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Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
I just installed Mail::SPF on an exim mail server and it seems to be working
quite well. (using socket from exim to spfd)

grep openspf /var/log/exim/maillog | wc -l
1404

(this is over about 1 hour of usage) and spot checking seems to working
correctly. (some examples below).

2006-12-12 21:21:54 H=(o2.pl) [122.4.21.154] rejected MAIL
<shawnbutterfillmywmnni@o2.pl>: Please see
http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=shawnbutterfillmywmnni%40o2.pl&ip=122.4.21.154&receiver=mx1
2006-12-12 21:22:05 H=fl-71-52-111-84.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [71.52.111.84]
rejected MAIL <henry@uol.com.br>: Please see
http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=henry%40uol.com.br&ip=71.52.111.84&receiver=mx1
2006-12-12 21:22:08 H=host150-9-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it
[87.24.9.150] rejected MAIL <music@eirkx.sceanicevoor.com>: Please see
http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=music%40eirkx.sceanicevoor.com&ip=87.24.9.150&receiver=mx1
2006-12-12 21:22:10 H=(another.com) [204.60.95.12] rejected MAIL
<yaxfygcen@another.com>: Please see
http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=yaxfygcen%40another.com&ip=204.60.95.12&receiver=mx1
2006-12-12 21:22:12 H=(C8D53675.poa.virtua.com.br) [200.213.54.117] rejected
MAIL <ndbsrouzl@gmx.net>: Please see
http://www.openspf.org/why.html?sender=ndbsrouzl%40gmx.net&ip=200.213.54.117&receiver=mx1


In the headers for example with no SPF record:
Received-SPF: none (exim.org: No applicable sender policy available)

In the headers for example with SPF record which passed:
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: 64.233.184.249 is authorized to use
'googlealerts-noreply@google.com' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism 'ptr'
matched))


Thanks
Craig

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Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
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Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote:
> Why is it that only Mail::SPF::Result::Fail implements
> authority_explanation() ? I'd expect it to be present in at least
> softfail and neutral too. Ideally pass would have it also.

See RFC 4408[1], 6.2:

| If check_host() results in a "Fail" due to a mechanism match (such as
| "-all"), and the "exp" modifier is present, then the explanation string
| returned is computed as described below.

Although it would have been nice being able to use the "exp" explanation
with result codes other than "Fail", it simply wasn't specified that way,
so you cannot assume that published authority explanations actually apply
to (i.e. make sense for) any other result codes.

References:
1. http://new.openspf.org/RFC_4408#mod-exp

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RE: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Mehnle [mailto:julian@mehnle.net]
> Sent: dinsdag 12 december 2006 1:51
> To: spf-devel@v2.listbox.com; Mark
> Subject: Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test!
>
>
> Julian Mehnle wrote:
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > the Module::Build devs are asking what Data::Dumper version
> > you have? And can you please try to build Mail::SPF again
> > (without your work-around) and, when it fails, send your
> > _build/build_params file directly to my address?

Hi Julian,

The oddest thing: with Mail-SPF-2.002, I cannot reproduce the error any
more. Seems to have just gone away. :)

- Mark

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Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
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Mark wrote:
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > the Module::Build devs are asking what Data::Dumper version
> > > you have? And can you please try to build Mail::SPF again
> > > (without your work-around) and, when it fails, send your
> > > _build/build_params file directly to my address?
>
> The oddest thing: with Mail-SPF-2.002, I cannot reproduce the error any
> more. Seems to have just gone away. :)

I'd still like to report back to the Module::Build developers what
Data::Dumper version you have. And did you keep the failing _build/
build_params file?

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RE: Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Mehnle [mailto:julian@mehnle.net]
> Sent: zaterdag 16 december 2006 12:44
> To: spf-devel@v2.listbox.com
> Subject: [spf-devel] Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please
> review and test!
>
>
> > > > the Module::Build devs are asking what Data::Dumper version
> > > > you have? And can you please try to build Mail::SPF again
> > > > (without your work-around) and, when it fails, send your
> > > > _build/build_params file directly to my address?
> >
> > The oddest thing: with Mail-SPF-2.002, I cannot reproduce
> > the error any more. Seems to have just gone away. :)
>
> I'd still like to report back to the Module::Build developers what
> Data::Dumper version you have. And did you keep the failing _build/
> build_params file?

My Data::Dumper version is: 2.121_08.

I do not have the build_params file any longer. Also, I downloaded earlier
versions of your Mail-SPF, but do not not give me the error either. If I
can trust my url history, I think I originally downloaded from
/Mail-SPF-2.000_003/ on CPAN. But that is no longer there.

- Mark

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Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
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Mark wrote:
> > I'd still like to report back to the Module::Build developers what
> > Data::Dumper version you have. And did you keep the failing _build/
> > build_params file?
>
> My Data::Dumper version is: 2.121_08.

Thanks, I'll forward that information to the M::B devs.

> I do not have the build_params file any longer. Also, I downloaded
> earlier versions of your Mail-SPF, but do not not give me the error
> either. If I can trust my url history, I think I originally downloaded
> from /Mail-SPF-2.000_003/ on CPAN. But that is no longer there.

I have sent you the 2.000_003 release directly. Please try to reproduce
the problem and send me the failing _build/build_params file.

TIA,
Julian.
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RE: Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Mehnle [mailto:julian@mehnle.net]
> Sent: zaterdag 16 december 2006 15:55
> To: Mark
> Subject: Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test!
>
> I'm attaching you the 2.000_003 release. Please try to reproduce the
> problem and send me the failing _build/build_params file.

Ok, this one gave me the error again. I attached the build_params file and
sent it to your address. Not exactly sure what good it will do, as your
current release has the problem fixed already; but hey, here it is.

N.B. Outlook renamed the file to "build_params.dat" for some reason; but
I'm sure you'll manage. :)

- Mark

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Re: Mail::SPF pre-release -- please review and test! [ In reply to ]
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Mark wrote:
> > I'm attaching you the 2.000_003 release. Please try to reproduce the
> > problem and send me the failing _build/build_params file.
>
> Ok, this one gave me the error again. I attached the build_params file
> and sent it to your address. Not exactly sure what good it will do, as
> your current release has the problem fixed already; but hey, here it is.

I did nothing in the 2.001 or 2.002 releases that could have fixed the
issue (perhaps with the exception of the package's version number no
longer containing an underscore, but that shouldn't affect Module::Build).

Thank you for reproducing the problem. I am forwarding the information to
the Module::Build developers in the hope that they can nail down the
problem.

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