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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville

Dec 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

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It?s pretty common since NG normally flows

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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
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> ?
> It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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> Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Yes, but you have to have on-site storage, and the diesel goes bad over time if not consumed. Like the other poster said, every option has pros and cons.
On Dec 25, 2020 4:04 PM, Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:

Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:

 It’s pretty common since NG normally flows

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Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?

On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org>
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> Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
>
> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
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> ?
> Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
>
>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>> Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
>>
>>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> ?
>>> It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
>>>
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>>> Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I find this very interesting as well

“ The Federal Aviation Administration said an air traffic control tower at the Nashville International Airport lost phone and internet capabilities around 1 p.m. because of a phone line outage.

The outage resulted in
the Memphis Air Traffic Control Center, which handles high-altitude traffic out
of Nashville, to stop air traffic in and around the airport beginning at 2 p.m.
local time. ”

ATC doesn’t have redundant systems in place?

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Matt Hoppes <mattlists@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
>
>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>> ?
>> Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>> Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
>>>>
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>>>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 4:50:05 PM
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>>>> Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
>>>>
>>>> > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Brian Knight via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Yet another reminder that this is not a discussion list, and that there IS a discussion list. It baffles me that people on this list are so hellbent on not using the discuss list for discussion.

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>
> ?
> Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
>
>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>> ?
>> Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>> Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
>>>
>>>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
>>>>
>>>> From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 4:50:05 PM
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>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] Explosion in Nashville
>>>>
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>>>> Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
>>>>
>>>> > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Brian Knight via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Explosion in Nashville [ In reply to ]

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Dec 25, 2020, 3:12 PM

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My apologies. I thought we were on the discussion list. Not sure how the thread jumped back.

> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Brett Dikeman <brett.dikeman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Yet another reminder that this is not a discussion list, and that there IS a discussion list. It baffles me that people on this list are so hellbent on not using the discuss list for discussion.
>
>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>>
>> ?
>> Yes. Obviously you need large enough reserves.
>>
>>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>> ?
>>> Diesel works until it doesn't. Remember the NY situation during Sandy?
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2020, 5:07 PM Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>>> Until it doesn’t. Diesel is always there as long as the tank is full.
>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Stephens, Jamie A <Jamie.Stephens@charter.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> It’s pretty common since NG normally flows
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Outages <outages-bounces@outages.org> on behalf of Matt Hoppes via Outages <outages@outages.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 4:50:05 PM
>>>>> To: Brian Knight via Outages <outages@outages.org>
>>>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] Explosion in Nashville
>>>>>
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>>>>> Why would you use natural gas for your backup power??? That just causes issues like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Brian Knight via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote:
>>>>> >
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