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LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
j.roth@dnb.de
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>i
Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume
> has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
>
> but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see
> the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
>
> Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.
>
>
>
> What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the
> Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
>
> is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the
> Toasters can help…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.dei
>
> _______________________________________________
> Toasters mailing list
> Toasters@teaparty.net
> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
>
>
AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
j.roth@dnb.de
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>i

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Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance?
Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:

> NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Cc:* toasters@teaparty.net
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> What version of data ontap?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume
> has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
>
> but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see
> the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
>
> Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.
>
>
>
> What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the
> Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
>
> is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the
> Toasters can help…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.dei
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Toasters mailing list
> Toasters@teaparty.net
> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
>
>
>
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>
>
AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
j.roth@dnb.de
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>i

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Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> this had be the path:
>
>
>
> /vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1
>
>
>
> But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.
>
>
>
> Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN
> (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
>
> CLI and GUI shows the same…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13
>
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Cc:* toasters@teaparty.net
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance?
> Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Cc:* toasters@teaparty.net
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> What version of data ontap?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume
> has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
>
> but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see
> the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
>
> Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.
>
>
>
> What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the
> Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
>
> is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the
> Toasters can help…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.dei
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Toasters mailing list
> Toasters@teaparty.net
> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Toasters mailing list
> Toasters@teaparty.net
> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://www.teaparty.net/mailman/listinfo/toasters
>
>
AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Same result…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
j.roth@dnb.de
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>i

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AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Hi Mike,

is this a 7-mode command? Because i cant set –i, it will set to –instanc… !!!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
j.roth@dnb.de
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 16:42
An: Roth, Jürgen
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

I had a full LUN "disappear" once with similar symptoms as you're seeing - although of course it couldn't be mounted by the host but the space was still being used by the LUN in the volume and aggregate. It was an Exchange LUN that was completely full during an upgrade. When the filer rebooted, the LUN couldn't register when the controller came back up. NetApp Support ran some commands in diag mode that at least showed the LUN still existed.

You might try this to get some visibility into the LUNs:

> priv set diag
> lun show -i <lun_path>


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Same result…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
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AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Hi Mike,

sorry, but the „-i“ switch doesn´t appear…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 17:32
An: Roth, Jürgen
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Yes, this filer was running 8.1.2 7-mode and upgraded to 8.2.2. The -i option should be available in diag mode for a "lun show"

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hi Mike,

is this a 7-mode command? Because i cant set –i, it will set to –instanc… !!!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
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Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com<mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 16:42
An: Roth, Jürgen

Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

I had a full LUN "disappear" once with similar symptoms as you're seeing - although of course it couldn't be mounted by the host but the space was still being used by the LUN in the volume and aggregate. It was an Exchange LUN that was completely full during an upgrade. When the filer rebooted, the LUN couldn't register when the controller came back up. NetApp Support ran some commands in diag mode that at least showed the LUN still existed.

You might try this to get some visibility into the LUNs:

> priv set diag
> lun show -i <lun_path>


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Same result…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
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Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
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Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Hello all,

can nobody help me?!?! Ist magic ☺

the following thing is:

Kernel shows show lun command as pending.
LUN disappeared. Server is able to access the LUN, but neither ONTAP CLI nor GUI show the LUN.

Output of lun stale-map show:
lun stale-map show -instance

Vserver UUID: e69abde6-ef44-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac
Volume MSID: 2147485180
Vdisk ID: 800005fc0000000000000000000000600df2216f
Vserver: dnbf-nc-svmfc01
Volume Name: v_fc_rdm_adhoc1
Node: dnbf-nc02
Igroup List: 6a0edaf0-f87a-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac

FAS8060 cDOT Release 8.3P1
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
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Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 17:32
An: Roth, Jürgen
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Yes, this filer was running 8.1.2 7-mode and upgraded to 8.2.2. The -i option should be available in diag mode for a "lun show"

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hi Mike,

is this a 7-mode command? Because i cant set –i, it will set to –instanc… !!!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com<mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 16:42
An: Roth, Jürgen

Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

I had a full LUN "disappear" once with similar symptoms as you're seeing - although of course it couldn't be mounted by the host but the space was still being used by the LUN in the volume and aggregate. It was an Exchange LUN that was completely full during an upgrade. When the filer rebooted, the LUN couldn't register when the controller came back up. NetApp Support ran some commands in diag mode that at least showed the LUN still existed.

You might try this to get some visibility into the LUNs:

> priv set diag
> lun show -i <lun_path>


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Same result…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Sorry, I've run out of ideas and haven't ever seen anything like this. I
would recommend opening a case with Netapp.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> can nobody help me?!?! Ist magic J
>
>
>
> the following thing is:
>
>
>
> Kernel shows show lun command as pending.
>
> LUN disappeared. Server is able to access the LUN, but neither ONTAP CLI
> nor GUI show the LUN.
>
>
>
> Output of lun stale-map show:
>
> lun stale-map show -instance
>
>
>
> Vserver UUID: e69abde6-ef44-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac
>
> Volume MSID: 2147485180
>
> Vdisk ID: 800005fc0000000000000000000000600df2216f
>
> Vserver: dnbf-nc-svmfc01
>
> Volume Name: v_fc_rdm_adhoc1
>
> Node: dnbf-nc02
>
> Igroup List: 6a0edaf0-f87a-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac
>
>
>
> FAS8060 cDOT Release 8.3P1
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 17:32
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> Yes, this filer was running 8.1.2 7-mode and upgraded to 8.2.2. The -i
> option should be available in diag mode for a "lun show"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
>
>
> is this a 7-mode command? Because i cant set –i, it will set to –instanc…
> !!!
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 16:42
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
>
>
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> I had a full LUN "disappear" once with similar symptoms as you're seeing -
> although of course it couldn't be mounted by the host but the space was
> still being used by the LUN in the volume and aggregate. It was an Exchange
> LUN that was completely full during an upgrade. When the filer rebooted,
> the LUN couldn't register when the controller came back up. NetApp Support
> ran some commands in diag mode that at least showed the LUN still existed.
>
>
>
> You might try this to get some visibility into the LUNs:
>
>
>
> > priv set diag
>
> > lun show -i <lun_path>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> Same result…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22
>
>
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Cc:* toasters@teaparty.net
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume
> v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> this had be the path:
>
>
>
> /vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1
>
>
>
> But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.
>
>
>
> Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN
> (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
>
> CLI and GUI shows the same…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
> Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
> Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
> http://www.dnb.de
>
>
>
> *Von:* Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13
>
>
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Cc:* toasters@teaparty.net
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance?
> Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
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>
> j.roth@dnb.de
>
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>
> *Von:* Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
> *An:* Roth, Jürgen
> *Cc:* toasters@teaparty.net
> *Betreff:* Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible
>
>
>
> What version of data ontap?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume
> has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
>
> but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see
> the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
>
> Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.
>
>
>
> What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the
> Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
>
> is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the
> Toasters can help…
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Jürgen Roth
>
> --
>
> Jürgen Roth
> Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
> Informationstechnik
> Adickesallee 1
> D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
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RE: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Definitely open a case. The only things I can think of trying to fix this issue are diag level commands that should only be run with support guidance.

From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Basil
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 7:40 AM
To: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
Subject: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Sorry, I've run out of ideas and haven't ever seen anything like this. I would recommend opening a case with Netapp.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello all,

can nobody help me?!?! Ist magic ☺

the following thing is:

Kernel shows show lun command as pending.
LUN disappeared. Server is able to access the LUN, but neither ONTAP CLI nor GUI show the LUN.

Output of lun stale-map show:
lun stale-map show -instance

Vserver UUID: e69abde6-ef44-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac
Volume MSID: 2147485180<tel:2147485180>
Vdisk ID: 800005fc0000000000000000000000600df2216f
Vserver: dnbf-nc-svmfc01
Volume Name: v_fc_rdm_adhoc1
Node: dnbf-nc02
Igroup List: 6a0edaf0-f87a-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac

FAS8060 cDOT Release 8.3P1
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
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Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com<mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 17:32
An: Roth, Jürgen
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Yes, this filer was running 8.1.2 7-mode and upgraded to 8.2.2. The -i option should be available in diag mode for a "lun show"

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hi Mike,

is this a 7-mode command? Because i cant set –i, it will set to –instanc… !!!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com<mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 16:42
An: Roth, Jürgen

Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

I had a full LUN "disappear" once with similar symptoms as you're seeing - although of course it couldn't be mounted by the host but the space was still being used by the LUN in the volume and aggregate. It was an Exchange LUN that was completely full during an upgrade. When the filer rebooted, the LUN couldn't register when the controller came back up. NetApp Support ran some commands in diag mode that at least showed the LUN still existed.

You might try this to get some visibility into the LUNs:

> priv set diag
> lun show -i <lun_path>


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Same result…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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AW: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible [ In reply to ]
Thanx all – i opened a case…

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799
j.roth@dnb.de
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Parisi, Justin [mailto:Justin.Parisi@netapp.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. März 2016 15:32
An: Basil; Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net
Betreff: RE: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Definitely open a case. The only things I can think of trying to fix this issue are diag level commands that should only be run with support guidance.

From: toasters-bounces@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net> [mailto:toasters-bounces@teaparty.net] On Behalf Of Basil
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 7:40 AM
To: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Subject: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Sorry, I've run out of ideas and haven't ever seen anything like this. I would recommend opening a case with Netapp.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello all,

can nobody help me?!?! Ist magic ☺

the following thing is:

Kernel shows show lun command as pending.
LUN disappeared. Server is able to access the LUN, but neither ONTAP CLI nor GUI show the LUN.

Output of lun stale-map show:
lun stale-map show -instance

Vserver UUID: e69abde6-ef44-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac
Volume MSID: 2147485180<tel:2147485180>
Vdisk ID: 800005fc0000000000000000000000600df2216f
Vserver: dnbf-nc-svmfc01
Volume Name: v_fc_rdm_adhoc1
Node: dnbf-nc02
Igroup List: 6a0edaf0-f87a-11e4-b711-00a0986641ac

FAS8060 cDOT Release 8.3P1
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com<mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 17:32
An: Roth, Jürgen
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Yes, this filer was running 8.1.2 7-mode and upgraded to 8.2.2. The -i option should be available in diag mode for a "lun show"

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hi Mike,

is this a 7-mode command? Because i cant set –i, it will set to –instanc… !!!
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Mike Brown [mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com<mailto:michael.b.brown3@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 16:42
An: Roth, Jürgen

Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

I had a full LUN "disappear" once with similar symptoms as you're seeing - although of course it couldn't be mounted by the host but the space was still being used by the LUN in the volume and aggregate. It was an Exchange LUN that was completely full during an upgrade. When the filer rebooted, the LUN couldn't register when the controller came back up. NetApp Support ran some commands in diag mode that at least showed the LUN still existed.

You might try this to get some visibility into the LUNs:

> priv set diag
> lun show -i <lun_path>


On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Same result…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2016 14:22

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you do the command without the path, but with a -volume v_fc_rdm_adhoc1?

On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

this had be the path:

/vol/v_fc_rdm_adhoc1/l_fc_rdm_adhoc1

But the command returned: There are no entries matching your query.

Only the Volume (v_fc_rdm_adhoc1) is there without the LUN (l_fc_rdm_adhoc1) – thats the problem.
CLI and GUI shows the same…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 23:13

An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

Can you enter the command lun show -vserver xyz -path xyz -instance? Replace xyz with the name of the vserver and the path to the lun.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 10:37 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
NetApp Release 8.3P1 cDOT

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
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Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
j.roth@dnb.de<http://j.roth@dnb.de>
http://www.dnb.de<http://www.dnb.de/>

Von: Basil [mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com<mailto:basilberntsen@gmail.com>]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2016 13:17
An: Roth, Jürgen
Cc: toasters@teaparty.net<mailto:toasters@teaparty.net>
Betreff: Re: LUN invisible in Volume - stale Mode - recovery possible

What version of data ontap?

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 6:01 AM, Roth, Jürgen <J.Roth@dnb.de<mailto:J.Roth@dnb.de>> wrote:
Hello,

we have a LUN that is suddenly „invisible“ by our Netapp Filer. The Volume has the Capacity oft he LUN – thats seem OK,
but the LUN is missing. The Host (it is a ESX with a Windows Server) see the LUN and ist mapped to the Windows
Server and in the Server the volume has a letter and can handle files.

What can we do, so the LUN is back and visible. The LUN is not in the Systemmanager and not in the CLI. In the Volume
is a file that seems the LUN, but someway is called „stale“. I wish the Toasters can help…
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Jürgen Roth
--
Jürgen Roth
Deutsche Nationalbibliothek
Informationstechnik
Adickesallee 1
D-60322 Frankfurt am Main
Telefon: +49-69-1525-1764<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1764>
Telefax: +49-69-1525-1799<tel:%2B49-69-1525-1799>
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