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IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com
Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we're confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google's Project Shield. We're in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving "apnews.com" to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I've tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we're connected to but it didn't seem to help. I did raise a "Reachability" ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the "usual" indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud's status page also doesn't seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.

Thank you,

Erik Ogren
Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
Re: IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com [ In reply to ]
Confirming fine in Perth, Australia:

~ diff <(curl -s6 https://apnews.com) <(curl -s4 https://apnews.com)
~

AS4764
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From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org>
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Subject: [outages] IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com


Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we?re confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google?s Project Shield. We?re in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving ?apnews.com? to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I?ve tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we?re connected to but it didn?t seem to help. I did raise a ?Reachability? ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the ?usual? indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud?s status page also doesn?t seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.



Thank you,



Erik Ogren

Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
Re: IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com [ In reply to ]
Seems to be working fine from here (Southeast Tennessee), accessing it from
108.85.43.0/24. AT&T residential fiber.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021, 21:42 Erik Ogren via Outages <outages@outages.org>
wrote:

> Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to
> https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but
> if IPv4 is used occasionally we’re confronted by a custom Google 404 error
> page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews
> site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be
> protected/hosted through Google’s Project Shield. We’re in the Mountain
> West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own
> network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T
> cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and
> multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various
> networks are resolving “apnews.com” to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple
> different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I’ve
> tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17
> between the various Google datacenters we’re connected to but it didn’t
> seem to help. I did raise a “Reachability” ticket on our Google ISP portal
> for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be
> since none of the “usual” indicators like downdetector seem to be
> indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud’s
> status page also doesn’t seem to indicate any active issues, granted
> Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Erik Ogren
>
> Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
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Re: IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com [ In reply to ]
I can second those symptoms. Google-style 404 page on IPv4, normal page on IPv6. AS 20115. South central MN, Charter/Spectrum.


From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> On Behalf Of Erik Ogren via Outages
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 20:36
To: outages@outages.org
Subject: [outages] IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com

Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://apnews.com over IPv4? If IPv6 is used it seems to work fine but if IPv4 is used occasionally we're confronted by a custom Google 404 error page. Sometimes you can get the 404, refresh, get the expected/full APNews site, refresh again, then get another 404. APNews seems to be protected/hosted through Google's Project Shield. We're in the Mountain West region (Wyoming/Montana) and I have validated this using our own network (AS4474), Charter (Formerly Bresnan)/AS33588, AT&T cellular/AS20057, and CenturyLink/AS209 across multiple browsers and multiple devices with the same results. All devices across the various networks are resolving "apnews.com" to 34.96.67.30. We have a couple different connections to Google ASN15169 in different cities which I've tried to shift the egress traffic from our network towards 34.96.0.0/17 between the various Google datacenters we're connected to but it didn't seem to help. I did raise a "Reachability" ticket on our Google ISP portal for their NOC to investigate, was just curious how widespread this might be since none of the "usual" indicators like downdetector seem to be indicating a widespread issue at least not that I could see. Google Cloud's status page also doesn't seem to indicate any active issues, granted Project Shield is not explicitly mentioned there.

Thank you,

Erik Ogren
Network Administrator (TCT AS4474)
Re: IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com [ In reply to ]
On 2/27/21 18:36, Erik Oregon via Outages wrote:
> Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to
> https://apnews.com <https://apnews.com> over IPv4?

Seeing problems from western Oregon, origin AS 11404. Seeing Google 404
page. Actual page occasionally loads when refreshing.


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com [ In reply to ]
It’s happening intermittently for me now on a mobile browser from Spectrum as I refresh Not happening over ATT Cellular.

—Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Jay Hennigan via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>
> ?On 2/27/21 18:36, Erik Oregon via Outages wrote:
>> Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAicvB_2SzEf8kMYy1ZvY6cobMHNvLaFZmZaR5ctR9TTEbAvBkfFnKP5K8w$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAicvB_2SzEf8kMYy1ZvY6cobMHNvLaFZmZaR5ctR9TTEbAvBkfFnKP5K8w$ > over IPv4?
>
> Seeing problems from western Oregon, origin AS 11404. Seeing Google 404 page. Actual page occasionally loads when refreshing.
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IPv4 Issues Accessing apnews.com [ In reply to ]
Same on GCI/Alaska.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 7:56 PM Chapman, Brad (NBCUniversal) via Outages <
outages@outages.org> wrote:

> It’s happening intermittently for me now on a mobile browser from Spectrum
> as I refresh Not happening over ATT Cellular.
>
> —Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 27, 2021, at 7:34 PM, Jay Hennigan via Outages <
> outages@outages.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?On 2/27/21 18:36, Erik Oregon via Outages wrote:
> >> Is anybody else experiencing reachability issues getting to
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAicvB_2SzEf8kMYy1ZvY6cobMHNvLaFZmZaR5ctR9TTEbAvBkfFnKP5K8w$
> <
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://apnews.com__;!!PIZeeW5wscynRQ!8-9Ig0dVAicvB_2SzEf8kMYy1ZvY6cobMHNvLaFZmZaR5ctR9TTEbAvBkfFnKP5K8w$
> > over IPv4?
> >
> > Seeing problems from western Oregon, origin AS 11404. Seeing Google 404
> page. Actual page occasionally loads when refreshing.
> >
> >
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