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Got this message to me directly as well as through the list.

@6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your
marketing purposes. This is complete garbage. I'll be sending a message
directly to kar@6by7.net as well.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <
ben@6by7.net> wrote:

>
>
> *A letter from the CEO of 6x7: 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority
> of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet routers.*
>
> Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you an update
> on me and the company.
>
> Through our adjunct division, 6x7 just received type approval from the
> Kenyan government to import core routers capable of over 8tbps (8 terrabits
> per second). This will enable us to enter the Kenyan IP transit and
> transport markets, and service both datacenter and soon office buildings
> and eventually residences with high speed, safe, secure global fiber
> connectivity. The market in Kenya is severely impacted now due to limited
> fiber availability, and 6x7 will leverage it's undersea connections to
> bring more wholesale bandwidth into the area, creating the economy by which
> we expect to grow.
> Thanks for reading, I'll be doing a regular set of these newsletters, and
> if you like them or want to reach out, please contact us at kar@6by7.net!
> -LB
> Ms. Lady Benjamin Cannon, ASCE.
> Find Out More
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> high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity

More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber connectivity'
is? As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?

Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable at
throat-level across roads or something?

Freaking marketing droids.

-A

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Got this message to me directly as well as through the list.
>
> @6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your
> marketing purposes. This is complete garbage. I'll be sending a message
> directly to kar@6by7.net as well.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <
> ben@6by7.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> *A letter from the CEO of 6x7: 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority
>> of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet routers.*
>>
>> Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you an
>> update on me and the company.
>>
>> Through our adjunct division, 6x7 just received type approval from the
>> Kenyan government to import core routers capable of over 8tbps (8 terrabits
>> per second). This will enable us to enter the Kenyan IP transit and
>> transport markets, and service both datacenter and soon office buildings
>> and eventually residences with high speed, safe, secure global fiber
>> connectivity. The market in Kenya is severely impacted now due to limited
>> fiber availability, and 6x7 will leverage it's undersea connections to
>> bring more wholesale bandwidth into the area, creating the economy by which
>> we expect to grow.
>> Thanks for reading, I'll be doing a regular set of these newsletters, and
>> if you like them or want to reach out, please contact us at kar@6by7.net!
>> -LB
>> Ms. Lady Benjamin Cannon, ASCE.
>> Find Out More
>> <https://6x7networks.us19.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6fbc79e84e5db9abf437b9601&id=bbe4d4273c&e=f2fa5478c3>
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>> *Copyright © 2020 6x7 Networks, LLC, All rights reserved.*
>> You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website.
>>
>> *Our mailing address is:*
>> 6x7 Networks, LLC
>> 44 montgomery st
>> suite 2310
>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>
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>

I’m sure the implication that “safe, secure” refers to less susceptibility to eavesdropping. But of course fiber can still be tapped trivially with angle-of-incidence intercept taps.

-mel

On Nov 20, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:

?
> high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity

More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber connectivity' is? As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?

Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable at throat-level across roads or something?

Freaking marketing droids.

-A

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Got this message to me directly as well as through the list.

@6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your marketing purposes. This is complete garbage. I'll be sending a message directly to kar@6by7.net<mailto:kar@6by7.net> as well.

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <ben@6by7.net<mailto:ben@6by7.net>> wrote:
[X]
A letter from the CEO of 6x7:

6x7 Networks and Communications Authority of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet routers.
[X]

Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you an update on me and the company.

Through our adjunct division, 6x7 just received type approval from the Kenyan government to import core routers capable of over 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). This will enable us to enter the Kenyan IP transit and transport markets, and service both datacenter and soon office buildings and eventually residences with high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity. The market in Kenya is severely impacted now due to limited fiber availability, and 6x7 will leverage it's undersea connections to bring more wholesale bandwidth into the area, creating the economy by which we expect to grow.

Thanks for reading, I'll be doing a regular set of these newsletters, and if you like them or want to reach out, please contact us at kar@6by7.net<mailto:kar@6by7.net>!

-LB
Ms. Lady Benjamin Cannon, ASCE.
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When I saw the 'lady ben cannon' I thought we were about to be the lucky
recipient of a large sum of money left by a prince, I'm fairly disappointed
now.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 3:09 PM Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
wrote:

> > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity
>
> More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber
> connectivity' is? As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?
>
> Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable at
> throat-level across roads or something?
>
> Freaking marketing droids.
>
> -A
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Got this message to me directly as well as through the list.
>>
>> @6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your
>> marketing purposes. This is complete garbage. I'll be sending a message
>> directly to kar@6by7.net as well.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <
>> ben@6by7.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *A letter from the CEO of 6x7: 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority
>>> of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet routers.*
>>>
>>> Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you an
>>> update on me and the company.
>>>
>>> Through our adjunct division, 6x7 just received type approval from the
>>> Kenyan government to import core routers capable of over 8tbps (8 terrabits
>>> per second). This will enable us to enter the Kenyan IP transit and
>>> transport markets, and service both datacenter and soon office buildings
>>> and eventually residences with high speed, safe, secure global fiber
>>> connectivity. The market in Kenya is severely impacted now due to limited
>>> fiber availability, and 6x7 will leverage it's undersea connections to
>>> bring more wholesale bandwidth into the area, creating the economy by which
>>> we expect to grow.
>>> Thanks for reading, I'll be doing a regular set of these newsletters,
>>> and if you like them or want to reach out, please contact us at
>>> kar@6by7.net!
>>> -LB
>>> Ms. Lady Benjamin Cannon, ASCE.
>>> Find Out More
>>> <https://6x7networks.us19.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6fbc79e84e5db9abf437b9601&id=bbe4d4273c&e=f2fa5478c3>
>>> [image: Facebook]
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>>> *Copyright © 2020 6x7 Networks, LLC, All rights reserved.*
>>> You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website.
>>>
>>> *Our mailing address is:*
>>> 6x7 Networks, LLC
>>> 44 montgomery st
>>> suite 2310
>>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>>
>>> Add us to your address book
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>>>
>>

Hi all, we never intended to spam the list, that was a total screw-up on our part, one I take full responsibility for. A list of exclusions got included. Please accept my sincere apologies.

Our key differentiator is that we encrypt our backbone links. All of ‘em. So we say we’re another layer to get through in a security policy. Idea being your data are marginally safer with us than being blasted in the clear.

Again, sorry for including the list in our list like total nimrods.

—L.B.

Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
ben@6by7.net <mailto:ben@6by7.net>
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted global telecommunications company in the world.”
FCC License KJ6FJJ



> On Nov 20, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
>
> I’m sure the implication that “safe, secure” refers to less susceptibility to eavesdropping. But of course fiber can still be tapped trivially with angle-of-incidence intercept taps.
>
> -mel
>
>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity
>>
>> More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber connectivity' is? As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?
>>
>> Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable at throat-level across roads or something?
>>
>> Freaking marketing droids.
>>
>> -A
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
>> Got this message to me directly as well as through the list.
>>
>> @6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your marketing purposes. This is complete garbage. I'll be sending a message directly to kar@6by7.net <mailto:kar@6by7.net> as well.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <ben@6by7.net <mailto:ben@6by7.net>> wrote:
>>
>> A letter from the CEO of 6x7:
>>
>> 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority of Kenya announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet routers.
>>
>> Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you an update on me and the company.
>>
>> Through our adjunct division, 6x7 just received type approval from the Kenyan government to import core routers capable of over 8tbps (8 terrabits per second). This will enable us to enter the Kenyan IP transit and transport markets, and service both datacenter and soon office buildings and eventually residences with high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity. The market in Kenya is severely impacted now due to limited fiber availability, and 6x7 will leverage it's undersea connections to bring more wholesale bandwidth into the area, creating the economy by which we expect to grow.
>>
>> Thanks for reading, I'll be doing a regular set of these newsletters, and if you like them or want to reach out, please contact us at kar@6by7.net <mailto:kar@6by7.net>!
>>
>> -LB
>> Ms. Lady Benjamin Cannon, ASCE.
>> Find Out More
>> <https://6x7networks.us19.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6fbc79e84e5db9abf437b9601&id=bbe4d4273c&e=f2fa5478c3>
>> <https://6x7networks.us19.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6fbc79e84e5db9abf437b9601&id=46c94e71a4&e=f2fa5478c3>
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>> Copyright © 2020 6x7 Networks, LLC, All rights reserved.
>> You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website.
>>
>> Our mailing address is:
>> 6x7 Networks, LLC
>> 44 montgomery st
>> suite 2310
>> San Francisco, CA 94104
>>
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On 2020-11-20 6:06 p.m., Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote:
> > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity
>
> More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber
> connectivity' is?  As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?
>
> Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable
> at throat-level across roads or something?
>
> Freaking marketing droids.
>
> -A

Other providers don't account for the effects of photonic friction and
the resulting generation of heat in their fiber lines.  This has
resulted in at least one documented case of spontaneous combustion
resulting in damage to fiber lines[1].

6x7 controls for photonic friction by utilizing its proprietary SPAM
(Specified Photonic Agitation Moderation) technology.

[1]  Uncle Cletus (1993)  Mind control, spontaneous combustion and other
extraterrestrial phenoma. /Lecture at Billy-Sue's house./

All,

Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on
purpose.

I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it. Relax...

-Matt

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 4:34 PM Peter Kristolaitis <alter3d@alter3d.ca>
wrote:

> On 2020-11-20 6:06 p.m., Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote:
>
> > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity
>
> More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber
> connectivity' is? As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?
>
> Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable at
> throat-level across roads or something?
>
> Freaking marketing droids.
>
> -A
>
> Other providers don't account for the effects of photonic friction and the
> resulting generation of heat in their fiber lines. This has resulted in at
> least one documented case of spontaneous combustion resulting in damage to
> fiber lines[1].
>
> 6x7 controls for photonic friction by utilizing its proprietary SPAM
> (Specified Photonic Agitation Moderation) technology.
>
> [1] Uncle Cletus (1993) Mind control, spontaneous combustion and other
> extraterrestrial phenoma. *Lecture at Billy-Sue's house.*
>


--
Matt Erculiani
ERCUL-ARIN

On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote:
> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on
> purpose.

How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/
add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full
header personalization?

This *REALLY* seems like a blatant scrape of -- now I have a good idea
-- the NANOG mailing list.

I for one have black listed 6x7 on all email servers that I have
administrative control over.

> I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it.     Relax...

I don't know. I think it was far more intentional than accidental.



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

It was also spammed to other lists as well...

-Mike

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 16:45, Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>
> ?On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote:
>> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on purpose.
>
> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full header personalization?
>
> This *REALLY* seems like a blatant scrape of -- now I have a good idea -- the NANOG mailing list.
>
> I for one have black listed 6x7 on all email servers that I have administrative control over.
>
>> I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it. Relax...
>
> I don't know. I think it was far more intentional than accidental.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020, Grant Taylor via NANOG wrote:
> On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote:
>> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on
>> purpose.
> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ add
> them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full header
> personalization?

accidentally on purpose.

-Dan

> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/
> add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full
> header personalization?

All mass-mail systems I'm aware of offer to scrape your own contacts when
you first sign up. Anyone who has ever started or replied to a Nanog thread
is in everyone else's contact list, including the list address itself.

I don't think the list was scraped, Ben's contacts were. One implies
malice, the other, a lack of foresight.

Ben is active enough here to know one would be crucified and/or humiliated
for scraping the list, both were the case here.

-Matt



On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:44 PM Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
wrote:

> On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote:
> > Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on
> > purpose.
>
> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/
> add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full
> header personalization?
>
> This *REALLY* seems like a blatant scrape of -- now I have a good idea
> -- the NANOG mailing list.
>
> I for one have black listed 6x7 on all email servers that I have
> administrative control over.
>
> > I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it. Relax...
>
> I don't know. I think it was far more intentional than accidental.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>
>

--
Matt Erculiani
ERCUL-ARIN

Once upon a time, Matt Erculiani <merculiani@gmail.com> said:
> All mass-mail systems I'm aware of offer to scrape your own contacts when
> you first sign up.

Really? Mailchimp scrapes your contacts to spam as "opt-in"? If you
can show that's true, then Mailchimp needs to be blocked as spammers.

My experience with Mailchimp though requires you to submit addresses for
a list, so spam like this is purely intentional.
--
Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net>

Apparently, Ben didn’t use “safe and secure” fiber lines for his emails :)

-mel

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
>
> ?On 11/20/20 4:41 PM, Matt Erculiani wrote:
>> Ben is fairly regular on this list and I can't imagine she did this on purpose.
>
> How does one /accidentally/ harvest email addresses and /accidentally/ add them to a Mailchimp list and /accidentally/ send emails with full header personalization?
>
> This *REALLY* seems like a blatant scrape of -- now I have a good idea -- the NANOG mailing list.
>
> I for one have black listed 6x7 on all email servers that I have administrative control over.
>
>> I'm sure she'll see this thread and fix it. Relax...
>
> I don't know. I think it was far more intentional than accidental.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
>

Oh dear, what will poor Kenya ever do :-)...

Mark.

On 11/21/20 00:22, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Got this message to me directly as well as through the list.
>
> @6x7 this list is *NOT* to be scrapped for email addresses for your
> marketing purposes.  This is complete garbage.  I'll be sending a
> message directly to kar@6by7.net <mailto:kar@6by7.net> as well.
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
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>
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 5:19 PM 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO
> <ben@6by7.net <mailto:ben@6by7.net>> wrote:
>
>
> /A letter from the CEO of 6x7:
>
> 6x7 Networks and Communications Authority of Kenya
> announce type approval to import 8tbps/second internet
> routers./
>
>
>
> Hi, Lady Benjamin from 6x7 here, and I'm proud to share with you
> an update on me and the company.
>
> Through our adjunct division, 6x7 just received type approval from
> the Kenyan government to import core routers capable of over 8tbps
> (8 terrabits per second).  This will enable us to enter the Kenyan
> IP transit and transport markets, and service both datacenter and
> soon office buildings and eventually residences with high speed,
> safe, secure global fiber connectivity. The market in Kenya is
> severely impacted now due to limited fiber availability, and 6x7
> will leverage it's undersea connections to bring more wholesale
> bandwidth into the area, creating the economy by which we expect
> to grow.
>
>
> Thanks for reading, I'll be doing a regular set of these
> newsletters, and if you like them or want to reach out,
> please contact us at kar@6by7.net <mailto:kar@6by7.net>!
>
>
> -LB
> Ms. Lady Benjamin Cannon, ASCE.
>
>
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On 11/21/20 01:06, Aaron C. de Bruyn via NANOG wrote:

> > high speed, safe, secure global fiber connectivity
>
> More importantly, can someone tell me what 'safe global fiber
> connectivity' is?  As opposed to 'unsafe global fiber connectivity'?
>
> Do these guys have the market cornered on not string fiber optic cable
> at throat-level across roads or something?
>
> Freaking marketing droids.

Clearly the target is non-African customers with Africa on a to-do list...

This, I want to see...

Mark.

On 11/21/20 01:20, Mel Beckman wrote:

> I’m sure the implication that “safe, secure” refers to less
> susceptibility to eavesdropping. But of course fiber can still be
> tapped trivially with angle-of-incidence intercept taps.

I think the implication was some measure of superiority compared to
existing operators, for anyone who signs texts based on how many buzz
words are in the schpill.

Mark.

> Our key differentiator is that we encrypt our backbone links.

care to give detail of the tech used?

randy

On 11/20/20 4:27 PM, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote:
> Hi all, we never intended to spam the list, that was a total screw-up on
> our part, one I take full responsibility for.   A list of exclusions got
> included.   Please accept my sincere apologies.
...
> Again, sorry for including the list in our list like total nimrods.

Mistakes happen.

Thank you for the overview of what happened.

In my (not so) humble opinion, polite overviews go a long way to
smoothing feathers.

#learningOpportunity



--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

On 2020-11-20, at 23:18, 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <ben@6by7.net> wrote:
>
> 8tbps (8 terrabits per second).

Competence signaling: technical competence very low.

I don’t expect the majority of nanog people to know the intended data rate would properly be notated as 8 Tbit/s, but a space after the number, an upper case T, and not confusing Tera (SI prefix for 1 Trillion) with Terra (earth), is about the minimum I would expect from a technical person.

With that, we return to the regular spam bashing.

Grüße, Carsten

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 10:37 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> On 2020-11-20, at 23:18, 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <ben@6by7.net> wrote:
> > 8tbps (8 terrabits per second).
> I don’t expect the majority of nanog people to know the intended data rate would properly be notated as 8 Tbit/s, but a space after the number, an upper case T, and not confusing Tera (SI prefix for 1 Trillion) with Terra (earth), is about the minimum I would expect from a technical person.

Hi Carsten,

You must be talking the "new" comm-speak because "bps" has been the
conventional abbreviation for "bits per second" since at least the
modem days of the 1980s with the "thousands" modifier typically
offered lower case so as not to distract from or be confused with the
digits: kbps, mbps, gbps, tbps. The lack of a space between the digits
and letters also follows convention.

There's nothing wrong with saying "8 Tbit/s" instead. It's just as
clear and no one sensible cares. But complaining about others using
the normal convention frankly makes you look like a doofus.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

On 2020-11-23, at 08:09, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 10:37 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
>> On 2020-11-20, at 23:18, 6x7 Networks - Lady Benjamin, CEO <ben@6by7.net> wrote:
>>> 8tbps (8 terrabits per second).
>> I don’t expect the majority of nanog people to know the intended data rate would properly be notated as 8 Tbit/s, but a space after the number, an upper case T, and not confusing Tera (SI prefix for 1 Trillion) with Terra (earth), is about the minimum I would expect from a technical person.
>
> Hi Carsten,
>
> You must be talking the "new" comm-speak because "bps" has been the
> conventional abbreviation for "bits per second" since at least the
> modem days of the 1980s with the "thousands" modifier typically
> offered lower case so as not to distract from or be confused with the
> digits: kbps, mbps, gbps, tbps. The lack of a space between the digits
> and letters also follows convention.
>
> There's nothing wrong with saying "8 Tbit/s" instead. It's just as
> clear and no one sensible cares. But complaining about others using
> the normal convention frankly makes you look like a doofus.

Sure, and the speed of vehicles is measured in kph (and probably frequencies in cps, or in this space more likely kilomegacycles).

I didn’t complain about anything.

I just noted the very low technical competence signaled by this usage in the press release (what pushed me over the edge was of course the “terra”). Competence signaling is often inadvertent, and it can be very useful for the recipient of a message.

To keep with the side-track you opened:

I wouldn't complain about Tbps, because I know it’s the vernacular, and maybe I shouldn’t have mentioned the correct scientific notation, because even much of the science in this space is written up in vernacular.

I work with networks that offer a sustained data rate of 2-200 mbit/s (yes, millibit per seconds), so I really can’t find a lot of value in using the wrong case for the prefixes. You don’t easily find a press release with “tbps” (well, maybe with tbsp, table spoons). If it rocks your boat, nobody will stop you from writing that way, and the trade press in UK/AU really seems to like that (did I say anything about competence signaling yet?).

I know most people here don’t care (because they don’t have to(*), literally), but there are standards for these things, and there are reasons for the way that they have turned out to be. If you want to taste a little treatise from engineers who do care (because their job is building things that measure), you can look up https://u.nu/correct-units .

Can we now return to spam-bashing?

Grüße, Carsten

(*) I apologize for this little pun. Or, maybe we are the phone company now?

I've been looking at some deployments in areas with sketchy political forces and I was looking to use MACsec.




-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

----- Original Message -----

From: "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com>
To: "Lady Benjamin PD Cannon" <ben@6by7.net>
Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:14:14 PM
Subject: Re: A letter from the CEO

> Our key differentiator is that we encrypt our backbone links.

care to give detail of the tech used?

randy

On 11/23/20 09:52, Carsten Bormann wrote:

> I know most people here don’t care (because they don’t have to(*), literally), but there are standards for these things, and there are reasons for the way that they have turned out to be. If you want to taste a little treatise from engineers who do care (because their job is building things that measure), you can look up https://u.nu/correct-units .

Given that Tbps is still relatively uncommon in many operator networks,
it's not uncommon to hear people say Megabit and Gigabit with no
problem, but say Terabyte when referring to Terabit, as well.

That one does get to me, but I'm often boozed up on enough wine to care :-).

Mark.

On 11/23/20 14:40, Mike Hammett wrote:

> I've been looking at some deployments in areas with sketchy political
> forces and I was looking to use MACsec.

How underwhelming :-)...

Mark.