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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:52:41 +0100, you wrote:

>I've recently upgraded from 0.25 to 0.32 and I'm really missing the
>'Anytime on this Channel' recording option. It seems it was removed in
>0.27?
>
>I've discovered the 'This Channel' filter option but to use that I've
>either got to set it in the default template or else edit every record rule
>as I create it. I don't think I want it as the default but I use it
>enough to find setting the filter each time a bit of a faff.
>
>I could create a Power Search, though my first attempt resulted in a
>recording rule for every program on the channel. I deleted the power
>search but that didn't remove the several dozen record schedules it had
>created. I had to delete them one by one - is that how it's supposed to
>work. I'm sure I can get Power Searches working, but that seems even more
>effort.
>
>Is there a way to get back the One-Click 'Anytime on this Channel' and
>Anytime on any Channel' options?
>
>D

No, that option is still there in usable form, but things have been
moved around a fair bit. If you read the release notes for the
version where the change happened, it tells you what was done. As you
have discovered, to create a "this channel only" rule the full way of
doing it is to go through the menus while editing a rule to Schedule
Options > Schedule filters. Then select the "This channel" filter.
There are too many filters for them to all be on screen at once in my
theme (MythCenter-wide), so to find that option I use the up arrow
twice as it is second from the bottom of the list. Since the "This
channel" filter is used so often, there is also a shortcut menu for it
when creating a new rule. This was added by request from quite a
number of people shortly after all those changes happened, due to
exactly the problem you have outlined. On an entry in the Programme
Guide, hit Enter (or OK on the remote) to bring up the menu, then
select "Record all showings (this channel)". To get "Any time on any
channel", select "Record all showings" without the "(this channel)"
bit.

The things that have really changed are daily/weekly recordings. These
can now only be done by using the "Custom Edit" menu item to create a
Power Search rule. The Power Search rules still have the daily and
weekly options.

I do not know how you managed to get multiple rules you had to delete,
as creating a Power Search rule creates a single rule of a different
type where the "description" field is used to store SQL that is used
match against the EPG data. To see what upcoming recordings any rule
is creating, go to the rule or a recording made from that rule and use
the O key on the keyboard to get the matching list. I suspect that
you had actually created multiple Power Search rules - the way you
create them is not exactly obvious and if you select the wrong button
multiple times you will get multiple rules. If that problem should
happen again, go to Manage Recordings > Recording Rules and use Ctrl-S
to search for the name of your problem rule. You may find multiple
matches on that name.
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 at 14:18, Stephen Worthington <stephen_agent@jsw.gen.nz>
wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:52:41 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >I've recently upgraded from 0.25 to 0.32 and I'm really missing the
> >'Anytime on this Channel' recording option. It seems it was removed in
> >0.27?
> >
> >I've discovered the 'This Channel' filter option but to use that I've
> >either got to set it in the default template or else edit every record
> rule
> >as I create it. I don't think I want it as the default but I use it
> >enough to find setting the filter each time a bit of a faff.
> >
> >I could create a Power Search, though my first attempt resulted in a
> >recording rule for every program on the channel. I deleted the power
> >search but that didn't remove the several dozen record schedules it had
> >created. I had to delete them one by one - is that how it's supposed to
> >work. I'm sure I can get Power Searches working, but that seems even more
> >effort.
> >
> >Is there a way to get back the One-Click 'Anytime on this Channel' and
> >Anytime on any Channel' options?
> >
> >D
>
> No, that option is still there in usable form, but things have been
> moved around a fair bit. If you read the release notes for the
> version where the change happened, it tells you what was done. As you
> have discovered, to create a "this channel only" rule the full way of
> doing it is to go through the menus while editing a rule to Schedule
> Options > Schedule filters. Then select the "This channel" filter.
> There are too many filters for them to all be on screen at once in my
> theme (MythCenter-wide), so to find that option I use the up arrow
> twice as it is second from the bottom of the list. Since the "This
> channel" filter is used so often, there is also a shortcut menu for it
> when creating a new rule. This was added by request from quite a
> number of people shortly after all those changes happened, due to
> exactly the problem you have outlined. On an entry in the Programme
> Guide, hit Enter (or OK on the remote) to bring up the menu, then
> select "Record all showings (this channel)". To get "Any time on any
> channel", select "Record all showings" without the "(this channel)"
> bit.
>
> The things that have really changed are daily/weekly recordings. These
> can now only be done by using the "Custom Edit" menu item to create a
> Power Search rule. The Power Search rules still have the daily and
> weekly options.
>
> I do not know how you managed to get multiple rules you had to delete,
> as creating a Power Search rule creates a single rule of a different
> type where the "description" field is used to store SQL that is used
> match against the EPG data. To see what upcoming recordings any rule
> is creating, go to the rule or a recording made from that rule and use
> the O key on the keyboard to get the matching list. I suspect that
> you had actually created multiple Power Search rules - the way you
> create them is not exactly obvious and if you select the wrong button
> multiple times you will get multiple rules. If that problem should
> happen again, go to Manage Recordings > Recording Rules and use Ctrl-S
> to search for the name of your problem rule. You may find multiple
> matches on that name.
>
>
Thanks Stephen,

Your detailed reply makes me feel guilty for not working that out myself.
I can't believe I missed seeing that menu option.

I think when I saw the new menu for the first time I just went straight to
the 'Edit Recording Options' screen to get the menu I was used to from 0.25.

...and then, when I couldn't see it in mythweb I started to wonder.

users eh!

I don't know what I did with the Power Search either. I may try and
recreate it. I did create several searches but only three I think - not
dozens.

I think maybe that rather than deleting one of the power searches I set it
to 'do not record'.

Thanks again,

D