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On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:05:54PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote:
> i am a legit juniper customer. i want to get and install a new
> image in a router in a pop. but i am at home on a (relatively)
> slow dsl link. i don't want to spend an hour slurping it from
> https://download.juniper.net/software/junos/..., and then push it
> back out my dsl to the pop. and i would prefer not to install a
> browser on a pop host and redirect the DISPLAY. is there a known
> legit way to ftp juniper images?

pkg_add -r lynx-ssl :)

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> pkg_add -r lynx-ssl :)

i already tried that

# ls -d /var/db/pkg/lynx-*
/var/db/pkg/lynx-ssl-2.8.4.1c/

i get password/auth error using the userid/password i use for
auth to juniper's web site.

randy

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
> i am a legit juniper customer. i want to get and install a new
> image in a router in a pop. but i am at home on a (relatively)
> slow dsl link. i don't want to spend an hour slurping it from
> https://download.juniper.net/software/junos/..., and then push it
> back out my dsl to the pop. and i would prefer not to install a
> browser on a pop host and redirect the DISPLAY. is there a known
> legit way to ftp juniper images?

How about wget from a Linux system at the POP? It's a command line web
downloader which supports HTTPS (as well as HTTP & FTP).

________________________________________________________________________
Jay Ford, Network Engineering Group, Information Technology Services
University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA 52242
email: jay-ford@uiowa.edu, phone: 319-335-5555, fax: 319-335-2951

Randy,

There are other 2 alternatives of text-based browses that can work.
The first one is my preferred choice over lynx:

pkg_add -r elinks or pkg_add -r links

Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] using ftp to download


> > pkg_add -r lynx-ssl :)
>
> i already tried that
>
> # ls -d /var/db/pkg/lynx-*
> /var/db/pkg/lynx-ssl-2.8.4.1c/
>
> i get password/auth error using the userid/password i use for
> auth to juniper's web site.
>
> randy
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
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Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> writes:

> i am a legit juniper customer. i want to get and install a new
> image in a router in a pop. but i am at home on a (relatively)
> slow dsl link. i don't want to spend an hour slurping it from
> https://download.juniper.net/software/junos/...,

Be happy that you can download yourself at all. That's a luxury not
all legit juniper customers enjoy.

</rant>

Robert

On 20 Jun 2003, Robert Kiessling wrote:

> Be happy that you can download yourself at all. That's a luxury not all
> legit juniper customers enjoy.

Ack that. Would love to get comment from Juniper as why this is. We've
paid for software updates and support, why shouldn't we have direct access
to them?

Are we paying less for our support contracts in Europe?

Rich

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 01:35:11PM +0100, variable@ednet.co.uk wrote:
| On 20 Jun 2003, Robert Kiessling wrote:
|
| > Be happy that you can download yourself at all. That's a luxury not all
| > legit juniper customers enjoy.
|
| Ack that. Would love to get comment from Juniper as why this is. We've
| paid for software updates and support, why shouldn't we have direct access
| to them?

we won't discuss our access policy here -

pls contact your local sales/customer service rep. to
make sure that you receive appropriate access privileges;

/hannes

Why don't you set up a windows box w/ vnc, or a linux box w/ X-window

And log in remotely.


-----Original Message-----
From: juniper-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jay Ford
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 9:17 PM
To: Randy Bush
Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] using ftp to download

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
> i am a legit juniper customer. i want to get and install a new
> image in a router in a pop. but i am at home on a (relatively)
> slow dsl link. i don't want to spend an hour slurping it from
> https://download.juniper.net/software/junos/..., and then push it
> back out my dsl to the pop. and i would prefer not to install a
> browser on a pop host and redirect the DISPLAY. is there a known
> legit way to ftp juniper images?

How about wget from a Linux system at the POP? It's a command line web
downloader which supports HTTPS (as well as HTTP & FTP).

________________________________________________________________________
Jay Ford, Network Engineering Group, Information Technology Services
University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA 52242
email: jay-ford@uiowa.edu, phone: 319-335-5555, fax: 319-335-2951
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Hannes Gredler <hannes@juniper.net> writes:

> we won't discuss our access policy here -

It's only fair to mention it though, so that people are informed and
are not assuming that Juniper gives them what they would perfectly
naturally expect.

> pls contact your local sales/customer service rep. to
> make sure that you receive appropriate access privileges;

You should know well that this is useless. Juniper does not give
European customers with support contracts direct access to software
images. That's a statement we've repeatedly received.

Robert

Hello Randy , I have not found a method other than accessing the
server(s) from a workstation running any decent browser . I have
tried -all- (except the one alex mentioned) command line html
accessors to no avail . One method that would have been nice is
'sftp' what with the ability to set it up to use keys & passwords
it lends itself relatively nicely to the job . Sorry I could not
be of any 'real' help . JimL

>>From: Alex Soares de Moura <alexsm@uol.com.br>
>>pkg_add -r elinks or pkg_add -r links
>>Alex

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
> > pkg_add -r lynx-ssl :)
> i already tried that
> # ls -d /var/db/pkg/lynx-*
> /var/db/pkg/lynx-ssl-2.8.4.1c/
> i get password/auth error using the userid/password i use for
> auth to juniper's web site.
> randy
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| Network Engineer | P.O. Box 854 | Give me Linux |
| babydr@baby-dragons.com | Coudersport PA 16915 | only on AXP |
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Wan Lan Man <wanlanman_2000@yahoo.com> writes:

> https://www.juniper.net/registration/register.jsp
>
> The above link seemed straight forward to me and
> worked just fine for my companies contract.

You're probably not in Europe then. We've repeatedly received the
statement that Juniper will not allow this for us, although we have
service contracts. Without any understandable reason, of course.

Robert

> Why don't you set up a windows box w/ vnc, or a linux box w/ X-window
> And log in remotely.

in a real pop? you're kidding, right?

randy

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 10:25:32PM +0100, Robert Kiessling wrote:
| Hannes Gredler <hannes@juniper.net> writes:
|
| > we won't discuss our access policy here -

[ ... ]

| > pls contact your local sales/customer service rep. to
| > make sure that you receive appropriate access privileges;
|
| You should know well that this is useless. Juniper does not give
| European customers with support contracts direct access to software
| images. That's a statement we've repeatedly received.

your assertion is wrong - the majority of my customers has direct access -
you and i know that in your case there are solid reasons why we do not grant
direct access - and those business reasons are clearly
outside of the scope of this _technical_ forum;

/hannes

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Hello Alexander , I have found that elinks can acquire a url from
either of http: or https: . ie:

elinks "https://download.juniper.net/software/junos/5.7R2.4/jinstall-5.7R2.4-domestic-signed.tgz"

This will ask for your username & passwd & acquire the tarball
After it has retreived all the data in the URL: you'll need to
press ESC f v <enter>

I am still looking for a method within elinks docs & elinks
maillist to allow a more wget like approach . Hth , JimL

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Alexander Tarkhov wrote:
> Hello J-NSP,
> I'd like to share my experience.
> I have noticed that the command-line browser might not work when I try to
> access sw files directly (copy/paste URL from Win browser). I tried to
> use wget like this - and failed. But everything works fine when I start
> right from the Juniper homepage (using http:// - not https://) and log in
> manually. I use "links" on a Linux host this way, and it works.
>
> One thing I would like to mention is - I am strictly against installing
> such tools on a router itself, this would be a misuse.
> So my post is not 100% relevant to the discussion - sorry.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander Tarkhov
>
> Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
>
> Hello Randy , I have not found a method other than accessing the
> server(s) from a workstation running any decent browser . I have
> tried -all- (except the one alex mentioned) command line html
> accessors to no avail . One method that would have been nice is
> 'sftp' what with the ability to set it up to use keys & passwords
> it lends itself relatively nicely to the job . Sorry I could not
> be of any 'real' help . JimL
>
>
>
> From: Alex Soares de Moura <alexsm@uol.com.br>
> pkg_add -r elinks or pkg_add -r links
> Alex
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Randy Bush wrote:
>
>
> pkg_add -r lynx-ssl :)
>
>
> i already tried that
> # ls -d /var/db/pkg/lynx-*
> /var/db/pkg/lynx-ssl-2.8.4.1c/
> i get password/auth error using the userid/password i use for
> auth to juniper's web site.
> randy
>
>
>
>
>

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| James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS |
| Network Engineer | P.O. Box 854 | Give me Linux |
| babydr@baby-dragons.com | Coudersport PA 16915 | only on AXP |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+

https://www.juniper.net/registration/register.jsp

The above link seemed straight forward to me and
worked just fine for my companies contract.


John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: juniper-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net
> [mailto:juniper-nsp-bounces@puck.nether.net]On
Behalf Of
> variable@ednet.co.uk
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 5:35 AM
> To: Robert.Kiessling@de.easynet.net
> Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] using ftp to download
>
>
> On 20 Jun 2003, Robert Kiessling wrote:
>
> > Be happy that you can download yourself at all.
That's a
> luxury not all
> > legit juniper customers enjoy.
>
> Ack that. Would love to get comment from Juniper as
why this
> is. We've
> paid for software updates and support, why shouldn't
we have
> direct access
> to them?
>
> Are we paying less for our support contracts in
Europe?
>
> Rich
>
> _______________________________________________
> juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
>

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