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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 13:29:42 +0100, Nicholas Clark <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 03:52:41PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> > On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 03:08:08 +0200, Perl 5 commit summary
> > <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Remove Configure hints for the old AT&T 3b1.
> > > Andy Dougherty 5 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 116 deletions
> > > http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/commit/7b0e9f133bcaadc6
> >
> > Does AIX-3 also fall in the chainsaw possibilities?
>
> Aside from 353 lines of self contained hints file:
>
> $ wc -l hints/aix_3.sh
> 353 hints/aix_3.sh
>
> is there anything else that killing AIX-3 simplifies?

No, same for AIX-4: when I split them off, I made sure they were safe
as they were. Just the fact that I am about absolutely sure that
perl5.18 will not build on AIX-3 (and probably also not without a lot
of manual interventions on AIX-4) made me ask the question.

> I'm curious
>
> 1) How long ago was its End Of Life?

The oldest smoke I could find for AIX from me was
Automated smoke report for 5.8.2 patch 21643 on aix - 4.3.3.0 (aix/1 cpu)
(i2) using gcc version 3.3.2

I do not have any software remains from our AIX-3.1.5, so I cannot check
"IBM Software support lifecycle" doesn't even mention AIX 4

AIX 5L for POWER 5.3.x (5765-G03) was available till 13-Aug-2004 and
has 30-Apr-2012 shown as EOL. (Our customer has NO plans to update,
upgrade or move to a better OS, so we're stuck with that for a while)

> 2) Did it ever have an ANSI C compiler?

Yes, xlc/vac was available (and expensive)
Yes, I had gcc built on it

> (Google suggests that the answer to the second question is "yes", in that
> there are references to GCC version triples such as powerpc-ibm-aix3.2.5 and
> rs6000-ibm-aix3.2.5)

--
H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.19 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

On Monday September 9 2013 4:16:43 PM H.Merijn Brand wrote:
> I do not have any software remains from our AIX-3.1.5, so I cannot check
> "IBM Software support lifecycle" doesn't even mention AIX 4
>
> AIX 5L for POWER 5.3.x (5765-G03) was available till 13-Aug-2004 and
> has 30-Apr-2012 shown as EOL. (Our customer has NO plans to update,
> upgrade or move to a better OS, so we're stuck with that for a while)

I remember AIX 4.3.3 going end-of-life. I never worked on AIX 3. So it's
easy to confirm these are dead as far as IBM is concerned. Whether that's
dead as far as perl, or Merijn's employer, is concerned is not my call, of
course.

I would argue that AIX 3 support could be terminated without further
discussion. The likelihood that someone cares about modern perl on such
ancient hardware and software seems particularly remote to me - if someone has
such a machine, it's in a back closet continuing to run reports on via cron or
something without anyone present having logged in in years.

AIX 4 support could go through a normal warning cycle (announce in 5.20 that
it may not even work and will be removed in 5.22), giving someone a chance to
pick it up, however unlikely. Without anyone actually testing/compiling
there, it's highly likely that AIX 4 will not compile current perl, either.

AIX 5L (which, IIRC, means "5.1") seems to have someone still somewhat
interested. I can understand your customer not wanting to move if they don't
have to, those boxes aren't what I'd call cheap, and I can't imagine they're
unique in this regard, even if they may not be exactly common. (Even when AIX
4 went end-of-life, I also remember supporting our product on it for quite
some time afterward, so I feel your pain :) )

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:14:12AM +0200, Perl 5 commit summary wrote:
> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday
>
> Current branch blead
> 54 commits. 12 unique authors. 9 unique committers.
> 149 files changed, 23883 insertions(+), 53051 deletions(-)
> Net code removal: Karl Williamson (29383 lines)
> Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker (60 lines)
> Jarkko Hietaniemi (6 lines)

Karl is the winner.

> Thanks, applied: Matthew Horsfall (alh) (3) Karl Williamson (2)
> James E Keenan (1) Jarkko Hietaniemi (1)

That one doesn't fit on one line. Cool.


Nicholas Clark

On 06/18/2014 01:37 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:14:12AM +0200, Perl 5 commit summary wrote:
>> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday
>>
>> Current branch blead
>> 54 commits. 12 unique authors. 9 unique committers.
>> 149 files changed, 23883 insertions(+), 53051 deletions(-)
>> Net code removal: Karl Williamson (29383 lines)
>> Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker (60 lines)
>> Jarkko Hietaniemi (6 lines)
>
> Karl is the winner.
>

But note that I'm getting the credit for Unicode's work in compacting
their files. I just did the commit to Perl of that.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:26:55AM -0600, Karl Williamson wrote:
> On 06/18/2014 01:37 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:14:12AM +0200, Perl 5 commit summary wrote:
> >> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday
> >>
> >> Current branch blead
> >> 54 commits. 12 unique authors. 9 unique committers.
> >> 149 files changed, 23883 insertions(+), 53051 deletions(-)
> >> Net code removal: Karl Williamson (29383 lines)
> >> Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker (60 lines)
> >> Jarkko Hietaniemi (6 lines)
> >
> > Karl is the winner.
> >
>
> But note that I'm getting the credit for Unicode's work in compacting
> their files. I just did the commit to Perl of that.

You are too modest. In that, you "just" get to do that commit because you've
also "just" done a heck of a lot of work over the past few years getting the
entire Unicode support into much better shape than it's ever been before.

Thanks, and I hope that you're able and willing to keep doing this for a
while yet.

Presumably, at some point the Unicode Consortium run out of characters to add?
:-)

Nicholas Clark

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 20:00:44 +0100, Nicholas Clark <nick@ccl4.org>
wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:26:55AM -0600, Karl Williamson wrote:
> > On 06/18/2014 01:37 AM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 03:14:12AM +0200, Perl 5 commit summary wrote:
> > >> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Saturday
> > >>
> > >> Current branch blead
> > >> 54 commits. 12 unique authors. 9 unique committers.
> > >> 149 files changed, 23883 insertions(+), 53051 deletions(-)
> > >> Net code removal: Karl Williamson (29383 lines)
> > >> Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker (60 lines)
> > >> Jarkko Hietaniemi (6 lines)
> > >
> > > Karl is the winner.
> > >
> >
> > But note that I'm getting the credit for Unicode's work in compacting
> > their files. I just did the commit to Perl of that.
>
> You are too modest. In that, you "just" get to do that commit because you've
> also "just" done a heck of a lot of work over the past few years getting the
> entire Unicode support into much better shape than it's ever been before.
>
> Thanks, and I hope that you're able and willing to keep doing this for a
> while yet.

What he said!
Karl++

> Presumably, at some point the Unicode Consortium run out of characters to add?
> :-)
>
> Nicholas Clark


--
H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/
using perl5.00307 .. 5.19 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE
http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/
http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/

On 06/18/2014 01:00 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> Presumably, at some point the Unicode Consortium run out of characters to add?

Unicode 7.0 introduced 2834 characters, leaving 861,509 unassigned out
of 1,114,112. That means that in 20+ years they've filled up just under
23% of what is available. And the rate of addition is going down, as
there is very little left of unassigned characters that are in modern
use. We're getting down to the specialist language historian things left.

It appears to me that there are about 6000 characters nearly ready to be
encoded, almost all of them obscure East Asian ideographs. After that
there is little in the pipeline
http://www.unicode.org/alloc/Pipeline.html

There is little funding available for linguists (which I think why my
daughter went for a software company job, so far), so I think the
encoding of these historic languages will be very slow. Mayan is an
example.

But if some new thing, like emoji turned out to be, comes along where
there is money available, I could be proven very wrong

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Craig A. Berry <craig.a.berry@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:08 PM Perl 5 commit summary <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:
>>
>> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday
>>
>> No activity.
>
> How hard would it be to point this at the GitHub repository so that
> it's up-to-date? There has definitely been activity since Wednesday.

I've not gotten around to asking about it though it's on my radar. I assume Nick Clark just needs to point to the new URL?

Todd

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 01:11:25PM -0500, Todd Rinaldo wrote:
>
> > On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Craig A. Berry <craig.a.berry@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:08 PM Perl 5 commit summary <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday
> >>
> >> No activity.
> >
> > How hard would it be to point this at the GitHub repository so that
> > it's up-to-date? There has definitely been activity since Wednesday.
>
> I've not gotten around to asking about it though it's on my radar. I assume Nick Clark just needs to point to the new URL?

It's not quite that trivial. However, the code already had a "github" mode,
which generates different tarball URLs in their format, and that's now set
up for the new canonical URL. I put it live in the crontab on the new
dromedary almost a week ago, but when testing I know that the first update it
generated was about 5M, because it (strictly correctly) figures that all the
maint-5.004 re-import is made of new commits, and wants to report all of
that activity, and a bunch of other one-off stuff caused by the
migration. Hence I assume that the list manager software quite reasonably
decided to drop the message on the floor.

If it's all working then it should arrive tomorrow morning. The test
summary cronjob (which runs 24 hours earlier) mailed me correctly today.

However, the old summary will continue to run, as I no longer have access
to *that* host to disable it. (need to bounce through perl5.git.perl.org,
which now refuses access, which is fair enough). So that will continue to
claim nothing is happening until either

1) the cron host is disabled
or
2) The relevant origin URL (perl5.git.perl.org I *think*, but internally
sometimes the "names" differed) starts to mirror the new upstream.)

Nicholas Clark

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 07:01:59PM +0000, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> If it's all working then it should arrive tomorrow morning. The test
> summary cronjob (which runs 24 hours earlier) mailed me correctly today.

It *has* run. It hasn't generated an error (the .forward on that machine is
working because I got some "garbage" from another entry*, and I also checked
the local mailspool). It hasn't *bounced* either (no mail). So I assume it's
hit list moderation. Or fallen foul of some non-obvious high score spam-filter
rule that confused it with something that should be silently dropped on the
floor.

> However, the old summary will continue to run, as I no longer have access
> to *that* host to disable it. (need to bounce through perl5.git.perl.org,
> which now refuses access, which is fair enough). So that will continue to
> claim nothing is happening until either
>
> 1) the cron host is disabled
> or
> 2) The relevant origin URL (perl5.git.perl.org I *think*, but internally
> sometimes the "names" differed) starts to mirror the new upstream.)

I forget to say, that can also happen as a side effect of the CNAME record
for perl5.git.perl.org being changed to point to some other machine.
(Obviously the paths as presented by a different host need to remain the
same.)

This actually happened 2 or 3 times during the run up to the perforce->git
conversion, and I think a few years back when the booking.com hosted setup
was rebuilt on even better hardware.

Nicholas Clark

** git output of:
Auto packing the repository for optimum performance. You may also
run "git gc" manually. See "git help gc" for more information.
because the -qq flag does get passed onwards from first git command run.
I guess that that's a bug that I should report. We've hit it at work too.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 5:19 PM Karen Etheridge <perl@froods.org> wrote:
>
> I'm sure someone has asked this question already, but how is this email generated, and can we get its script to point to the github repo instead?

The script surely could be. The process that is running the script
is, as I understand it, running on some server at booking.com to which
the script author no longer has access, so it's essentially a zombie
and multiple requests to get anyone to find someone who has access and
stop it have gotten nowhere. If any sysadmins at booking.com owe you
a favor, do cash it in and at least get the old one killed. Yes, it
would be nice to have a new one pointing to the github repo, but there
are also things you can subscribe to there that may mostly take its
place.

> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:09 PM ?????? ???????? <mchlkzch@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What should be here in whole? It's always "No activity" last a pair of
> > weeks however there is some activity I guess.

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:02:04PM +1000, sisyphus wrote:
> >From what I've read, this "Perl 5 Commit Summary" is an automated and
> frequently incorrect message - and that a way to prevent it from being sent
> has not been found.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob

Yes, my access to the machine that it runs on has been disabled, but not
the cronjob. The machine's access to (the new) perl5.git.perl.org is
firewalled, hence why it is now confused.

And the sysadmins of the machine are not responding. We're not even sure
*who* the sysadmins are, and everyone asked sort of assumes that the machine
is going to be turned off, or doesn't know.

Nicholas Clark

I sense a wonderful opportunity here for the development of some highly
imaginative conspiracy theories ... involving nefarious activities of raku
developers, for example ;-).

Cheers,
Rob

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:22 PM Nicholas Clark <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:

> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:09 PM ?????? ???????? <mchlkzch@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > What should be here in whole? It's always "No activity" last a pair of
> > > weeks however there is some activity I guess.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:02:04PM +1000, sisyphus wrote:
> > >From what I've read, this "Perl 5 Commit Summary" is an automated and
> > frequently incorrect message - and that a way to prevent it from being
> sent
> > has not been found.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob
>
> Yes, my access to the machine that it runs on has been disabled, but not
> the cronjob. The machine's access to (the new) perl5.git.perl.org is
> firewalled, hence why it is now confused.
>
> And the sysadmins of the machine are not responding. We're not even sure
> *who* the sysadmins are, and everyone asked sort of assumes that the
> machine
> is going to be turned off, or doesn't know.
>
> Nicholas Clark
>

Nicholas Clark <nick@ccl4.org> wrote:
> And the sysadmins of the machine are not responding. We're not even sure
> *who* the sysadmins are, and everyone asked sort of assumes that the machine
> is going to be turned off, or doesn't know.

Ask (or somebody else) at develooper.com should be able to block
these messages to the list, though.

On 13.05.2020 14:56, sisyphus wrote:
> I sense a wonderful opportunity here for the development of some highly imaginative
> conspiracy theories ... involving nefarious activities of raku developers, for example ;-).

Indeed. This sounds a lot like mandatory confinement to me.
Did that server previously show any symptoms of a virus infection ?
Does anyone know in what State this server is hosted ?

>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:22 PM Nicholas Clark <nick@ccl4.org <mailto:nick@ccl4.org>> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:09 PM ?????? ???????? <mchlkzch@gmail.com
> <mailto:mchlkzch@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > > What should be here in whole? It's always "No activity" last a pair of
> > > weeks however there is some activity I guess.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:02:04PM +1000, sisyphus wrote:
> > >From what I've read, this "Perl 5 Commit Summary" is an automated and
> > frequently incorrect message - and that a way to prevent it from being sent
> > has not been found.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rob
>
> Yes, my access to the machine that it runs on has been disabled, but not
> the cronjob. The machine's access to (the new) perl5.git.perl.org
> <http://perl5.git.perl.org> is
> firewalled, hence why it is now confused.
>
> And the sysadmins of the machine are not responding. We're not even sure
> *who* the sysadmins are, and everyone asked sort of assumes that the machine
> is going to be turned off, or doesn't know.
>
> Nicholas Clark
>

Interesting. Rik is trying to kill this email and thought he had succeeded.

> On Jun 26, 2020, at 10:26 PM, Karen Etheridge <perl@froods.org> wrote:
>
> At least it's correct this time.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:10 PM Perl 5 commit summary <nick@ccl4.org <mailto:nick@ccl4.org>> wrote:
> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday
>
> No activity.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 01:17:59PM -0500, Todd Rinaldo wrote:
> Interesting. Rik is trying to kill this email and thought he had succeeded.

The (crazy) problem is that my shell access to the machine was cut off
without warning, so I wasn't able to disable the cronjob.

But for some reason Ricardo still has shell access to the machine. However,
he has no permissions of any form (read or even execute) on my home
directory, so despite me being able to tell him exactly what files are
where, how they are triggered, what they do, and about 5 ways you might
knobble it if you had even the slightest bit of access, he can't.

Also, whilst we know the (top level) owner of the rack (etc) that the
machine sits within, we seem to be completely unable to find anyone who
has root access, or even *knows* who has root access. It seems that the
machine has been disowned.

My suspicion is that as it was set up by someone who has now left that
company, records of it have mostly been lost. But that doesn't explain
how/why my shell access was cut off last October, as the original
sysadmin responsible for the setup had already (amicably) left by then,
so someone else must exist who has some root access.

(ho, unless it's getting authority for me via, say, LDAP, but not
Ricardo. In which case LDAP changes elsewhere would have this side effect,
for me, but not for him.)

Pulling the power cable (or the network cable) on the machine would be
just fine. But we can't even find someone who would do that.

Nicholas Clark

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 01:47:44PM +0900, Ben Bullock wrote:
> >
> >
> > locale.c: Extend a static function
> > Karl Williamson 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 4
> > deletions(-)
> > https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/aa7cc580307faa12
>
>
> Clicking on this link takes me to a message as follows:
>
> This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may
> belong to a fork outside of the repository.
>
> Most of the other links I tried had a similar issue.
>
> Is this commit summary working as it should be?

It's probably in a branch that's been rebased or deleted.

Only sha for commits to blead or maint branches are permanent.

Tony

Obviously, I commit by someone named Marti.


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On Friday, February 24, 2023, 10:22 PM, demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com> wrote:

Don't suppose anyone knows what a "martian" commit is?
Yves
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 04:05, Perl 5 commit summary <NWCLARK@cpan.org> wrote:

Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday

Current branch blead
13 commits.  7 unique authors.  2 unique committers.
50 files changed, 343 insertions(+), 276 deletions(-)
Thanks, applied:  Yves Orton (9)
Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/be7bcfde51400654

  Bump $VERSION in lib/feature.pm to 1.81.
  James E Keenan              2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/be7bcfde51400654

  Update the smartmatch experiment status
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/302d9511bb63612e

  Document that smartmatch is deprecated and will be removed in 5.42
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 16 deletions(
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/ac8ba642ae7dadc7

  Smartmatch deprecation warnings are disabled by `no warnings 'deprecated'`
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d798806246348688

  Replace 'experimental::smartmatch' by 'deprecated' in tests
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      14 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 39 deletions
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/8a487d3f1ae60a23

  Deprecate smartmatch
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      4 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 100 deletions
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/381382f7662757c3

  .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/da09070297bd182d

  Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/f86e19f127f6ba48

  Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
  Richard Leach               7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/b625025e93c87eab

  dist/threads - bump version to make cmp_version happy
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/c19e3e4e83b25cf2

  Use ppport.h when building dist/ modules in core
  Leon Timmermans             18 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 59 deletions
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/3b6c1c937e8a68fb

  warnings::register - simplify use of caller
  James Raspass               1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d6959f5c125a4785

  Correct equivelent in two more places
  Elvin Aslanov               2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/db08a4ed89072d80

Deleted branch leont/ppport-simple

Deleted branch yves/benchmark_times_sanity_check

Martian commit 40e77bf1bf6d155b15b34b80aaa843a1cf267ea2
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.

Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/40e77bf1bf6d155b

  .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/40e77bf1bf6d155b

Martian commit cf62ed0e8941a038e86abfb9882df75a9fe5a590
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.

Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/cf62ed0e8941a038

  Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/cf62ed0e8941a038

Martian commit aae16467378287deafdc043aa8e90d2b4b919052
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.
Thanks, applied:  Yves Orton (1)
Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/aae16467378287de

  Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
  Richard Leach               7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/aae16467378287de

Martian commit 0c6960bd1446f5dc2bb3487f1c9a580c1f2bb5c9
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.
Thanks, applied:  GitHub (1)
Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/0c6960bd1446f5dc

  warnings::register - simplify use of caller
  James Raspass               1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/0c6960bd1446f5dc

Ignored 57 GitHub auto-generated merge commits



--
perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

Except it says commits by me are martian commits.

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 05:28, William Farrell <williamfarrell52649@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Obviously, I commit by someone named Marti.
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2023, 10:22 PM, demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Don't suppose anyone knows what a "martian" commit is?
>
> Yves
>
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 04:05, Perl 5 commit summary <NWCLARK@cpan.org>
> wrote:
>
> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday
>
> Current branch blead
> 13 commits. 7 unique authors. 2 unique committers.
> 50 files changed, 343 insertions(+), 276 deletions(-)
> Thanks, applied: Yves Orton (9)
> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/be7bcfde51400654
>
> Bump $VERSION in lib/feature.pm to 1.81.
> James E Keenan 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2
> deletions(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/be7bcfde51400654
>
> Update the smartmatch experiment status
> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1
> deletion(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/302d9511bb63612e
>
> Document that smartmatch is deprecated and will be removed in 5.42
> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 16
> deletions(
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/ac8ba642ae7dadc7
>
> Smartmatch deprecation warnings are disabled by `no warnings
> 'deprecated'`
> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d798806246348688
>
> Replace 'experimental::smartmatch' by 'deprecated' in tests
> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 14 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 39
> deletions
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/8a487d3f1ae60a23
>
> Deprecate smartmatch
> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 4 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 100
> deletions
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/381382f7662757c3
>
> .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35
> deletions(-
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/da09070297bd182d
>
> Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/f86e19f127f6ba48
>
> Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
> Richard Leach 7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15
> deletions(
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/b625025e93c87eab
>
> dist/threads - bump version to make cmp_version happy
> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2
> deletions(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/c19e3e4e83b25cf2
>
> Use ppport.h when building dist/ modules in core
> Leon Timmermans 18 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 59
> deletions
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/3b6c1c937e8a68fb
>
> warnings::register - simplify use of caller
> James Raspass 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3
> deletions(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d6959f5c125a4785
>
> Correct equivelent in two more places
> Elvin Aslanov 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2
> deletions(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/db08a4ed89072d80
>
> Deleted branch leont/ppport-simple
>
> Deleted branch yves/benchmark_times_sanity_check
>
> Martian commit 40e77bf1bf6d155b15b34b80aaa843a1cf267ea2
> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
>
> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/40e77bf1bf6d155b
>
> .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35
> deletions(-
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/40e77bf1bf6d155b
>
> Martian commit cf62ed0e8941a038e86abfb9882df75a9fe5a590
> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
>
> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/cf62ed0e8941a038
>
> Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/cf62ed0e8941a038
>
> Martian commit aae16467378287deafdc043aa8e90d2b4b919052
> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
> Thanks, applied: Yves Orton (1)
> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/aae16467378287de
>
> Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
> Richard Leach 7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15
> deletions(
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/aae16467378287de
>
> Martian commit 0c6960bd1446f5dc2bb3487f1c9a580c1f2bb5c9
> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
> Thanks, applied: GitHub (1)
> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/0c6960bd1446f5dc
>
> warnings::register - simplify use of caller
> James Raspass 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3
> deletions(-)
> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/0c6960bd1446f5dc
>
> Ignored 57 GitHub auto-generated merge commits
>
>
>
> --
> perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"
>
>

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perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

Bummer! Maybe you know somebody named Marti…


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On Friday, February 24, 2023, 11:35 PM, demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com> wrote:

Except it says commits by me are martian commits. 
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 05:28, William Farrell <williamfarrell52649@yahoo.com> wrote:

Obviously, I commit by someone named Marti.


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On Friday, February 24, 2023, 10:22 PM, demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com> wrote:

Don't suppose anyone knows what a "martian" commit is?
Yves
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 04:05, Perl 5 commit summary <NWCLARK@cpan.org> wrote:

Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday

Current branch blead
13 commits.  7 unique authors.  2 unique committers.
50 files changed, 343 insertions(+), 276 deletions(-)
Thanks, applied:  Yves Orton (9)
Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/be7bcfde51400654

  Bump $VERSION in lib/feature.pm to 1.81.
  James E Keenan              2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/be7bcfde51400654

  Update the smartmatch experiment status
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/302d9511bb63612e

  Document that smartmatch is deprecated and will be removed in 5.42
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 16 deletions(
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/ac8ba642ae7dadc7

  Smartmatch deprecation warnings are disabled by `no warnings 'deprecated'`
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d798806246348688

  Replace 'experimental::smartmatch' by 'deprecated' in tests
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      14 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 39 deletions
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/8a487d3f1ae60a23

  Deprecate smartmatch
  Philippe Bruhat (BooK)      4 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 100 deletions
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/381382f7662757c3

  .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/da09070297bd182d

  Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/f86e19f127f6ba48

  Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
  Richard Leach               7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/b625025e93c87eab

  dist/threads - bump version to make cmp_version happy
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/c19e3e4e83b25cf2

  Use ppport.h when building dist/ modules in core
  Leon Timmermans             18 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 59 deletions
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/3b6c1c937e8a68fb

  warnings::register - simplify use of caller
  James Raspass               1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d6959f5c125a4785

  Correct equivelent in two more places
  Elvin Aslanov               2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/db08a4ed89072d80

Deleted branch leont/ppport-simple

Deleted branch yves/benchmark_times_sanity_check

Martian commit 40e77bf1bf6d155b15b34b80aaa843a1cf267ea2
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.

Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/40e77bf1bf6d155b

  .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35 deletions(-
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/40e77bf1bf6d155b

Martian commit cf62ed0e8941a038e86abfb9882df75a9fe5a590
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.

Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/cf62ed0e8941a038

  Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
  Yves Orton                  1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/cf62ed0e8941a038

Martian commit aae16467378287deafdc043aa8e90d2b4b919052
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.
Thanks, applied:  Yves Orton (1)
Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/aae16467378287de

  Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
  Richard Leach               7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15 deletions(
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/aae16467378287de

Martian commit 0c6960bd1446f5dc2bb3487f1c9a580c1f2bb5c9
1 commit.  1 unique author.  1 unique committer.
Thanks, applied:  GitHub (1)
Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/0c6960bd1446f5dc

  warnings::register - simplify use of caller
  James Raspass               1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
  https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/0c6960bd1446f5dc

Ignored 57 GitHub auto-generated merge commits



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perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"





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perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

Hi there,

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023, demerphq wrote:

> Don't suppose anyone knows what a "martian" commit is?

Nope.

laptop3:~/temp/git-2.39.2$ >>> grep -ri martian *
laptop3:~/temp/git-2.39.2$ >>>

--

73,
Ged.

Github shows this message for all of those commits:

"This commit does not belong to any branch on this repository, and may
belong to a fork outside of the repository."

Maybe they were part of a branch that has been deleted?

Op za 25 feb. 2023 om 05:35 schreef demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com>:

> Except it says commits by me are martian commits.
>
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 05:28, William Farrell <
> williamfarrell52649@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Obviously, I commit by someone named Marti.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>>
>> On Friday, February 24, 2023, 10:22 PM, demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Don't suppose anyone knows what a "martian" commit is?
>>
>> Yves
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 04:05, Perl 5 commit summary <NWCLARK@cpan.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Perl 5 commit summary, activity since Wednesday
>>
>> Current branch blead
>> 13 commits. 7 unique authors. 2 unique committers.
>> 50 files changed, 343 insertions(+), 276 deletions(-)
>> Thanks, applied: Yves Orton (9)
>> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/be7bcfde51400654
>>
>> Bump $VERSION in lib/feature.pm to 1.81.
>> James E Keenan 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2
>> deletions(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/be7bcfde51400654
>>
>> Update the smartmatch experiment status
>> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1
>> deletion(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/302d9511bb63612e
>>
>> Document that smartmatch is deprecated and will be removed in 5.42
>> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 3 files changed, 20 insertions(+), 16
>> deletions(
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/ac8ba642ae7dadc7
>>
>> Smartmatch deprecation warnings are disabled by `no warnings
>> 'deprecated'`
>> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d798806246348688
>>
>> Replace 'experimental::smartmatch' by 'deprecated' in tests
>> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 14 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 39
>> deletions
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/8a487d3f1ae60a23
>>
>> Deprecate smartmatch
>> Philippe Bruhat (BooK) 4 files changed, 95 insertions(+), 100
>> deletions
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/381382f7662757c3
>>
>> .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
>> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35
>> deletions(-
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/da09070297bd182d
>>
>> Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
>> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/f86e19f127f6ba48
>>
>> Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
>> Richard Leach 7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15
>> deletions(
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/b625025e93c87eab
>>
>> dist/threads - bump version to make cmp_version happy
>> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2
>> deletions(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/c19e3e4e83b25cf2
>>
>> Use ppport.h when building dist/ modules in core
>> Leon Timmermans 18 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 59
>> deletions
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/3b6c1c937e8a68fb
>>
>> warnings::register - simplify use of caller
>> James Raspass 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3
>> deletions(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/d6959f5c125a4785
>>
>> Correct equivelent in two more places
>> Elvin Aslanov 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2
>> deletions(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/db08a4ed89072d80
>>
>> Deleted branch leont/ppport-simple
>>
>> Deleted branch yves/benchmark_times_sanity_check
>>
>> Martian commit 40e77bf1bf6d155b15b34b80aaa843a1cf267ea2
>> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
>>
>> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/40e77bf1bf6d155b
>>
>> .github/workflows/testsuite.yml - switch from secrets to vars
>> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 35
>> deletions(-
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/40e77bf1bf6d155b
>>
>> Martian commit cf62ed0e8941a038e86abfb9882df75a9fe5a590
>> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
>>
>> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/cf62ed0e8941a038
>>
>> Benchmark.t - sanity check for a broken times()
>> Yves Orton 1 file changed, 83 insertions(+)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/cf62ed0e8941a038
>>
>> Martian commit aae16467378287deafdc043aa8e90d2b4b919052
>> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
>> Thanks, applied: Yves Orton (1)
>> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/aae16467378287de
>>
>> Prefer scalar assignment to get caller's first return value
>> Richard Leach 7 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 15
>> deletions(
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/aae16467378287de
>>
>> Martian commit 0c6960bd1446f5dc2bb3487f1c9a580c1f2bb5c9
>> 1 commit. 1 unique author. 1 unique committer.
>> Thanks, applied: GitHub (1)
>> Snapshot: http://github.com/Perl/perl5/tarball/0c6960bd1446f5dc
>>
>> warnings::register - simplify use of caller
>> James Raspass 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3
>> deletions(-)
>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/commit/0c6960bd1446f5dc
>>
>> Ignored 57 GitHub auto-generated merge commits
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"
>>
>>
>
> --
> perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"
>