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Outchannel support
Hi,

I am implementing a tracing mechanism and the outchannel features comes handy to add Logrotate.
However, it is mentioned in the following link that it is a to-be removed feature, at least as far as the config syntax is concerned.

https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v6compatibility.html

Could someone please comment is it planned for disabling or being considered with a different syntax?

Thanks,
Vivek

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Re: Outchannel support [ In reply to ]
since that was written, we have shifted to a model of trying _really_ hard not
to break existing configs.

So it is very unlikely that the existing config syntax will ever be removed.

If you are adding new features, add them to the new syntax, not the old syntax.

David Lang

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, Vivek Kumar via rsyslog wrote:

> I am implementing a tracing mechanism and the outchannel features comes handy to add Logrotate.
> However, it is mentioned in the following link that it is a to-be removed feature, at least as far as the config syntax is concerned.
>
> https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v6compatibility.html
>
> Could someone please comment is it planned for disabling or being considered with a different syntax?
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Re: Outchannel support [ In reply to ]
Hello!

I asked Reiner a while ago regarding this and he told me he is not going to
remove this..
Though there is no decision on any new syntax for this.. I'd be happy with
some "omfile" options to configure a size limit and number of archives to
keep. That's more than enough for most of us I guess.. well.. maybe
compression program as well.. and encryption... and upload to s3/azure blob
store/hdfs/whatever else.. endless story I'd say :-D

I guess this is why it's in the current state.

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 14:40, Vivek Kumar via rsyslog <
rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am implementing a tracing mechanism and the outchannel features comes
> handy to add Logrotate.
> However, it is mentioned in the following link that it is a to-be removed
> feature, at least as far as the config syntax is concerned.
>
> https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v6compatibility.html
>
> Could someone please comment is it planned for disabling or being
> considered with a different syntax?
>
> Thanks,
> Vivek
>
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Re: Outchannel support [ In reply to ]
time/size rotation, and then the ability to call an external script to do
something with the rotated file after rsyslog knows it's done writing to it
(better than logrotate that only knows it sent a signal to an app, doesn't know
if the app has processed the signal yet). I would even let the fine count limit
be done in the script, but I could see arguments for doing it in omfile.

actually, time based actions may be better done as a core item. There are also
requests for time based rebind across all the different modules, so that may
belong more core rather than each module reinventing the wheel in slightly
different ways.

David Lang

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, Yuri Bushmelev via rsyslog wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I asked Reiner a while ago regarding this and he told me he is not going to
> remove this..
> Though there is no decision on any new syntax for this.. I'd be happy with
> some "omfile" options to configure a size limit and number of archives to
> keep. That's more than enough for most of us I guess.. well.. maybe
> compression program as well.. and encryption... and upload to s3/azure blob
> store/hdfs/whatever else.. endless story I'd say :-D
>
> I guess this is why it's in the current state.
>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 14:40, Vivek Kumar via rsyslog <
> rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am implementing a tracing mechanism and the outchannel features comes
>> handy to add Logrotate.
>> However, it is mentioned in the following link that it is a to-be removed
>> feature, at least as far as the config syntax is concerned.
>>
>> https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v6compatibility.html
>>
>> Could someone please comment is it planned for disabling or being
>> considered with a different syntax?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vivek
>>
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Re: [External] : Re: Outchannel support [ In reply to ]
Hi Yuri, David, all

Is there any document which comments on the future support of outchannel feature? If not, will there be any new comment on support of this feature in the upcoming document?

The statement "Outchannels are a to-be-removed feature of rsyslog, at least as far as the config syntax is concerned. Nevertheless, v6 still supports it, but a new syntax is required for the action" in https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v6compatibility.html creates ambiguity on the support as of today.

Thanks,
Vivek


?On 23/11/21, 3:25 PM, "rsyslog on behalf of David Lang via rsyslog" <rsyslog-bounces@lists.adiscon.com on behalf of rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com> wrote:

time/size rotation, and then the ability to call an external script to do
something with the rotated file after rsyslog knows it's done writing to it
(better than logrotate that only knows it sent a signal to an app, doesn't know
if the app has processed the signal yet). I would even let the fine count limit
be done in the script, but I could see arguments for doing it in omfile.

actually, time based actions may be better done as a core item. There are also
requests for time based rebind across all the different modules, so that may
belong more core rather than each module reinventing the wheel in slightly
different ways.

David Lang

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, Yuri Bushmelev via rsyslog wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I asked Reiner a while ago regarding this and he told me he is not going to
> remove this..
> Though there is no decision on any new syntax for this.. I'd be happy with
> some "omfile" options to configure a size limit and number of archives to
> keep. That's more than enough for most of us I guess.. well.. maybe
> compression program as well.. and encryption... and upload to s3/azure blob
> store/hdfs/whatever else.. endless story I'd say :-D
>
> I guess this is why it's in the current state.
>
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 14:40, Vivek Kumar via rsyslog <
> rsyslog@lists.adiscon.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am implementing a tracing mechanism and the outchannel features comes
>> handy to add Logrotate.
>> However, it is mentioned in the following link that it is a to-be removed
>> feature, at least as far as the config syntax is concerned.
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rsyslog.com/doc/v8-stable/compatibility/v6compatibility.html__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!fk-mn6EZvtSrJFvNILAeWSGkFsICTTSoNWMm7WhYqGEfsZljI7J1u98J3blWcO2prWo$
>>
>> Could someone please comment is it planned for disabling or being
>> considered with a different syntax?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vivek
>>
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