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For the ACX line, what is the Maximum number of MPLS labels in a packet’s
label stack (push, pop, and swap operations)? Specifically, mostly
interested in the ACX5048 and ACX2200's

I found the following chart for the QFX line, and it was extremely helpful.
I haven't been able to find the same information for the ACX Line however:
https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/reference/general/mpls-scaling-values-qfx-series.html


Can anyone confirm or deny if the ACX5048's hardware is identical to the
QFX5100? My understanding is they run a different JUNOS load on them, but
hardware wise they are extremely similar. On the hardware side, is there
anything in the ACX5048 that would allow more MPLS labels in a packet’s
label stack than the QFX5100?

For the ACX line, do they support streaming telemetry? I am not sure
exactly what to look for on the streaming telemetry support for the ACX. I
basically just want to see realtime interface and optical stats. Which JTI
feature is that?

For the ACX5000, there are only 3 items listed under the Junos Telemetry
Interface section.

https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Routing&typ=1#family=&pid=10105000&platform=ACX5000&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.42180881218269106&swName=Junos%20OS

For comparison, the QFX 5100 shows 21 different features under the JTI
Section:
https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching&typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.566764714896294&swName=Junos%20OS

Which feature am I looking for? Yes, I know this will require a collector
of some sort.
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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
Is there a Juniper SE that has the ability to answer these questions?

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 12:49 PM Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:

> For the ACX line, what is the Maximum number of MPLS labels in a packet’s
> label stack (push, pop, and swap operations)? Specifically, mostly
> interested in the ACX5048 and ACX2200's
>
> I found the following chart for the QFX line, and it was extremely
> helpful. I haven't been able to find the same information for the ACX Line
> however:
> https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/reference/general/mpls-scaling-values-qfx-series.html
>
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny if the ACX5048's hardware is identical to the
> QFX5100? My understanding is they run a different JUNOS load on them, but
> hardware wise they are extremely similar. On the hardware side, is there
> anything in the ACX5048 that would allow more MPLS labels in a packet’s
> label stack than the QFX5100?
>
> For the ACX line, do they support streaming telemetry? I am not sure
> exactly what to look for on the streaming telemetry support for the ACX. I
> basically just want to see realtime interface and optical stats. Which JTI
> feature is that?
>
> For the ACX5000, there are only 3 items listed under the Junos Telemetry
> Interface section.
>
>
> https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Routing&typ=1#family=&pid=10105000&platform=ACX5000&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.42180881218269106&swName=Junos%20OS
>
> For comparison, the QFX 5100 shows 21 different features under the JTI
> Section:
>
> https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching&typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.566764714896294&swName=Junos%20OS
>
> Which feature am I looking for? Yes, I know this will require a collector
> of some sort.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
I don't think there are many SEs on this list. I also think your questions
would take a lot of time to research, and an SE on this list would likely
have to research that on their own time.

You are far more likely to get an answer by asking the SE for your account.

--
Eldon

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021, 11:53 Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:

> For the ACX line, what is the Maximum number of MPLS labels in a packet’s
> label stack (push, pop, and swap operations)? Specifically, mostly
> interested in the ACX5048 and ACX2200's
>
> I found the following chart for the QFX line, and it was extremely helpful.
> I haven't been able to find the same information for the ACX Line however:
>
> https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/reference/general/mpls-scaling-values-qfx-series.html
>
>
> Can anyone confirm or deny if the ACX5048's hardware is identical to the
> QFX5100? My understanding is they run a different JUNOS load on them, but
> hardware wise they are extremely similar. On the hardware side, is there
> anything in the ACX5048 that would allow more MPLS labels in a packet’s
> label stack than the QFX5100?
>
> For the ACX line, do they support streaming telemetry? I am not sure
> exactly what to look for on the streaming telemetry support for the ACX. I
> basically just want to see realtime interface and optical stats. Which JTI
> feature is that?
>
> For the ACX5000, there are only 3 items listed under the Junos Telemetry
> Interface section.
>
>
> https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Routing&typ=1#family=&pid=10105000&platform=ACX5000&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.42180881218269106&swName=Junos%20OS
>
> For comparison, the QFX 5100 shows 21 different features under the JTI
> Section:
>
> https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching&typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.566764714896294&swName=Junos%20OS
>
> Which feature am I looking for? Yes, I know this will require a collector
> of some sort.
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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
Of the interfaces configured for mpls on this acx, they show max labels 3



me@5048> show mpls interface detail | grep "Interface|labels"
Interface: ae0.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ae40.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: xe-0/0/0.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/3.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/5.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/13.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/18.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/24.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/38.0
Maximum labels: 3

me@5048> show system information
Model: acx5048
Family: junos
Junos: 17.4R2-S11
Hostname: 5048



-Aaron




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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
Thanks all for this information. Aaron I had my client run this same
command on their QFX5100, and it too has max 3 labels. It seems the issue
is that the client needs a layer 2 transport over a layer 3 network. VPLS
is the logical choice, and the ACX5048 supports this according to the
Juniper Feature Explorer. The QFX5100, however, does not. What layer 2 over
Layer 3 option do you recommend for the QFX5100 to talk to an ACX5048 or
MX204 on the other end?
It looks like the QFX5100 supports Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit). Is this
an alternative to VPLS? ACX and MX does not support Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2
circuit) however. It seems there is no common protocol that both the QFX
and ACX/MX share in common under the Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)
section of the feature explorer. Is there any solution other than replacing
the QFX with ACX's or MX's?

https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching&typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.10700692867685069&swName=Junos%20OS


On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:51 AM <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:

> Of the interfaces configured for mpls on this acx, they show max labels 3
>
>
>
> me@5048> show mpls interface detail | grep "Interface|labels"
> Interface: ae0.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ae40.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: xe-0/0/0.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ge-0/0/3.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ge-0/0/5.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ge-0/0/13.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ge-0/0/18.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ge-0/0/24.0
> Maximum labels: 3
> Interface: ge-0/0/38.0
> Maximum labels: 3
>
> me@5048> show system information
> Model: acx5048
> Family: junos
> Junos: 17.4R2-S11
> Hostname: 5048
>
>
>
> -Aaron
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
I just received an off list email stating that the ACX5048 does support
l2circuit (LDP signaled). Is this the same feature as Ethernet-over-MPLS
(L2 circuit)? If so why is it showing this feature is not supported on ACX
(or MX for that matter)? Is the feature explorer incorrect?
https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/feature-info.html?fKey=6620&fn=Ethernet-over-MPLS%20(L2%20circuit)


I do see
20.3R1
Starting in Junos OS Release 20.3R1, support for Layer 2 circuit to provide
Layer 2 VPN and VPWS with LDP signaling.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:52 AM Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks all for this information. Aaron I had my client run this same
> command on their QFX5100, and it too has max 3 labels. It seems the issue
> is that the client needs a layer 2 transport over a layer 3 network. VPLS
> is the logical choice, and the ACX5048 supports this according to the
> Juniper Feature Explorer. The QFX5100, however, does not. What layer 2 over
> Layer 3 option do you recommend for the QFX5100 to talk to an ACX5048 or
> MX204 on the other end?
> It looks like the QFX5100 supports Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit). Is
> this an alternative to VPLS? ACX and MX does not support Ethernet-over-MPLS
> (L2 circuit) however. It seems there is no common protocol that both the
> QFX and ACX/MX share in common under the Virtual Private Networks (VPNs)
> section of the feature explorer. Is there any solution other than replacing
> the QFX with ACX's or MX's?
>
>
> https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching&typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.10700692867685069&swName=Junos%20OS
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:51 AM <aaron1@gvtc.com> wrote:
>
>> Of the interfaces configured for mpls on this acx, they show max labels 3
>>
>>
>>
>> me@5048> show mpls interface detail | grep "Interface|labels"
>> Interface: ae0.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ae40.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: xe-0/0/0.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ge-0/0/3.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ge-0/0/5.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ge-0/0/13.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ge-0/0/18.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ge-0/0/24.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>> Interface: ge-0/0/38.0
>> Maximum labels: 3
>>
>> me@5048> show system information
>> Model: acx5048
>> Family: junos
>> Junos: 17.4R2-S11
>> Hostname: 5048
>>
>>
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
I run martini rfc 4447 ldp-based l2circuits as well as vpls on our mx204’s and also acx5048’s (I think junos 15.x and 17.x on 5048 and I think it’s 18.x on 204)… I don’t think I’ve tried mpls on qfx5120 (not sure what version of gfx5100) you use.



I just tried to lab up l2circuit on one of my qrx5120’s and I get a license error for mpls feature



-Aaron





From: Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:30 PM
To: Aaron <aaron1@gvtc.com>
Cc: Juniper List <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX Questions



I just received an off list email stating that the ACX5048 does support l2circuit (LDP signaled). Is this the same feature as Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit)? If so why is it showing this feature is not supported on ACX (or MX for that matter)? Is the feature explorer incorrect? https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/feature-info.html?fKey=6620 <https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/feature-info.html?fKey=6620&fn=Ethernet-over-MPLS%20(L2%20circuit)> &fn=Ethernet-over-MPLS%20(L2%20circuit)



I do see

20.3R1

Starting in Junos OS Release 20.3R1, support for Layer 2 circuit to provide Layer 2 VPN and VPWS with LDP signaling.



On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:52 AM Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com <mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks all for this information. Aaron I had my client run this same command on their QFX5100, and it too has max 3 labels. It seems the issue is that the client needs a layer 2 transport over a layer 3 network. VPLS is the logical choice, and the ACX5048 supports this according to the Juniper Feature Explorer. The QFX5100, however, does not. What layer 2 over Layer 3 option do you recommend for the QFX5100 to talk to an ACX5048 or MX204 on the other end?
It looks like the QFX5100 supports Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit). Is this an alternative to VPLS? ACX and MX does not support Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit) however. It seems there is no common protocol that both the QFX and ACX/MX share in common under the Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) section of the feature explorer. Is there any solution other than replacing the QFX with ACX's or MX's?

https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching <https://apps.juniper.net/feature-explorer/select-platform.html?category=Switching&typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.10700692867685069&swName=Junos%20OS> &typ=1#family=&pid=31705100&platform=QFX5100&rel=20.4R1&sid=1093&stat=0.10700692867685069&swName=Junos%20OS





On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:51 AM <aaron1@gvtc.com <mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com> > wrote:

Of the interfaces configured for mpls on this acx, they show max labels 3



me@5048> show mpls interface detail | grep "Interface|labels"
Interface: ae0.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ae40.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: xe-0/0/0.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/3.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/5.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/13.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/18.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/24.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/38.0
Maximum labels: 3

me@5048> show system information
Model: acx5048
Family: junos
Junos: 17.4R2-S11
Hostname: 5048



-Aaron





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Re: ACX Questions [ In reply to ]
Hello everyone.

We have used the QFX5120 with L2circuit for long. Now in version 19.4R3-S2 it is possible to use this this function in aggregate interfaces. Log time effort to get this function back again. For both 48Y and 32C.

The balancing feature is supported only by DLB for now (not FAT or EL)

You also need to understand the need for policers in tunnels. Types of signaling and tunnel scalability, depending on chipset (T3).

But they work well for some limited projects.

The suggestion is to ask your SE for a POC and approve everything you need, in addition to testing scalability.

See the new ACX7100-48L and ACX7100-32C housings that are coming out with J2. They look interesting and promising (features and scalability)

We should test them soon.

Att,

Giuliano

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Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX Questions

I run martini rfc 4447 ldp-based l2circuits as well as vpls on our mx204's and also acx5048's (I think junos 15.x and 17.x on 5048 and I think it's 18.x on 204)... I don't think I've tried mpls on qfx5120 (not sure what version of gfx5100) you use.



I just tried to lab up l2circuit on one of my qrx5120's and I get a license error for mpls feature



-Aaron





From: Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 2:30 PM
To: Aaron <aaron1@gvtc.com>
Cc: Juniper List <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] ACX Questions



I just received an off list email stating that the ACX5048 does support l2circuit (LDP signaled). Is this the same feature as Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit)? If so why is it showing this feature is not supported on ACX (or MX for that matter)? Is the feature explorer incorrect? https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.juniper.net%2Ffeature-explorer%2Ffeature-info.html%3FfKey%3D6620&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7Ca894125d52644bd4059a08d901135ff1%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C637542005056267763%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=mUclh7UDnl4BX4nIirdM5FFbtR9SKMC01iWHDMNqUtQ%3D&amp;reserved=0 <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.juniper.net%2Ffeature-explorer%2Ffeature-info.html%3FfKey%3D6620%26fn%3DEthernet-over-MPLS%2520&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cgiuliano%40wztech.com.br%7Ca894125d52644bd4059a08d901135ff1%7C584787b077bd4312bf8815412b8ae504%7C1%7C0%7C637542005056267763%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=cm1%2FqV2VK7dmi9ZV2Xhg%2BnKRTdyzeg30E8uCW%2BY1e%2FA%3D&amp;reserved=0(L2%20circuit)> &fn=Ethernet-over-MPLS%20(L2%20circuit)



I do see

20.3R1

Starting in Junos OS Release 20.3R1, support for Layer 2 circuit to provide Layer 2 VPN and VPWS with LDP signaling.



On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 8:52 AM Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com <mailto:colton.conor@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks all for this information. Aaron I had my client run this same command on their QFX5100, and it too has max 3 labels. It seems the issue is that the client needs a layer 2 transport over a layer 3 network. VPLS is the logical choice, and the ACX5048 supports this according to the Juniper Feature Explorer. The QFX5100, however, does not. What layer 2 over Layer 3 option do you recommend for the QFX5100 to talk to an ACX5048 or MX204 on the other end?
It looks like the QFX5100 supports Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit). Is this an alternative to VPLS? ACX and MX does not support Ethernet-over-MPLS (L2 circuit) however. It seems there is no common protocol that both the QFX and ACX/MX share in common under the Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) section of the feature explorer. Is there any solution other than replacing the QFX with ACX's or MX's?

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On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:51 AM <aaron1@gvtc.com <mailto:aaron1@gvtc.com> > wrote:

Of the interfaces configured for mpls on this acx, they show max labels 3



me@5048> show mpls interface detail | grep "Interface|labels"
Interface: ae0.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ae40.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: xe-0/0/0.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/3.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/5.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/13.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/18.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/24.0
Maximum labels: 3
Interface: ge-0/0/38.0
Maximum labels: 3

me@5048> show system information
Model: acx5048
Family: junos
Junos: 17.4R2-S11
Hostname: 5048



-Aaron





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