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IDLE: New Feature?
Where would the conversation have to happen to get the forces-that-be to
install a pull-down/history menu for the Find option in IDLE? To have to
retype the search option over and over when I am toggling between two or
more searches gets tiresome. I would rather spend my brain cells and
bandwidth thinking about coding.

Steve
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99 bugs in the code.
Take one down and patch it all around.
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Re: IDLE: New Feature? [ In reply to ]
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 9:40 AM Steve <Gronicus@sga.ninja> wrote:
>
> Where would the conversation have to happen to get the forces-that-be to
> install a pull-down/history menu for the Find option in IDLE? To have to
> retype the search option over and over when I am toggling between two or
> more searches gets tiresome. I would rather spend my brain cells and
> bandwidth thinking about coding.
>

You could raise that on python-ideas, but if you want to put some
effort into making it really really easy for Terry, you could try
implementing it - or at least the beginnings of it - as a pull
request. Idle is written in Python, so you can tinker with it without
writing any C code.

ChrisA
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Re: IDLE: New Feature? [ In reply to ]
On 8/9/2020 7:39 PM, Steve wrote:
> Where would the conversation have to happen to get the forces-that-be to
> install a pull-down/history menu for the Find option in IDLE? To have to
> retype the search option over and over when I am toggling between two or
> more searches gets tiresome. I would rather spend my brain cells and
> bandwidth thinking about coding.
The IDLE-dev mail list
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
may or may not be active at any time.

Simplest specification:
one list for all 3 search boxes;
start fresh each session

If search boxes were non-modal, it might work to have two open for same
editor (not sure).

> Footnote:
> There's 99 bugs in the code, in the code.
> 99 bugs in the code.
> Take one down and patch it all around.
> Now there's 117 bugs in the code.

Argh! I sometimes find a bug fixing a bug, but more often think of
multiple possible improvement when implementing one.

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RE: IDLE: New Feature? [ In reply to ]
<< Simplest specification:
<< one list for all 3 search boxes;
<< start fresh each session

I do not understand what this means...



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is when it is spelled "incorrectly".

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Subject: Re: IDLE: New Feature?

On 8/9/2020 7:39 PM, Steve wrote:
> Where would the conversation have to happen to get the forces-that-be
> to install a pull-down/history menu for the Find option in IDLE? To
> have to retype the search option over and over when I am toggling
> between two or more searches gets tiresome. I would rather spend my
> brain cells and bandwidth thinking about coding.
The IDLE-dev mail list
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/idle-dev
may or may not be active at any time.

Simplest specification:
one list for all 3 search boxes;
start fresh each session

If search boxes were non-modal, it might work to have two open for same
editor (not sure).

> Footnote:
> There's 99 bugs in the code, in the code.
> 99 bugs in the code.
> Take one down and patch it all around.
> Now there's 117 bugs in the code.

Argh! I sometimes find a bug fixing a bug, but more often think of multiple
possible improvement when implementing one.

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Re: IDLE: New Feature? [ In reply to ]
On 8/11/2020 4:26 AM, Steve wrote:
> << Simplest specification:
> << one list for all 3 search boxes;
> << start fresh each session
>
> I do not understand what this means...

A proposed feature needs a specification with sufficient details to code
and review. Your proposal "a pull-down history list for Find' is too
general." This is typical of proposals, especially for IDLE it seems.

Should there be a list only for Find and not for Find/Replace and Find
in Files? Makes no sense. A separate list for each? What if you start
with Find and then realize you want to replace? Or find in the current
file and realize that you want to find in multiple files. I would want
one list so I could transfer search terms. (Another solution would be
to link the boxes so one can transfer directly.)

How long is history kept? Forever across sessions, or just for one
session? The latter is much easier.

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