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If you haven't defined CVSROOT then CVS won't know where to create CVS objects, n'est-ce pas?

Until you define it, CVS can't work.? Google your error message.

CVSROOT is usually set in a bash profile (or whatever login initialization script is used by your chosen OS.)

Remember, the environment variable has to be set for the process actually running CVS. If you are running CVS from a user login, that's quite likely got different environment configuration than when you're running it out of cron or some other job scheduler.

--Charlie

From: Rancid-discuss <rancid-discuss-bounces@www.shrubbery.net> on behalf of Tim McIntire <Tim.McIntire@infinite.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:45 AM
To: Rancid-discuss@www.shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] no CVS directory created for new groups
?

Hi,
?
I recently migrated to rancid 3.9.? I created 3 groups initially and it is all working fine, but when I added two more, I was not getting any emails for the changes.? I tested email to the alias, that is working.? Looked through the archives and it? appears to be related to not running rancid-cvs after adding the group to rancid.conf.??? I can run rancid-run and it created the var/GROUP/configs dir and saves the config, but it is not keeping track of differences.? When I run
?
cvs? log -bSh router.db
?
I get
?
cvs log: No CVSROOT specified!? Please use the `-d' option
cvs [log aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable.
?
I ran
?
rancid-cvs -V -f /opt/rancid/etc/rancid.conf
?
but it is still not creating the GROUP in /opt/rancid/var/CVS.
?
Any suggestions?
?
Thanks..
?
Tim

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Understood, but CVSROOT is defined in the rancid.conf file and is working just fine for the original 3 groups that I created when I configured the new rancid server.

In both cases, I was running this as the rancid user.

Got it to work.. here is what I did:
Removed the broken GROUP entries from the rancid.conf file
Ran /opt/rancid/bin/rancid-cvs
renamed the broken GROUP directories in /opt/rancid/var/
added the GROUP entries back into the rancid.conf file.
Ran /opt/rancid/bin/rancid-cvs again.. this time I saw it create the directories in the CVS dir.
Copied the router.db file back over to the GROUP dir

When I ran rancid-run, I got the email with the config updates.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles T. Brooks [mailto:Charles.Brooks@hbcs.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:05 AM
To: Tim McIntire <Tim.McIntire@infinite.com>; Rancid-discuss@www.shrubbery.net
Subject: Re: no CVS directory created for new groups

If you haven't defined CVSROOT then CVS won't know where to create CVS objects, n'est-ce pas?

Until you define it, CVS can't work.? Google your error message.

CVSROOT is usually set in a bash profile (or whatever login initialization script is used by your chosen OS.)

Remember, the environment variable has to be set for the process actually running CVS. If you are running CVS from a user login, that's quite likely got different environment configuration than when you're running it out of cron or some other job scheduler.

--Charlie

From: Rancid-discuss <rancid-discuss-bounces@www.shrubbery.net> on behalf of Tim McIntire <Tim.McIntire@infinite.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:45 AM
To: Rancid-discuss@www.shrubbery.net
Subject: [rancid] no CVS directory created for new groups
?

Hi,
?
I recently migrated to rancid 3.9.? I created 3 groups initially and it is all working fine, but when I added two more, I was not getting any emails for the changes.? I tested email to the alias, that is working.? Looked through the archives and it? appears to be related to not running rancid-cvs after adding the group to rancid.conf.??? I can run rancid-run and it created the var/GROUP/configs dir and saves the config, but it is not keeping track of differences.? When I run
?
cvs? log -bSh router.db
?
I get
?
cvs log: No CVSROOT specified!? Please use the `-d' option cvs [log aborted]: or set the CVSROOT environment variable.
?
I ran
?
rancid-cvs -V -f /opt/rancid/etc/rancid.conf
?
but it is still not creating the GROUP in /opt/rancid/var/CVS.
?
Any suggestions?
?
Thanks..
?
Tim

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Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 02:05:00PM +0000, Charles T. Brooks:
> If you haven't defined CVSROOT then CVS won't know where to create CVS objects, n'est-ce pas?
>
> Until you define it, CVS can't work.? Google your error message.
>
> CVSROOT is usually set in a bash profile (or whatever login initialization script is used by your chosen OS.)

For rancid, CVSROOT is set in rancid.conf. Please see the comments about
this in that file. But, CVSROOT in one's environment is only needed when
outside of an established repository, or it can be specified on the cmd-line
with the -d option. Once within one, it would be read from the file CVS/Root
(iirc), unless overridden by the env variable or cmd-line.

The scripts that need it, will read rancid.conf from the default location
or as specified on the cmd-line. An interactive user using bourne shell
can include it in their env by running ". /path/to/rancid.conf"

I suspect that Tim's problem is that the new groups are not in
rancid.conf:LIST_OF_GROUPS nor specified on the cmd-line and therefore were
not processed by rancid-cvs.

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