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On Wednesday 26 November 2014 at 23:44:10 (EU time), Nick Edwards wrote:

> google reindl and his email address he copped nothing he has not
> dished out to others for years, now he plays innocent, thankfully
> google does not lie, or hide.

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Am 26.11.2014 um 23:44 schrieb Nick Edwards:
> google reindl and his email address he copped nothing he has not
> dished out to others for years, now he plays innocent, thankfully
> google does not lie, or hide.

did you pure asshole ever consider that i try to do my best to be more
nice as been in the past?

who are you that you refer to how acted here and there by beeing *much
more* abusive and personal than *i ever* was?

get a life!

> On 11/27/14, John Hardin <jhardin@impsec.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Anthony Cartmell wrote:
>>
>>>> How about you take your own advice. On any of my lists that diatribe
>>>> would

all people have to do is google you,

then they will know the truth about what nasty bit of work you really
are and how you attack people all the time, that and all those list
bannings and moderations should make them realize who they are really
dealing with.


On 11/27/14, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>
> Am 26.11.2014 um 23:42 schrieb Nick Edwards:
>> On 11/26/14, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> fedora list MODERATED
>>>>>
>>>>> not true for many months
>>>>>
>>>> oh because you "allegedly" unsubscribed
>>>
>>> bullshit - fedora devel active all the time
>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-November/thread.html
>>
>> dont mix words reindl im talking about fedora users and you bloody well
>> know it
>
> be precise or shut up *AND IN GENERAL* the past and other lists don#t
> matter *AT ALL* and so creep out of my sight at all
>
> what about stop acting like a child?
>
> * i did nothing wrong in my reply caused you again
> to start your vendetta
>
> * even if - you are *not* in the position of a judge - *period*
>
> * whatever you criticize i did *never* act in any way like
> a asshole as you do here *because* even if i don't find
> always nice enough words i *never* attack a person because
> of the person - *you do*
>
> so creep away and care about your own stuff
> what i do and say is *clearly* not your stuff - nowhere
>
> you are a nobody in context of playing judge
>
>
>

Am 26.11.2014 um 23:54 schrieb Nick Edwards:
> all people have to do is google you,
>
> then they will know the truth about what nasty bit of work you really
> are and how you attack people all the time, that and all those list
> bannings and moderations should make them realize who they are really
> dealing with.

you still don't get it:

if someone should google me the same applies to you:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.roundcube.user/4500

it is *not* your business to judge *here* hwat i did in say in the past
and somewhere else, especially as long *you* are the real abusive
asshole - and there is no nicer word than asshole for your attitude

when i answer somewhere not that nice i *always* discuss about facts
you are *always* attacking in a pure personal way

care about your own acting and life while leave others in peace

> On 11/27/14, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>
>> Am 26.11.2014 um 23:42 schrieb Nick Edwards:
>>> On 11/26/14, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> fedora list MODERATED
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not true for many months
>>>>>>
>>>>> oh because you "allegedly" unsubscribed
>>>>
>>>> bullshit - fedora devel active all the time
>>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-November/thread.html
>>>
>>> dont mix words reindl im talking about fedora users and you bloody well
>>> know it
>>
>> be precise or shut up *AND IN GENERAL* the past and other lists don#t
>> matter *AT ALL* and so creep out of my sight at all
>>
>> what about stop acting like a child?
>>
>> * i did nothing wrong in my reply caused you again
>> to start your vendetta
>>
>> * even if - you are *not* in the position of a judge - *period*
>>
>> * whatever you criticize i did *never* act in any way like
>> a asshole as you do here *because* even if i don't find
>> always nice enough words i *never* attack a person because
>> of the person - *you do*
>>
>> so creep away and care about your own stuff
>> what i do and say is *clearly* not your stuff - nowhere
>>
>> you are a nobody in context of playing judge

Holy crap. You're adults, this is a professional list. Start acting like
adults and if you want to continue this pissing match, take this off list.
You're cluttering my inbox, and this is beyond rude to those on the list.

For being anti-spam it sure feels like I'm being sent some right now.
On Nov 26, 2014 6:01 PM, "Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:

>
> Am 26.11.2014 um 23:54 schrieb Nick Edwards:
>
>> all people have to do is google you,
>>
>> then they will know the truth about what nasty bit of work you really
>> are and how you attack people all the time, that and all those list
>> bannings and moderations should make them realize who they are really
>> dealing with.
>>
>
> you still don't get it:
>
> if someone should google me the same applies to you:
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.roundcube.user/4500
>
> it is *not* your business to judge *here* hwat i did in say in the past
> and somewhere else, especially as long *you* are the real abusive asshole -
> and there is no nicer word than asshole for your attitude
>
> when i answer somewhere not that nice i *always* discuss about facts
> you are *always* attacking in a pure personal way
>
> care about your own acting and life while leave others in peace
>
> On 11/27/14, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.11.2014 um 23:42 schrieb Nick Edwards:
>>>
>>>> On 11/26/14, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@thelounge.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> fedora list MODERATED
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> not true for many months
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh because you "allegedly" unsubscribed
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bullshit - fedora devel active all the time
>>>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-
>>>>> November/thread.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> dont mix words reindl im talking about fedora users and you bloody well
>>>> know it
>>>>
>>>
>>> be precise or shut up *AND IN GENERAL* the past and other lists don#t
>>> matter *AT ALL* and so creep out of my sight at all
>>>
>>> what about stop acting like a child?
>>>
>>> * i did nothing wrong in my reply caused you again
>>> to start your vendetta
>>>
>>> * even if - you are *not* in the position of a judge - *period*
>>>
>>> * whatever you criticize i did *never* act in any way like
>>> a asshole as you do here *because* even if i don't find
>>> always nice enough words i *never* attack a person because
>>> of the person - *you do*
>>>
>>> so creep away and care about your own stuff
>>> what i do and say is *clearly* not your stuff - nowhere
>>>
>>> you are a nobody in context of playing judge
>>>
>>
>

On Wed, 26 Nov 2014, Reindl Harald wrote:

> Am 26.11.2014 um 23:44 schrieb Nick Edwards:
>> google reindl and his email address he copped nothing he has not
>> dished out to others for years, now he plays innocent, thankfully
>> google does not lie, or hide.
>
> did you pure asshole ever consider that i try to do my best to be more nice
> as been in the past?

Take it private or you'll get yourself banned too.

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On 2016-08-18 17:08, Antony Stone wrote:

>> or in every list msg's headers .-)

> Indeed:

squirrelmail have it, i still miss it in roundcube, horde hmm ?,
thunderbird have it as a plugin, microsoft and apple dont give a damm
about it :=)

pick your own battles

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The Internet is an intelligence test. You just failed.

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> True that, but it's not entirely obvious how to view the message headers in many of today's mail clients. Of course, if you're on this list, you'd think you'd understand where to find them...

My MUA recognizes them and exposes them to the user as a link:

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And if I subscribed 2 years ago, do you honestly think I remember how I
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Actually, they don't. Most mailing lists I subscribe to contain an
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I don't. I'm just playing the other side here. Techies like us tend to
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I would never send an unsubscribe to a list because I know it's bad
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The technology world has changed. Many people are used to graphical
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>On 4/5/2017 11:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
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>And if I subscribed 2 years ago, do you honestly think I remember how I
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>> * every mailing list on this planet works the same way
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>Actually, they don't. Most mailing lists I subscribe to contain an
>unsubscribe link at the bottom of the message.
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>> common sense: how and why do you imagine that 1000, 2000 or how much
>> subscribers a list has handle your request?
>
>I don't. I'm just playing the other side here. Techies like us tend to
>be unfriendly about the way we communicate. We also expect people to
>just know stuff. But for people who are doing multiple jobs, and who
>isn't these days, the people who "just know" stuff are fewer.
>
>I would never send an unsubscribe to a list because I know it's bad
>etiquette, just like I know that typing in all caps is "shouting". But
>people do it all the time without meaning to offend anyone.
>
>The technology world has changed. Many people are used to graphical
>interfaces and haven't the slightest idea how to run anything from the
>command line. Many of them have never seen a message header, let alone
>could read it. I know there should be a higher expectation on this list.
>But would it be so bad to add a footer that says how to unsubscribe?
>
>It would be more friendly. And it would help people not offend others.
>
>Just saying...

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> On 2020-12-23 16:22, Richard Ozer wrote:
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> Hm, strange - I thought it was (quoting from the headers of any email on this
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