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This seems like very good news. I am quite skeptical this can be accomplished per the provided numbers though.

> On Nov 2, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
>
> $127.1 million in funding over 10 years covering more than 1.2 million locations

Seems you could do something with Wireless much easier, guaranteeing access
to speed of +/- 300mbits by using the CBAND spectrum that is coming
available. Why run wires to the home at all?

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 11:22 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:

>
> FCC Announces All Of Puerto Rico To Have Access To High-Speed Broadband
> Service As A Result Of Uniendo A Puerto Rico Fund
>
> Nearly a Third of Locations Will Get Speeds of At Least 1 Gbps with All
> Other Locations Getting Speeds of At Least 100 Mbps
>
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-usf-support-high-speed-broadband-puerto-rico
>
> WASHINGTON, November 2, 2020—The Federal Communications Commission’s
> Wireline Competition Bureau today announced that funding through Stage 2
> of the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Fund will result in all locations in Puerto
> Rico having access to fixed broadband service
> with speeds of at least 100 Mbps. And nearly one-third of those locations
> will have access to fixed broadband service with speeds of at least 1
> Gbps.
>
> Two winning applicants in the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Stage 2 Competitive
> Process submitted bids for $127.1 million in funding over 10 years
> covering more than 1.2 million locations through a competitive process
> that awarded support for fixed voice and broadband services based on the
> weighting of price and network performance, including speed, latency,
> usage allowance, and resiliency. Liberty Communications has committed to
> offering service to over 914,000 locations, and Puerto Rico Telephone
> Company will offer service to over 308,000 locations.
>

Skeptical about the timing and scoping of the project.

Joe Klein

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 11:48 AM Brandon Svec <bsvec@teamonesolutions.com>
wrote:

> This seems like very good news. I am quite skeptical this can be
> accomplished per the provided numbers though.
>
> > On Nov 2, 2020, at 8:24 AM, Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:
> >
> > $127.1 million in funding over 10 years covering more than 1.2 million
> locations
>

Maybe it is for wireless. That would be more likely with those numbers, but still quite unbelievable.

My company does low voltage cabling. We charge more than $100 per drop to provide CAT6 in a newly constructed office building. It would be impossible to provide wires to 1.2 million locations across PR for $100/each.

Brandon

> On Nov 2, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Seems you could do something with Wireless much easier, guaranteeing access to speed of +/- 300mbits by using the CBAND spectrum that is coming available. Why run wires to the home at all?

I would guess the dollar numbers represent the amount that they are
receiving in incentives and not the total cost of construction.

Shane

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 11:58 AM Brandon Svec <bsvec@teamonesolutions.com>
wrote:

> Maybe it *is* for wireless. That would be more likely with those numbers,
> but still quite unbelievable.
>
> My company does low voltage cabling. We charge more than $100 per drop to
> provide CAT6 in a newly constructed office building. It would be impossible
> to provide wires to 1.2 million locations across PR for $100/each.
>
> Brandon
>
> On Nov 2, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Shane Ronan <shane@ronan-online.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> Seems you could do something with Wireless much easier,
> guaranteeing access to speed of +/- 300mbits by using the CBAND spectrum
> that is coming available. Why run wires to the home at all?
>
>

No WISP's just the local CLEC and cable company. Given the terrain in PR a
wireless delivery application might suit best.

On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 11:23 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:

>
> FCC Announces All Of Puerto Rico To Have Access To High-Speed Broadband
> Service As A Result Of Uniendo A Puerto Rico Fund
>
> Nearly a Third of Locations Will Get Speeds of At Least 1 Gbps with All
> Other Locations Getting Speeds of At Least 100 Mbps
>
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-usf-support-high-speed-broadband-puerto-rico
>
> WASHINGTON, November 2, 2020—The Federal Communications Commission’s
> Wireline Competition Bureau today announced that funding through Stage 2
> of the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Fund will result in all locations in Puerto
> Rico having access to fixed broadband service
> with speeds of at least 100 Mbps. And nearly one-third of those locations
> will have access to fixed broadband service with speeds of at least 1
> Gbps.
>
> Two winning applicants in the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Stage 2 Competitive
> Process submitted bids for $127.1 million in funding over 10 years
> covering more than 1.2 million locations through a competitive process
> that awarded support for fixed voice and broadband services based on the
> weighting of price and network performance, including speed, latency,
> usage allowance, and resiliency. Liberty Communications has committed to
> offering service to over 914,000 locations, and Puerto Rico Telephone
> Company will offer service to over 308,000 locations.
>

The press release doesn't reference at all, but Aeronet (the largest WISP
in Puerto Rico, and an operator of gigabit class service in MDUs) has been
testing Facebook/Terragraph 802.11ay 60 GHz based, point to multipoint last
mile stuff for a while now. Very short range, high speed, high capacity.

They use it in addition to a number of licensed band and 71-86 GHz PTP
links.

https://www.peeringdb.com/net/20459

Various 802.11ay based PtMP solutions are about to hit the market from 4 or
5 different competing vendors.





On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 8:22 AM Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com> wrote:

>
> FCC Announces All Of Puerto Rico To Have Access To High-Speed Broadband
> Service As A Result Of Uniendo A Puerto Rico Fund
>
> Nearly a Third of Locations Will Get Speeds of At Least 1 Gbps with All
> Other Locations Getting Speeds of At Least 100 Mbps
>
>
> https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-usf-support-high-speed-broadband-puerto-rico
>
> WASHINGTON, November 2, 2020—The Federal Communications Commission’s
> Wireline Competition Bureau today announced that funding through Stage 2
> of the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Fund will result in all locations in Puerto
> Rico having access to fixed broadband service
> with speeds of at least 100 Mbps. And nearly one-third of those locations
> will have access to fixed broadband service with speeds of at least 1
> Gbps.
>
> Two winning applicants in the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Stage 2 Competitive
> Process submitted bids for $127.1 million in funding over 10 years
> covering more than 1.2 million locations through a competitive process
> that awarded support for fixed voice and broadband services based on the
> weighting of price and network performance, including speed, latency,
> usage allowance, and resiliency. Liberty Communications has committed to
> offering service to over 914,000 locations, and Puerto Rico Telephone
> Company will offer service to over 308,000 locations.
>

WISPs really are best to accommodate these kinds of needs, but Washington has a hard time understanding bang for the buck.




-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jorge Santiago" <jscnetworks@gmail.com>
To: "Sean Donelan" <sean@donelan.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, November 2, 2020 12:24:47 PM
Subject: Re: FCC Announces All Of Puerto Rico To Have Access To High-Speed Broadband Service


No WISP's just the local CLEC and cable company. Given the terrain in PR a wireless delivery application might suit best.



On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 11:23 AM Sean Donelan < sean@donelan.com > wrote:



FCC Announces All Of Puerto Rico To Have Access To High-Speed Broadband
Service As A Result Of Uniendo A Puerto Rico Fund

Nearly a Third of Locations Will Get Speeds of At Least 1 Gbps with All
Other Locations Getting Speeds of At Least 100 Mbps

https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-announces-usf-support-high-speed-broadband-puerto-rico

WASHINGTON, November 2, 2020—The Federal Communications Commission’s
Wireline Competition Bureau today announced that funding through Stage 2
of the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Fund will result in all locations in Puerto
Rico having access to fixed broadband service
with speeds of at least 100 Mbps. And nearly one-third of those locations
will have access to fixed broadband service with speeds of at least 1
Gbps.

Two winning applicants in the Uniendo a Puerto Rico Stage 2 Competitive
Process submitted bids for $127.1 million in funding over 10 years
covering more than 1.2 million locations through a competitive process
that awarded support for fixed voice and broadband services based on the
weighting of price and network performance, including speed, latency,
usage allowance, and resiliency. Liberty Communications has committed to
offering service to over 914,000 locations, and Puerto Rico Telephone
Company will offer service to over 308,000 locations.