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recommendation for switches to use with an M10

Nov 13, 2002, 12:03 PM

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Greetings!

I am new to Juniper products, so please forgive my lack of knowledge
that most of you already have. We will be getting our new Internet
link via an M10 Juniper router (over single-mode fiber), and I need to
get a GigE switch to use with it that is supposed to avoid some
problems with multicasting that some switches have supposedly been
having when hooked-up to Juniper routers. And in general, I'd be
interested to hear of any recommendations for a line of GigE and 10/100
switches that we can standardize on, here, as well as for vendors to
use. I have been looking at Extreme and Foundry so far.

Thanks much in advance!

--Georgi

recommendation for switches to use with an M10 [ In reply to ]

neil.stirling at nortelnetworks

Nov 18, 2002, 1:04 AM

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Georgi,

You might want to test Nortel Networks Passport switches as well.
Fully tested with Juniper & Cisco - excellent performance and reliability
all as standard.

http://www.nortelnetworks.com/products/01/passport/8600com/

Hard to beat (and not saying that just because I work for them !!).

Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: Georgi Kostov [mailto:kostov@mail.med.upenn.edu]
Sent: 13 November 2002 20:04
To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
Cc: Georgi Kostov
Subject: [j-nsp] recommendation for switches to use with an M10

Greetings!

I am new to Juniper products, so please forgive my lack of knowledge
that most of you already have. We will be getting our new Internet
link via an M10 Juniper router (over single-mode fiber), and I need to
get a GigE switch to use with it that is supposed to avoid some
problems with multicasting that some switches have supposedly been
having when hooked-up to Juniper routers. And in general, I'd be
interested to hear of any recommendations for a line of GigE and 10/100
switches that we can standardize on, here, as well as for vendors to
use. I have been looking at Extreme and Foundry so far.

Thanks much in advance!

--Georgi

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Georgi,


You might want to test Nortel Networks Passport =
switches as well.
 Fully tested with Juniper & Cisco - excellent =
performance and reliability all as standard.


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Hard to beat (and not saying that just because I work =
for them !!).


Neil.


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Greetings!


I am new to Juniper products, so please forgive my =
lack of knowledge 
 that most of you already have.  We will be =
getting our new Internet 
 link via an M10 Juniper router (over single-mode =
fiber), and I need to 
 get a GigE switch to use with it that is supposed to =
avoid some 
 problems with multicasting that some switches have =
supposedly been 
 having when hooked-up to Juniper routers.  And =
in general, I'd be 
 interested to hear of any recommendations for a line =
of GigE and 10/100 
 switches that we can standardize on, here, as well =
as for vendors to 
 use.  I have been looking at Extreme and =
Foundry so far.


Thanks much in advance!


--Georgi


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recommendation for switches to use with an M10 [ In reply to ]

jtk at aharp

Nov 23, 2002, 2:24 PM

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:03:41PM -0500, Georgi Kostov wrote:
> link via an M10 Juniper router (over single-mode fiber), and I need to
> get a GigE switch to use with it that is supposed to avoid some
> problems with multicasting that some switches have supposedly been
> having when hooked-up to Juniper routers. And in general, I'd be
> interested to hear of any recommendations for a line of GigE and 10/100
> switches that we can standardize on, here, as well as for vendors to
> use. I have been looking at Extreme and Foundry so far.

I think you'll find most anything works well. You might want to
check the I2 multicast wg archives. Often, complex multicast
related problems are discussed there first. I don't remember
seeing or hearing of any major Juniper-to-L2switch issues, but
there has been at least one inter-domain problem recently. Usually
the problems are easily worked around or quickly fixed by one of
the interoperating vendors.

John

recommendation for switches to use with an M10 [ In reply to ]

kwong at masergy

Nov 25, 2002, 7:59 AM

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Kristoff [mailto:jtk@aharp.is-net.depaul.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 5:25 PM
> To: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] recommendation for switches to use with an M10
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 03:03:41PM -0500, Georgi Kostov wrote:
> > link via an M10 Juniper router (over single-mode fiber), and I need
to
> > get a GigE switch to use with it that is supposed to avoid some
> > problems with multicasting that some switches have supposedly been
> > having when hooked-up to Juniper routers. And in general, I'd be
> > interested to hear of any recommendations for a line of GigE and
10/100
> > switches that we can standardize on, here, as well as for vendors to
> > use. I have been looking at Extreme and Foundry so far.
>

Regarding Extreme, be sure to run 6.2.2 on Black Diamonds. We
experienced an issue with igmp snooping going back to 6.1.7.
Periodically, the igmp snooping table would disappear for a very brief
time - measured between .2 - .3 ms. Things would magically return into
the igmp snooping tables. During this interval, multicast packets were
dropped. Depending on your application, this duration might be so short
that you will have to be looking for the loss to detect it.

Magically, this was fixed in 6.2.2. Interim releases still had this
issue and release notes doesn't mention any igmp fixes, but we've seen
this issue clear up in 6.2.2.

> I think you'll find most anything works well. You might want to
> check the I2 multicast wg archives. Often, complex multicast
> related problems are discussed there first. I don't remember
> seeing or hearing of any major Juniper-to-L2switch issues, but
> there has been at least one inter-domain problem recently. Usually
> the problems are easily worked around or quickly fixed by one of
> the interoperating vendors.
>
> John
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