects what you tell it; give
it incorrect info (there are some subtle distinctions in there), and you
will get an erroneous record.

> the SPF created is example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all" but
> still emails are not being delivered correctly to certain domain

How are you attepmting to send them?

> the sender address will be from info@example.com

No it won't. You don't own example.com.

Vic.



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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
I am getting the error while I am sending mail like the following

real info is the domain leartclub.com configured with the SPF record in the DNS as "v=spf1 a mx ~all" can you guess now ?

spf-test@openspf.org
SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<spf-test@openspf.org>:
host mailout02.controlledmail.com [72.81.252.18]:
550 5.7.1 <spf-test@openspf.org>: Recipient address rejected:
SPF Tests: Mail-From Result="none": Mail From="info@leartclub.com" HELO
name="cpanel.channelof.com" HELO Result="none" Remote IP="174.37.103.245"




________________________________
From: Gino Cerullo <gcerullo@pixelpointstudios.com>
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 5:10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Need Help to create SPF record o my domain

On 28-May-10, at 5:17 AM, Tech K wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a domain Eg: example.com which has an IP address 174.100.x.x I have used your Wizard to create the SPF
>
> the SPF created is example.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all" but still emails are not being delivered correctly to certain domain
>
> the sender address will be from info@example.com
>
>
> can you please help me to set the correct SPF ?
>
>
> Thanks
> Techk


No, we can't help you if you obfuscate your real information. Provided real information that we can work with.

Also, although it is a good idea to have an SPF policy, what makes you think that adding one will help get your email delivered to those domains you are having trouble with. You don't provide any evidence that not having an SPF policy is the cause for your mail troubles.


--
Gino Cerullo

Pixel Point Studios
21 Chesham Drive
Toronto, ON M3M 1W6

416-247-7740



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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
> I own a domain which leartclub.com

[vic@goliath ~]$ dig +short txt leartclub.com
"" "v=spf1" "a" "mx" "~all" ""

I don't think that's valid - however you're putting your record in, it
seems to have a load of spurious quotes in there.

> and it is running on a server 174.37.103.245

If it is going to stay on 174.37.103.245, then you can simplify the record :-

"v=spf1 ip4:174.37.103.245 ~all"

If you want to tie it to the A record, then use:

"v=spf1 a ~all"

Your A and MX records point to the same place, so mentioning them both is
wasteful.

> in my domain hosting control panel DNS I have added the SPF like this
> leartclub.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all"

That's the bit I'd go and look at; it appears that you are not setting the
record you think.

Once that is resolved, look at the actual bounce messages - are you
getting SPF rejections? You'll need to allow some time after changing your
record before it is seen worldwide (you've got a 1 day TTL, but some cheap
ISPs ignore your TTL andgenerate their own - often longer).

Vic.



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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
Thanks for the suggestion. I will try binding it to the IP address instead of mentioning both a and mx this time and let me see what happens.


yes I am getting SPF rejections this is the content in the rejection message


 message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  spf-test@openspf.org
    SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<spf-test@openspf.org>:
    host mailout02.controlledmail.com [72.81.252.18]:
    550 5.7.1 <spf-test@openspf.org>: Recipient address rejected:
    SPF Tests: Mail-From Result="none": Mail From="info@leartclub.com" HELO
name="cpanel.channelof.com" HELO Result="none" Remote IP="174.37.103.245"

Thanks
Techk




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From: Vic <spf1@beer.org.uk>
To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 2:05:18 PM
Subject: Re: [spf-help] Need Help to create SPF record o my domain


>  I own a domain which leartclub.com

[vic@goliath ~]$ dig +short txt leartclub.com
"" "v=spf1" "a" "mx" "~all" ""

I don't think that's valid - however you're putting your record in, it
seems to have a load of spurious quotes in there.

> and it is running on a server 174.37.103.245

If it is going to stay on 174.37.103.245, then you can simplify the record :-

"v=spf1 ip4:174.37.103.245 ~all"

If you want to tie it to the A record, then use:

"v=spf1 a ~all"

Your A and MX records point to the same place, so mentioning them both is
wasteful.

> in my domain hosting control panel DNS I have added the SPF like this
> leartclub.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all"

That's the bit I'd go and look at; it appears that you are not setting the
record you think.

Once that is resolved, look at the actual bounce messages - are you
getting SPF rejections? You'll need to allow some time after changing your
record before it is seen worldwide (you've got a 1 day TTL, but some cheap
ISPs ignore your TTL andgenerate their own - often longer).

Vic.



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Re: Need Help to create SPF record o my domain [ In reply to ]
At 12:32 29/05/2010 Saturday, Tech K wrote:
>Thanks for the suggestion. I will try binding it to the IP address instead of mentioning both a and mx this time and let me see what happens.

it wont work until you find/fix whatever is causing the software you use to break the record to read as
"" "v=spf1" "a" "mx" "~all" ""

my i suggest leaving out the " quotes at the start and end of the record so the software can add them itself {as i'm guessing it is trying to do BADLY}
and just type v=spf1 ip:174.37.103.245 ~all
incidentally the breakdown of the errors received are



>yes I am getting SPF rejections this is the content in the rejection message
>
>
> message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
> spf-test@openspf.org
> SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<spf-test@openspf.org>:
> host mailout02.controlledmail.com [72.81.252.18]:
> 550 5.7.1 <spf-test@openspf.org>: Recipient address rejected:
> SPF Tests: Mail-From Result="none": Mail From="info@leartclub.com"

test of your spf leartclub.com
result=none {result none should not cause a bounce though as none just means no SPF record found and they are optional}

>HELO
>name="cpanel.channelof.com" HELO Result="none"

test of your providers mail servers spf record cpanel.channelof.com
result=none {result none should not cause a bounce though as none just means no SPF record found and they are optional}
{though having a mailserver and no SPF is slightly worse as domains are often owned by non-techies and we expect some domains to be SPF non-believers,
but few people want to receive mail from a server operated by someone unaware of simple methods {like SPF} to make their server look like it might not be just another infected PC, and having an SPF for a HELO/EHLO is a zero false positive and cannot break forwarding/mailinglists/or any other SPF-unfriendly practice}
so fix your spf as above but also strongly encourage your provider to add one also for cpanel.channelof.com if you want receivers to perceive the server as well-run

>Remote IP="174.37.103.245"
>
>Thanks
>Techk
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Vic <spf1@beer.org.uk>
>To: spf-help@v2.listbox.com
>Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 2:05:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [spf-help] Need Help to create SPF record o my domain
>
>
>> I own a domain which leartclub.com
>
>[vic@goliath ~]$ dig +short txt leartclub.com
>"" "v=spf1" "a" "mx" "~all" ""
>
>I don't think that's valid - however you're putting your record in, it
>seems to have a load of spurious quotes in there.
>
>> and it is running on a server 174.37.103.245
>
>If it is going to stay on 174.37.103.245, then you can simplify the record :-
>
>"v=spf1 ip4:174.37.103.245 ~all"
>
>If you want to tie it to the A record, then use:
>
>"v=spf1 a ~all"
>
>Your A and MX records point to the same place, so mentioning them both is
>wasteful.
>
>> in my domain hosting control panel DNS I have added the SPF like this
>> leartclub.com IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ~all"
>
>That's the bit I'd go and look at; it appears that you are not setting the
>record you think.
>
>Once that is resolved, look at the actual bounce messages - are you
>getting SPF rejections? You'll need to allow some time after changing your
>record before it is seen worldwide (you've got a 1 day TTL, but some cheap
>ISPs ignore your TTL andgenerate their own - often longer).
>
>Vic.
>
>
>
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