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Why does SA add SPF check fail to this message?
All messages from the FreeBSD mailing list are labeled as 'SPF check fail'.

Here is the message:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=224393

People said that SA does this by mistake:
https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255356

Is it a mistake? A bug in SA? Or can something be done to fix this?


Thanks,

Yuri
Re: Why does SA add SPF check fail to this message? [ In reply to ]
On Saturday 24 April 2021 at 12:22:15, Yuri wrote:

> All messages from the FreeBSD mailing list are labeled as 'SPF check fail'.

I would firstly observe that you (or whomever runs mail0.{redacted}.com) are
running SpamAssassin version 3.3.1 (eleven years old now), so therefore i
wonder how up-to-date your rulesets are.

I also agree with Mr Paeps' observation that 1.0 for an SPF fail, even if
incorrect, is making very little difference compared to the 8.4 you're getting
from the Chickenpox tests.

Are you aware of any other subscribers to the FreeBSD list with more current
releases of SA encountering the same problem?

> Here is the message:
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=224393
>
> People said that SA does this by mistake:
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255356
>
> Is it a mistake? A bug in SA? Or can something be done to fix this?

Regards,


Antony.

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Re: Why does SA add SPF check fail to this message? [ In reply to ]
Replied to Yuri directly,

This could result of not having internal_networks set.

mail2.{redacted} considers mail1.{redacted} to be an external server - thus
checking the SPF record for freebsd.org against the IP address of
mail1.{redacted}

Paul

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 11:45, Antony Stone <
Antony.Stone@spamassassin.open.source.it> wrote:

> On Saturday 24 April 2021 at 12:22:15, Yuri wrote:
>
> > All messages from the FreeBSD mailing list are labeled as 'SPF check
> fail'.
>
> I would firstly observe that you (or whomever runs mail0.{redacted}.com)
> are
> running SpamAssassin version 3.3.1 (eleven years old now), so therefore i
> wonder how up-to-date your rulesets are.
>
> I also agree with Mr Paeps' observation that 1.0 for an SPF fail, even if
> incorrect, is making very little difference compared to the 8.4 you're
> getting
> from the Chickenpox tests.
>
> Are you aware of any other subscribers to the FreeBSD list with more
> current
> releases of SA encountering the same problem?
>
> > Here is the message:
> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=224393
> >
> > People said that SA does this by mistake:
> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255356
> >
> > Is it a mistake? A bug in SA? Or can something be done to fix this?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Antony.
>
> --
> You can spend the whole of your life trying to be popular,
> but at the end of the day the size of the crowd at your funeral
> will be largely dictated by the weather.
>
> - Frank Skinner
>
> Please reply to the
> list;
> please *don't* CC
> me.
>
Re: Why does SA add SPF check fail to this message? [ In reply to ]
Headers of original mail, for reference :

Received: from mail0.{redacted}.com (mail0.{redacted}.com [198.144.192.41])
by mail1.{redacted}.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id 13MHIACI036176
for <yuri@mail1.{redacted}.com>; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from owner-ports-committers@freebsd.org)
Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [96.47.72.81])
by mail0.{redacted}.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 13MHI4Un080645
(version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL)
for <yuri+freebsd@{redacted}.com>; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from owner-ports-committers@freebsd.org)

On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 11:48, Paul Stead <paul.stead@gmail.com> wrote:

> Replied to Yuri directly,
>
> This could result of not having internal_networks set.
>
> mail2.{redacted} considers mail1.{redacted} to be an external server -
> thus checking the SPF record for freebsd.org against the IP address of
> mail1.{redacted}
>
> Paul
>
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2021 at 11:45, Antony Stone <
> Antony.Stone@spamassassin.open.source.it> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 24 April 2021 at 12:22:15, Yuri wrote:
>>
>> > All messages from the FreeBSD mailing list are labeled as 'SPF check
>> fail'.
>>
>> I would firstly observe that you (or whomever runs mail0.{redacted}.com)
>> are
>> running SpamAssassin version 3.3.1 (eleven years old now), so therefore i
>> wonder how up-to-date your rulesets are.
>>
>> I also agree with Mr Paeps' observation that 1.0 for an SPF fail, even if
>> incorrect, is making very little difference compared to the 8.4 you're
>> getting
>> from the Chickenpox tests.
>>
>> Are you aware of any other subscribers to the FreeBSD list with more
>> current
>> releases of SA encountering the same problem?
>>
>> > Here is the message:
>> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=224393
>> >
>> > People said that SA does this by mistake:
>> > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255356
>> >
>> > Is it a mistake? A bug in SA? Or can something be done to fix this?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Antony.
>>
>> --
>> You can spend the whole of your life trying to be popular,
>> but at the end of the day the size of the crowd at your funeral
>> will be largely dictated by the weather.
>>
>> - Frank Skinner
>>
>> Please reply to the
>> list;
>> please *don't*
>> CC me.
>>
>
Re: Why does SA add SPF check fail to this message? [ In reply to ]
On 24.04.21 03:22, Yuri wrote:
>All messages from the FreeBSD mailing list are labeled as 'SPF check fail'.
>
>Here is the message:
>https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=224393

it's the encapsulated message, but the first header from included message:

Received: from mail0.{redacted}.com (mail0.{redacted}.com [198.144.192.41])
by mail1.{redacted}.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id 13MHIACI036176
for <yuri@mail1.{redacted}.com>; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 10:18:10 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from owner-ports-committers@freebsd.org)

is 198.144.192.41 in your trusted_networks and internal_networks?

>People said that SA does this by mistake:
>https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255356
>
>Is it a mistake? A bug in SA? Or can something be done to fix this?
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Re: Why does SA add SPF check fail to this message? [ In reply to ]
On Sat, 2021-04-24 at 03:22 -0700, Yuri wrote:
> All messages from the FreeBSD mailing list are labeled as 'SPF check
> fail'.
>
> Here is the message:
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=224393
>
> People said that SA does this by mistake:
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=255356
>
> Is it a mistake? A bug in SA? Or can something be done to fix this?
>
There's no SPF record for bugs.freebsd.org though there is for
freebsd.org

But don't just take my word for it check it yourself with
https://www.kitterman.com/spf/validate.html

Martin