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I have to tell ya, when something comes into my mailbox with no subject
and all mime-encoded w/o other content, it gets deleted pretty fast.

Hope someone else read it and helped you.

On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:14:05AM -0700, Mike Riley wrote:
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Lan Barnes wrote:

> I have to tell ya, when something comes into my mailbox with no subject
> and all mime-encoded w/o other content, it gets deleted pretty fast.
>
> Hope someone else read it and helped you.

Problem is that the message likely didn't actually originate from Mike
Riley, but someone on the list likely got bit :)

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:01:12PM -0500, Christopher Maahs wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Lan Barnes wrote:
>
> > I have to tell ya, when something comes into my mailbox with no subject
> > and all mime-encoded w/o other content, it gets deleted pretty fast.
> >
> > Hope someone else read it and helped you.
>
> Problem is that the message likely didn't actually originate from Mike
> Riley, but someone on the list likely got bit :)
>
> ~cj
>

... as in Mike's (presumably Outlook) machine has a virus? My
condolences if that's the case. I've been linux-only so long, I've
forgotten what it's like.

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
You know if someone were to do a HowTo on setting up
an IR Blaster to work with Myth, I would kiss them.
Guy

--- "Pace, Jonathan" <JPace@belo.com> wrote:
> perhaps this is better directed to a lircd list, but
> since this may be a
> large user base with the same hardware as i, here
> goes...
>
> i've got a pvr250 and myth is working like a champ,
> including the remote and
> ir receiver that come with the hauppauge card. now
> i'm wanting to get an
> irblaster to control my cable box (so i can include
> premium channels and
> such in my myth television watching goodness), but
> after reading the docs,
> i'm getting the impression that i can use the ir
> receiver _or_ an ir
> blaster/transmitter, but not both, since they
> require compiling lircd with
> different options in the setup.sh and both probably
> rely on /dev/lirc.
> anybody using both? anyone using the Actisys
> IR-200L ir blaster with a
> general instruments cable box that uses an ATT 200B
> remote (neither of which
> appear to have .conf files in lirc/remotes)?
>
> jwp
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RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
London Drugs seemed to be ok for me (Vancouver). Not a bad price either.
Otherwise, mail order may be your friend ;)

Emlyn

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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org]On Behalf Of ext James Nikolich
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 6:01 AM
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Subject: [mythtv-users] (no subject)


Hello all;

Hauppauge PVR-250 PCI cards seem to be the tuner-of-choice, from what I've been
reading in this forum. I'm looking to replace my AverMedia TVStudio with a
PVR-250 (or perhaps even two of them), but they seem to be in rather short
supply here in Toronto, Ont. CANADA.

Can anybody advise on where I might be able to find these things locally? For
those familiar with the Toronto scene, I've prowled all the stores in the
College / Spadina stretch... No joy. AlbertWhite out in Mississauga lists
them, but they're on a 5-week backorder (WTH?!?!?)

TIA,

Jim

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RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
I'd definetly be willing to help.
I made an offer to Murrant also to mirror his tikiwiki pages. Because he's
on slow bandwith as it seems.

M10K is a good platform to work on. Only getting it all to work properly
takes time... Very much time.
Øyvind, 1 little tip. What I got from the rest. Run xfree-4.3.99.14.ebuild
or higher or your video signal would be bugged. Still have to test it when I
get back from work tonight, but for now it's compiling ;)


Jelle.



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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Øyvind Repvik
Sent: dinsdag 2 december 2003 14:06
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] (no subject)

This might be kinda OT, but I'll send it anyways...


I've got a M10K as well. I'm running Gentoo on it. I haven't gotten as far
as setting up mythtv on it yet though... Too busy building the case :)
(http://gallery.repvik.org/)

I've considered setting up a "special interest list" though... For people
running Gentoo on M10K and trying to set up MythTV. There seems to be a few
of us :)

I know there's a lot of M10K and MythTV here, and there's a bit about M10K
and gentoo over at blade 5, but I can't find any site that has MythTV on
Gentoo on M10K :) (And seemingly, a few people seem to have problems with
just this).

I have a domain, and I can set up a mailinglist/phpBB, if there is an
interest for this. (Not meaning to steal from the MythTV list, though)

If anyone is interested in helping out, have tips/tricks/hints/howtos/links,
ANYTHING, I'd be grateful.

MythTV seems to be great, although I haven't tried it yet :P M10K is great,
although I haven't tried hardware decoding yet :P Gentoo is great. :)

Øyvind


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RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
There are more of us.... ;-)

Have tried to get RH9 to work, but it wont work..

Rasmus

On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 14:31, Jelle Kalf wrote:
> I'd definetly be willing to help.
> I made an offer to Murrant also to mirror his tikiwiki pages. Because he's
> on slow bandwith as it seems.
>
> M10K is a good platform to work on. Only getting it all to work properly
> takes time... Very much time.
> Øyvind, 1 little tip. What I got from the rest. Run xfree-4.3.99.14.ebuild
> or higher or your video signal would be bugged. Still have to test it when I
> get back from work tonight, but for now it's compiling ;)
>
>
> Jelle.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Øyvind Repvik
> Sent: dinsdag 2 december 2003 14:06
> To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
> Subject: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
>
> This might be kinda OT, but I'll send it anyways...
>
>
> I've got a M10K as well. I'm running Gentoo on it. I haven't gotten as far
> as setting up mythtv on it yet though... Too busy building the case :)
> (http://gallery.repvik.org/)
>
> I've considered setting up a "special interest list" though... For people
> running Gentoo on M10K and trying to set up MythTV. There seems to be a few
> of us :)
>
> I know there's a lot of M10K and MythTV here, and there's a bit about M10K
> and gentoo over at blade 5, but I can't find any site that has MythTV on
> Gentoo on M10K :) (And seemingly, a few people seem to have problems with
> just this).
>
> I have a domain, and I can set up a mailinglist/phpBB, if there is an
> interest for this. (Not meaning to steal from the MythTV list, though)
>
> If anyone is interested in helping out, have tips/tricks/hints/howtos/links,
> ANYTHING, I'd be grateful.
>
> MythTV seems to be great, although I haven't tried it yet :P M10K is great,
> although I haven't tried hardware decoding yet :P Gentoo is great. :)
>
> Øyvind
>
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004, Ryan Pisani wrote:

> When I launch the tv-viewer in mythtv my whole system ends up locking up
> after I see a bunch of messages about /dev/dsp not loading.

Could be permissions - are you running myth as root? (if not, you should
be)

BTW, you might want to put a subject on future postings - most people scan
the subject lines for mails they are interested in or can help with, so a
lot of people won't even open your mail if you don't fill in the subject.

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Sounds like you've got either esd (esound daemon) or artsd running, and
it's locking /dev/dsp.. I ran into this problem as well, with similar
results.

This should solve it (as root):

killall artsd && killall esd && mythbackend&

mythfrontend

Optionally, run artsd using alsa drivers (so that audio is realtime),
and invoke mythfrontend using the arts wrapper:

artsdsp mythfrontend;

Hope this helps..
Aaron


On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 12:25, Ryan Pisani wrote:
> All,
>
> I have just installed the current version of mythTV on RedHat 9,
> and I'm having problems loading the sound module.
> The device appears to be there, but I get no sound on Xawtv or Tvtime when
> I test it. I can however get sound from playing an avi, or mp3 file.
> When I launch the tv-viewer in mythtv my whole system ends up locking up
> after I see a bunch of messages about /dev/dsp not loading.
>
> Any idea's?
>
> Dmesg output:
>
> i2c-proc.o version 2.8.2 (20031211)
> i2c-core.o: i2c core module version 2.8.2 (20031211)
> Linux video capture interface: v1.00
> bttv: driver version 0.9.12 loaded
> bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
> bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
> PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:09.0
> PCI: Sharing IRQ 9 with 00:09.1
> bttv0: Bt878 (rev 2) at 00:09.0, irq: 9, latency: 32, mmio: 0xe3002000
> bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10], PCI subsystem ID is 0070:13eb
> bttv0: using: Hauppauge (bt878) [card=10,autodetected]
> bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffdb [init]
> bttv0: Hauppauge/Voodoo msp34xx: reset line init [5]
> bttv0: Hauppauge eeprom: model=61381, tuner=Temic 4039FR5 (21), radio=yes
> bttv0: using tuner=21
> bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... found
> msp34xx: init: chip=MSP3430G-A1 +nicam +simple +radio
> msp3410: daemon started
> bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found
> bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
> tvaudio: TV audio decoder + audio/video mux driver
> tvaudio: known chips:
> tda9840,tda9873h,tda9874h/a,tda9850,tda9855,tea6300,tea642
> 0,tda8425,pic16c54 (PV951),ta8874z
> tuner: chip found @ 0xc2
> tuner: type set to 21 (Temic NTSC (4039 FR5))
> bttv0: registered device video0
> bttv0: registered device vbi0
> bttv0: registered device radio0
> bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok
> bttv0: PLL can sleep, using XTAL (28636363).
> parport0: PC-style at 0x378 [PCSPP,EPP]
> parport_pc: Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378
> lp0: using parport0 (polling).
> lp0: console ready
> 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 nvidia.o Kernel Module 1.0-4496 Wed
> Jul 16
> 19:03:09 PDT 2003
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan Pisani
>
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Jamison Ables wrote:

> Alright I'm getting ready to build my transmitter, like this one.
> http://www.lirc.org/images/simple_transmitter.gif I have a serial
> cable already to got and I'm going 2 pull my power off the computer
You don't need to pull power from the computer power supply with the
simple circuit.
> power supply. My question is as follows, I know that the "DTR" is the
> 4 pin on a serial but what goes at the other end? Also I have a few
The other pin is ground, pin 5.
> 4.7K ohm resistors so do u think that would work or should i stick
> them in series? (I have 5v and 12v) Finally is an IR LED from a tv
One 4.7k ohm resister should be plenty. In fact it might be to much.
> remote alright? Thanks Jamison
The ir led from a remote should work fine.

-dan
RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Cody,

I had the same symptoms but with on board GF4 on board video. The
following fixed it for me.

On the Settings/TV Settings/Playback:
Enable Jitter Reduction and Extra Audio Buffering -> Rid me of the
choppy playback
Enable Deinterlace Playback -> Rid me of the vertical lines.

Hope this works for you!

Eric

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[mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org] On Behalf Of Cody Walker
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:26 AM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] (no subject)

So I got the pvr-350 video out working. only problem is there are lines
all
up and down the screen.. the screen chops along.. And sound sometimes
lags..
the iamge looks horrible.. what could be wrong?
RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
<SNIP>

>
> We have 2 tv's, primary downstairs, and secondary upstairs.
> In getting the output to both tv's, I've come up with a
> couple of options, but I'm leaning towards running about 50'
> of rca cable to the downstairs receiver. Since I have two
> soundcards, I should be able to dedicate one to myth, and one
> to pc audio.
> I hope. Of course I'm worried about the quality of the video
> after such a long run. Would I be better off with svideo over
> such a distance, with an svideo->composite adapter at the end?
>

Seeing as your talking about running cables, have you seen
http://www.kat5.tv/index1.html
Might be useful for you.

Greg
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Thursday 27 May 2004 14:39, Mark Andrachek, Jr. wrote:
> Greetings. For quite some time now I've been thinking about
> building my own PVR, and my recent experiences with comcast,
> and the need to save a little money have been pushing me
> harder and harder in that direction. Cutting ~40/month for
> digital cable + PVR, should pay for itself pretty quickly.

Welcome!

Just for future reference, don't start a new thread by replying to a
message. It ends up burying your message inside the existing thread,
so anybody not reading that thread might ignore your message! (Plus
some people get annoyed...)

> I'm not a newbie to pvr's, linux, or video,

That's definitely a plus...

> but I am a
> a complete and total myth n00b. I've been very impressed
> by the screenshots, as well as the level of community
> support and involvement of this project.
>
> I've had my wife using Linux for about the past 3 months,
> and she's hooked.

Wish I could say the same...

> I can't get her off shishen-sho (kde
> game). :) I've been given permission to fully convert
> our machine to Linux, and since she and our 3 month old
> went to visit his grandparents for the week... I've got
> room and time to make a mess and geek out - a 3 day
> weekend no-less!
>
> So, I picked up a pvr-250 and got the hardware installed
> and functioning under 'doze last night, and I've got a few
> questions before I go any further.
>
> The machine is a 1.4 Ghz Athlon, 512 Mb RAM 2x120Gb seagate
> 7200 drives, on-motherboard audio, sb live! pci, geforce2
> with composite out, and a dvd drive. And the PVR-250 of
> course.
>
> The computer is, and will continue to be on the second
> floor of our townhouse, and will still need to be used
> for light word processing, email. Oh, and Shishen-Sho,
>
> :)
>
> We have 2 tv's, primary downstairs, and secondary upstairs.
> In getting the output to both tv's, I've come up with a couple
> of options, but I'm leaning towards running about 50' of rca
> cable to the downstairs receiver. Since I have two soundcards,
> I should be able to dedicate one to myth, and one to pc audio.
> I hope. Of course I'm worried about the quality of the video
> after such a long run. Would I be better off with svideo
> over such a distance, with an svideo->composite adapter at
> the end?

Heh... well, first of all, you might run into dual-head or Xinerama
issues, hopefully nothing unsolveable. You might want to search the
archives for more specifics. Also, some video cards (don't know if the
GF2 is one) only support Xv scaling on the first head, meaning that to
get Xv on your TV-out you'd have to set up the VGA as a mirror display;
not what you want. Like I said, search the archives & ask around;
there are quite a number of people with GF2s, so odds are you should be
OK there.

As far as the cabling goes, S-Video is always better, but I don't know
if you can go 50' with it. A couple of people have reported success
doing this on the list, IIRC. Of course, you'd still have to run RCA
cable for the sound, I guess.

>
> For the tv in the upstairs bedroom, I've got an xbox that's
> pretty much just collecting dust that I can network and
> set up as the frontend. With this setup would the xbox
> be able to watch live tv? Or would I need to run coax in
> for that?

You'll be able to watch LiveTV on the Xbox as long as the tuner isn't
busy recording something else, or someone isn't using it for LiveTV
downstairs. You can only encode 1 stream at a time per tuner, and
Recording & LiveTV are equivalent in that respect -- LiveTV is just
recording & watching at the same time, for a simple view.

>
> I had thought about getting a UHF transmitter like this:
> http://www.accessorywarehouse.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&S
>tore_Code=AWI&Product_Code=501015&Category_Code= That would allow any
> tv within 300' to tune in, but I don't
> think it's stereo, don't know how good the reception would
> be, and I don't know if I want my neighbors to be able to
> know my viewing habits. ;) Still, a neat bit of kit.
>
> Lastly we come to the issue of control. With the PC
> upstairs, and the output down, I'm wondering if a
> 50' audio extension cable would work to extend the
> length of the IR receiver that was bundled with the
> pvr-250... has anyone ever tried it? I already have
> 2 learning universal remotes that can easily learn
> the hauppage remote. Should I bite the bullet and
> get a remote extender? Would it even work with
> 802.11g, 2 2.4Ghz cordless phones, and a 2.4 Ghz
> baby monitor? Recommendations?

Don't know about RF interference issues. You could run some serial
cable along with your A/V cables. You might be able to use CAT-3 or
CAT-5 wire, using DB-9 (serial)<->CAT-3/5 adapters at either end.
Again, it's been done, so search the list archives.


Good luck!

-JAC
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> So, I picked up a pvr-250 and got the hardware installed
> and functioning under 'doze last night, and I've got a few
> questions before I go any further.
Hopefully it's not a weird one that's marginally supported. I haven't
been paying too much attention to these threads, but apparently there are a few
revisions that are troublesome... something to be prepared for.

>
> The machine is a 1.4 Ghz Athlon, 512 Mb RAM 2x120Gb seagate
> 7200 drives, on-motherboard audio, sb live! pci, geforce2
> with composite out, and a dvd drive. And the PVR-250 of
> course.
For use with the PVR-250, perfectly fine machine specs.

> We have 2 tv's, primary downstairs, and secondary upstairs.
> In getting the output to both tv's, I've come up with a couple
> of options, but I'm leaning towards running about 50' of rca
> cable to the downstairs receiver. Since I have two soundcards,
> I should be able to dedicate one to myth, and one to pc audio.
> I hope.
That should be doable, but will require some tweaking.

Of course I'm worried about the quality of the video
> after such a long run. Would I be better off with svideo
> over such a distance, with an svideo->composite adapter at
> the end?
The biggest issue with this is whether you are talking baseband or
modulated video. IIRC, baseband signal is not AGC'd and has a specified
output voltage level (0.7 Vrms into 75 Ohms). That means that on a long run,
as the voltage drops, the contrast and saturation will decrease. Fifty feet
shouldn't be too bad, but will definately cause problems if poor quality cable
(either lossy or poor matching impedance). I'm assuming you will send the
audio over dedicated wires then?
If you run modulated video, it's another quality loss, but more
traditional as far as getting signal over longer distances. As you found out,
audio is a problem with this solution, as encoding stereo is currently fairly
expensive. Mono is *easy*, and that's what you get with the $15 Wal-mart "DVD
RF Modulator."

>
> For the tv in the upstairs bedroom, I've got an xbox that's
> pretty much just collecting dust that I can network and
> set up as the frontend. With this setup would the xbox
> be able to watch live tv? Or would I need to run coax in
> for that?
I have not run linux or mythtv on the x-box, but alegedly it works
pretty well. I don't even know that much about them, but my understanding is
that they've got onboard video/audio (of course), ethernet, and an IR port? If
it works as well as some people claim, I would seriously consider running a
single ethernet cable the 50' distance between the master box and downstairs.
A frontend is basically half a mythtv box that can play videos (or
recordings) over the network. Use the x-box as the frontend... needs nothing
more than the ethernet cable (and of course the additional complexity of
getting linux/mythtv on the xbox and setting up a multiple mythtvbox
frontend/backend).

>
> I had thought about getting a UHF transmitter like this:
> http://www.accessorywarehouse.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AWI&Product_Code=501015&Category_Code=
> That would allow any tv within 300' to tune in, but I don't
> think it's stereo, don't know how good the reception would
> be, and I don't know if I want my neighbors to be able to
> know my viewing habits. ;) Still, a neat bit of kit.
>
> Lastly we come to the issue of control. With the PC
> upstairs, and the output down, I'm wondering if a
> 50' audio extension cable would work to extend the
> length of the IR receiver that was bundled with the
> pvr-250... has anyone ever tried it? I already have
> 2 learning universal remotes that can easily learn
> the hauppage remote. Should I bite the bullet and
> get a remote extender? Would it even work with
> 802.11g, 2 2.4Ghz cordless phones, and a 2.4 Ghz
> baby monitor? Recommendations?
If you've got IR on the xbox, you won't need an extender. Also, for
further note, setting up the IR part of mythtv doesn't require a universal
remote. It can be taught to pretty much interpret any remote... map the keys
however you like. An old DirecTV or Tivo remote is great for a mythtv PVR.

>
> I'm trying to keep this as inexpensive as I can, while
> maintaining the relative ease of use. The faster this
> pays for itself, the sooner I can convince the powers
> that be that adding a second tuner, more disk space,
> or other upgrades would be worthwhile.
>
Sounds like you've already got all the stuff you need to do it. The
xbox in the primary loop means it'll take awhile to get it all going.

-Cory


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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Pete Stagman wrote:

>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just installed the new nVidia driver using apt-get.
>
> When I tried to restart X, it failed. Here's what's in the
> XFree86.0.log file:
>
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
> DIA(0): Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "MetaModes" "800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480;"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TVOverScan" "0.6"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Forcing SVIDEO output
> (**) NVIDIA(0): Use of NVIDIA internal AGP requested
> (**) NVIDIA(0): TV Standard string: "NTSC-M"
> (**) NVIDIA(0): TwinView enabled
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF4000000
> (--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xEA000000
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
> (II) UnloadModule: "vgahw"
> (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
>
> The only attached monitor is my TV using SVideo. There is a configured
> NEC multisync in the Config which I used to originally install.
>
> I'm using Axel's kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl_48.rhfc1.at and installed
> the new driver using Jarod's recommended:
> # apt-get install kernel-module-nvidia-graphics6106-$MYKERNEL
> # apt-get install nvidia-graphics6106
>
> I had tried it with "RenderAccel" "1" and without and get the same error.
>
> I know I can always go back to the old driver that was working, but
> I'd rather move to the new one and get the best quality I can.
>
> Any ideas what's going on here? What other info would you like?
>
> --Pete
>
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Funny, that's the exact same error I get when trying to install the old
drivers (4363), as 6106 seems to be giving me trouble.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Trevor Hill wrote:

> Pete Stagman wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just installed the new nVidia driver using apt-get.
>>
>> When I tried to restart X, it failed. Here's what's in the
>> XFree86.0.log file:
>>
>> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
>> DIA(0): Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "MetaModes" "800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480;"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TVOverScan" "0.6"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): Forcing SVIDEO output
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): Use of NVIDIA internal AGP requested
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): TV Standard string: "NTSC-M"
>> (**) NVIDIA(0): TwinView enabled
>> (--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF4000000
>> (--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xEA000000
>> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
>> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
>> (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
>> (II) UnloadModule: "vgahw"
>> (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
>> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
>>
>> Fatal server error:
>> no screens found
>>
>> The only attached monitor is my TV using SVideo. There is a
>> configured NEC multisync in the Config which I used to originally
>> install.
>>
>> I'm using Axel's kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl_48.rhfc1.at and installed
>> the new driver using Jarod's recommended:
>> # apt-get install kernel-module-nvidia-graphics6106-$MYKERNEL
>> # apt-get install nvidia-graphics6106
>>
>> I had tried it with "RenderAccel" "1" and without and get the same
>> error.
>>
>> I know I can always go back to the old driver that was working, but
>> I'd rather move to the new one and get the best quality I can.
>>
>> Any ideas what's going on here? What other info would you like?
>>
>> --Pete
>>
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> Funny, that's the exact same error I get when trying to install the
> old drivers (4363), as 6106 seems to be giving me trouble.
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Heh, I discovered that apt didn't install the appropriate
kernel-module-nvidia-....-4363... package.
Installing it again manually fixed that right up.

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
At 01:31 PM 7/10/2004, you wrote:

>Trevor Hill wrote:
>
>>Pete Stagman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I just installed the new nVidia driver using apt-get.
>>>
>>>When I tried to restart X, it failed. Here's what's in the XFree86.0.log
>>>file:
>>>
>>>(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
>>>DIA(0): Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "MetaModes" "800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480;"
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TVOverScan" "0.6"
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): Forcing SVIDEO output
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): Use of NVIDIA internal AGP requested
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): TV Standard string: "NTSC-M"
>>>(**) NVIDIA(0): TwinView enabled
>>>(--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF4000000
>>>(--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xEA000000
>>>(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!
>>>(EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting ***
>>>(II) UnloadModule: "nvidia"
>>>(II) UnloadModule: "vgahw"
>>>(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvgahw.a
>>>(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
>>>
>>>Fatal server error:
>>>no screens found
>>>
>>>The only attached monitor is my TV using SVideo. There is a configured
>>>NEC multisync in the Config which I used to originally install.
>>>
>>>I'm using Axel's kernel 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl_48.rhfc1.at and installed the
>>>new driver using Jarod's recommended:
>>># apt-get install kernel-module-nvidia-graphics6106-$MYKERNEL
>>># apt-get install nvidia-graphics6106
>>>
>>>I had tried it with "RenderAccel" "1" and without and get the same error.
>>>
>>>I know I can always go back to the old driver that was working, but I'd
>>>rather move to the new one and get the best quality I can.
>>>
>>>Any ideas what's going on here? What other info would you like?
>>>
>>>--Pete
>>>
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>>Funny, that's the exact same error I get when trying to install the old
>>drivers (4363), as 6106 seems to be giving me trouble.
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>>
>Heh, I discovered that apt didn't install the appropriate
>kernel-module-nvidia-....-4363... package.
>Installing it again manually fixed that right up.
Yep, I installed manually and all is well.

--Pete



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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:08, Chris Brodie wrote:
> First post here...

>
> -Leadtek Winfast 2000XP. Leadtek site says it does encoding in a
> roundabout way. This card was exceeding cheap so I REALLY want to make
> sure it does hardware encoding before I continue.
>

> Many thanks,
>
> Chris
Sorry Chris, I have the winfast deluxe and no it does not do hardware
encoding. It is a pretty good card for me but I would go for the PVR
250. I think you can get it from pcalcamy.com (someone posted that
earlier I don't know if that is correct) and it also showed up in
compusa's ad today for $79 with rebates, note this is MCE oem, different
card but still works.
Do your self a favor and spend the money on a PVR250 or 350 I wish I did
since I'm starting to make DVD's
HTH
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
>
> -Albatron KM-18g Motherboard. It has onboard Network, Video, TV, Audio
> (just AC97 but I only have TV speakers right now).

I have one, works well. I use the onboard video and audio (SPDIF, with
an optical header (didnt come with the board)). Board also supports
wake-on-rtc (I have myth shutdown, then turn back on 5min before it has
to record anything).

Dave
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
just to clairify, the one in the compusa add is actually not the MCE
oem, but the non-MCE 980.

I might spend a few extra bucks and get an athlon XP-M, that way it'll
be sure to run cool, and may even work better as well due to the cache
not being nerfed.

The hard dirve is the exact one I have, and am about to get another,
as it is totally silent (the northbirdge fan makes far more noise) and
is by far the fastest 7200 rpm drive I have ever used (PATA version.)

for IR, if you get a motherboard that doesn't have it's serial ports
in the back panel, but rather has pin headers for them to go in a pci
slot, say, then you could do what you want to do by wiring it to that.
the same goes for a usb header; you'd have to buy a usb ir reciever
that way, but it may be easier to find a mobo that has usb headers
than serial.

I too have the leadtek card, and can confirm that it is software
encoding. I just ordered a pvr 250, as I use this box for a lot, and
get skipping in my recordings if I, say, play ut2004 while somthing is
recording. However, if it's not a general purpose box, the image
quality is pretty decent.

-Nate

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 22:22:35 -0700, listman <listman@depfyffer.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-10-24 at 22:08, Chris Brodie wrote:
> > First post here...
>
> >
> > -Leadtek Winfast 2000XP. Leadtek site says it does encoding in a
> > roundabout way. This card was exceeding cheap so I REALLY want to make
> > sure it does hardware encoding before I continue.
> >
>
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> Sorry Chris, I have the winfast deluxe and no it does not do hardware
> encoding. It is a pretty good card for me but I would go for the PVR
> 250. I think you can get it from pcalcamy.com (someone posted that
> earlier I don't know if that is correct) and it also showed up in
> compusa's ad today for $79 with rebates, note this is MCE oem, different
> card but still works.
> Do your self a favor and spend the money on a PVR250 or 350 I wish I did
> since I'm starting to make DVD's
> HTH
>
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> I just purchased some new hardware and am building a MythTV box
> based on
> Jarod Wilson's HOWTO at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php.
> I've gotten
> to the portion of the HOWTO, after installing the ivtv stuff using
> apt-get,
> where I send a test signal to the TV-Out of the PVR-350. When I
> do that all
> I see on the TV is snow. I moved on to the next step to see if I
> couldrecord and view the signal coming in on my cable line into
> the FM connector
> and again all I got was snow.

Sounds like it is working. There is no "test pattern" AFAIK and your reception of "snow" indicated you are looking at the rf in connector of your card. My suggestion at this point is to continue with the myth install. Once compiled and installed you should be have complete control of your card and view/record something.

I never had much luck getting the card to output anything useful using the command line interface.
RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Well...once I realized I had the cabling all screwed up...duh...

So now I definitely am getting a signal on the TV-OUT. I get a test pattern
now when I run the 'saa7127 test_image=1'. Initially when I ran the saa7127
in normal mode all I got was the green screen, but I found a post mentioning
the need to change one of the registers (I think that's right)... So I did
that and now I get alternating white/pink diagonal stripes across the
screen. I believe I may need to apply the tuner patch from ivtv.no-ip.com
and have submitted a separate post on that issue.

Thanks,
Matt

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wmunson@rochester.rr.com [mailto:wmunson@rochester.rr.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 2:29 PM
> To: mr-mencel@wiu.edu; Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
>
> > I just purchased some new hardware and am building a MythTV
> box based
> > on Jarod Wilson's HOWTO at http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php.
> > I've gotten
> > to the portion of the HOWTO, after installing the ivtv stuff using
> > apt-get, where I send a test signal to the TV-Out of the PVR-350.
> > When I do that all I see on the TV is snow. I moved on to the next
> > step to see if I couldrecord and view the signal coming in
> on my cable
> > line into the FM connector and again all I got was snow.
>
> Sounds like it is working. There is no "test pattern" AFAIK
> and your reception of "snow" indicated you are looking at the
> rf in connector of your card. My suggestion at this point is
> to continue with the myth install. Once compiled and
> installed you should be have complete control of your card
> and view/record something.
>
> I never had much luck getting the card to output anything
> useful using the command line interface.
>
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Cook, Michael J. (Business Development) wrote:

> Is there any way to configure MythTV to use a Proxy for HTTP access? I
> am behind a firewall and a “direct” connection will not work for me.
>
>
If you're talkabout about the datadirect grabber, yes. It uses wget and
you need to set wget for proxy access. I know there is something in the
archive about this. Try searching for wget and proxy.

Kevin
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Cook, Michael J. (Business Development) wrote:
> Is there any way to configure MythTV to use a Proxy for HTTP access? I am
> behind a firewall and a "direct" connection will not work for me.

export HTTP_PROXY=http://proxyserver.com:port/
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
>>> tomsjunk@hammerdown.net 04/03/05 7:30 AM >>>
> I am building a PVR with a Hauppauge PVR-350, Mandrake 10.1, Maiku's

> guide
>
(http://www.byopvr.com/Sections+index-req-viewarticle-artid-13-page-1.html).
>

> Everything is installed/compiled and configured, but when I try to
watch
> TV or record something, all I ever get is static (even using the cat

> /dev/video0 > test.mpg). Every channel is the same...just static.
> Watching videos (from other sources) play just fine in both mplayer
> and mythtv.

Have you tried tvtime or one of the other tv apps outside of MythTV?
That may point you in the right direction. Have you tried feeding
the input of the 350 with a known good signal like the output from
a VCR or something similar?

> I've checked, rechecked, and triple checked all of the settings in
> mythtvsetup. Nothing changes anything.
>

<snip>

One item I noticed in there was that the input was being switched
to S-video. Do you have your input connected to s-video or
the coax out?

> I had everything running fine (tv was visible) with a different
> motherboard, but changed from a ATX-->mini-ATX to fit this
> in a smaller case. Formated and reinstalled with thenew
> motherboard, but have never had any luck getting the tv
> to work.
>
> Cable does work (checked it with a tv).
>
> Getting frustrated as I had this working; I'm out of ideas of
> what to check.

Don't get too frustrated. I am fighting with other problems,
but I've only taken 6 hours to fix my video problem after doing
an apt-get dist-upgrade only to discover I've got sound
problems. And I haven't even changed hardware...


> Checked this mailing list for similiar problems, but nothing
> mentioned in any of them seem to fix my problems. I actually
> don't see any problems in any logs/files, which makes fixing
> this that much harder.
>
>Any help would be appriciated.

Check your inputs. Is this the only frontend in the setup, or
do you have other frontends separate from this backend?

Paul
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
--- Jerry Danzinger <vipernightwolf85@hotmail.com>
wrote:
---------------------------------
I am looking to set my computer up with mythtv so I
can watch/record shows on my computer. The problem is
I am using Direct Tv's satellite service and i have
found no information on what tuner card to use, and
how to set it up. I was wondering if anyone else
sucessfully did this, and if they could help me out
with the hardware as well as setting it up after
getting the card.

-zonen-

My myth box is connected to my DirecTV box using the
s-video in of a hauppage freestyle (pvr250) works
fine. I have an IR Blaster that I bought from
http://www.mytvstore.com/product_id_005.html and use a
great perl script that I got from some guy named
William, I think you can get the script from the same
site. I went with the ir blaster because my DTV box
doesn't have the serial port.

Howard

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
I use twin Hauppauge NovaT PCIs on a Celeron 2.4Ghz, and there is CPU
space aplenty for recording TV on both cards, and watching a recording
at the same. They take very little CPU at all , its mainly the
playback (mpeg decoding) that has the cpu hit, but even then, I'm well
under <20% CPU usage. (Commerical flagging is an altogether different
question, I have that turned off!)

But do try and get at least 2 cards or you'll get scheduling conflicts
depressingly often, its worth the initial outlay, honest ;)
- Ciaran


On 26/09/05, Ben Edwards <Ben.Edwards@flybe.com> wrote:
>
> I'm new to this list but have thinking about building a MythTV box of a year
> or so. I've now started ordering bits (well a antec overture II case) and
> am planning on using a Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-t freeview PCI card and
> Ubuntu/512MB memory. As you can probably imagine, I have a few questions.
>
> Firstly what processor should I get. I had a AMD Sempron 3000+ to 3400+ in
> mind. What I was hoping on being able to do is allow the TV card to do the
> recording and have enough oomth in the CPU to be able to decode/play at the
> same time as recording or do I need two TV cards to do this. Being able to
> play and record at the same time is very important to me. How do I wire
> things up to record/play at the same time. If I had two cards would I have
> one wired to record an the other to play and do they have to be the same
> cards?
>
> Is the 'Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-t PCI card' a good choice or are there other
> freeview cards I should consider (freeview is the relatively new free to
> view TV service here in the UK). I am assuming here that I should go for a
> internal PCI card because I am not sure about compatibility with external
> USB cards although having a external card is better from the point of you of
> interference.
>
> Regards,
> Ben
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
>
> Firstly what processor should I get. I had a AMD Sempron 3000+ to 3400+ in
> mind.
>

If you have not planned to do HDTV, then these processors are overkill. I
use an AMD 1800+, which uses around 25% of its CPU when decoding to a
GeForce4 MX440.


What I was hoping on being able to do is allow the TV card to do the
> recording and have enough oomth in the CPU to be able to decode/play at the
> same time as recording or do I need two TV cards to do this.
>

If you want to record two shows at a time or if you want to watch live tv
while recording a second, then you need two TV cards. Otherwise you only
need one (I have only one).
Niels Dybdahl
RE: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
So from what you said it is no problem to record one show and watch a
pre-recorded one at the same time with one card (like you can with Tivo)?

Also what is the issue with CPU usage and burning to DVD, or is it best to
copy video files to another computer and do it there, I'me asumimg I will
need to transcode from freeview stream to a DVD compatable format and this
is going to max out cpu.

My other option is to use my current motherboard (P4 1.7) for my MythTV box
and replace my main system. Would this be up to it?

Regards,
Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Niels Dybdahl [mailto:Niels@Dybdahl.dk]
Sent: 26 September 2005 10:26
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] (no subject)



Firstly what processor should I get. I had a AMD Sempron 3000+ to 3400+ in
mind.


If you have not planned to do HDTV, then these processors are overkill. I
use an AMD 1800+, which uses around 25% of its CPU when decoding to a
GeForce4 MX440.




What I was hoping on being able to do is allow the TV card to do the
recording and have enough oomth in the CPU to be able to decode/play at the
same time as recording or do I need two TV cards to do this.


If you want to record two shows at a time or if you want to watch live tv
while recording a second, then you need two TV cards. Otherwise you only
need one (I have only one).

Niels Dybdahl

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 26/09/05, Ben Edwards <Ben.Edwards@flybe.com> wrote:
> I'm new to this list but have thinking about building a MythTV box of a year
> or so. I've now started ordering bits (well a antec overture II case) and
> am planning on using a Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-t freeview PCI card and
> Ubuntu/512MB memory. As you can probably imagine, I have a few questions.
>
> Firstly what processor should I get. I had a AMD Sempron 3000+ to 3400+ in
> mind. What I was hoping on being able to do is allow the TV card to do the
> recording and have enough oomth in the CPU to be able to decode/play at the
> same time as recording or do I need two TV cards to do this.

A single TV card will allow you to record while watching the programme
being recorded (with rewind, pause etc) or to watch any previously
made recording. What you won't be able to do is watch any other live
channel (because the tuner card will be locked to the channel being
recorded).

As far as CPU oomph goes. I have two Nova-t PCI cards in my box and
am able to record two channels while also watching, and I'm using an
AMD XP1400 CPU (1GHz Clock) so I don't think you'd have any problems
with any of today's CPUs.

> Being able to play and record at the same time is very important to me. How do I wire
> things up to record/play at the same time. If I had two cards would I have
> one wired to record an the other to play and do they have to be the same
> cards?

The NOVA-t PCI card writes the incoming mpeg stream to a file on your
hard disk. Multiple cards allow you to stream several channels to
disk simultaneously (1 per card)

Watching the programme requires a graphics card with TV out capability
and a sound card connected to amp/speakers. MythTV playback simply
streams one of the files on disk to the sound/video out.


>
> Is the 'Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-t PCI card' a good choice or are there other
> freeview cards I should consider (freeview is the relatively new free to
> view TV service here in the UK). I am assuming here that I should go for a
> internal PCI card because I am not sure about compatibility with external
> USB cards although having a external card is better from the point of you of
> interference.

I've never used a USB card, but the PCI cards were certainly easy to
setup. All I had to do was.

modprobe dvb-cx88

Everything else could be done from with Myth


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Watkins [mailto:watkinshome@gmail.com]
> Sent: 26 September 2005 10:43
> To: MythTV Users List
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
>
>
...

>
> The NOVA-t PCI card writes the incoming mpeg stream to a file on your
> hard disk. Multiple cards allow you to stream several channels to
> disk simultaneously (1 per card)
>
> Watching the programme requires a graphics card with TV out capability
> and a sound card connected to amp/speakers. MythTV playback simply
> streams one of the files on disk to the sound/video out.

Now I get it ;) So it is a graphics card with TV out connected to the TV, I
guess the TV outs on the TV cards are all daisy chained into the Graphics
card (with TV in/out). I did not realise I would need a graphics card with
TV out as well as the freeview cards. I thought the TV out on the freeview
card was used to connect to the TV. What TV out graphics card do you
recommend?

Regards
Ben

> > Is the 'Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-t PCI card' a good choice or
> are there other
> > freeview cards I should consider (freeview is the
> relatively new free to
> > view TV service here in the UK). I am assuming here that I
> should go for a
> > internal PCI card because I am not sure about compatibility
> with external
> > USB cards although having a external card is better from
> the point of you of
> > interference.
>
> I've never used a USB card, but the PCI cards were certainly easy to
> setup. All I had to do was.
>
> modprobe dvb-cx88
>
> Everything else could be done from with Myth
>
>
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>
> Now I get it ;) So it is a graphics card with TV out connected to the TV, I
> guess the TV outs on the TV cards are all daisy chained into the Graphics
> card (with TV in/out). I did not realise I would need a graphics card with
> TV out as well as the freeview cards. I thought the TV out on the freeview
> card was used to connect to the TV. What TV out graphics card do you
> recommend?
>

Hhmm. I'm not sure we're quite there yet.

There's no daisy chaining involved. I can't even remember a TV out on
the Nova-t card. If there is one then I think it's just a feed
through of the input single - to allow you to feed the input into a
second card.

No, the signal gets from your NOVA-t card to the graphics card via
your hard disk.

Step 1 Nova-T card creates a file on your hard disk.

Step 2 Play file using MythTV or other media playing software.

As regards choice of graphics card - Most people seem to be using
nVidia cards which, AFAIK all have S-Video outputs on them. I'm using
a MX440 which is fanless (quieter), 5200s also seem popular. If you
don't want to go gaming then you don't need a particularly recent card

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
The nova-t's don't have tv-outs, so no chaining required, they write
out mpeg files to the harddisk, and your gfx card has a tv-out on it.
I can't recommend one as one was built into the ASUS motherboard of
the pundit I opted for (one of the reasons I opted for a pundit ;) )
Cheers,
- Ciaran

On 26/09/05, Ben Edwards <Ben.Edwards@flybe.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Watkins [mailto:watkinshome@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 26 September 2005 10:43
> > To: MythTV Users List
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
> >
> >
> ...
>
> >
> > The NOVA-t PCI card writes the incoming mpeg stream to a file on your
> > hard disk. Multiple cards allow you to stream several channels to
> > disk simultaneously (1 per card)
> >
> > Watching the programme requires a graphics card with TV out capability
> > and a sound card connected to amp/speakers. MythTV playback simply
> > streams one of the files on disk to the sound/video out.
>
> Now I get it ;) So it is a graphics card with TV out connected to the TV, I
> guess the TV outs on the TV cards are all daisy chained into the Graphics
> card (with TV in/out). I did not realise I would need a graphics card with
> TV out as well as the freeview cards. I thought the TV out on the freeview
> card was used to connect to the TV. What TV out graphics card do you
> recommend?
>
> Regards
> Ben
>
> > > Is the 'Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-t PCI card' a good choice or
> > are there other
> > > freeview cards I should consider (freeview is the
> > relatively new free to
> > > view TV service here in the UK). I am assuming here that I
> > should go for a
> > > internal PCI card because I am not sure about compatibility
> > with external
> > > USB cards although having a external card is better from
> > the point of you of
> > > interference.
> >
> > I've never used a USB card, but the PCI cards were certainly easy to
> > setup. All I had to do was.
> >
> > modprobe dvb-cx88
> >
> > Everything else could be done from with Myth
> >
> >
> > Good Luck
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If noise is the problem, go to
www.silentpcreview.com<http://www.silentpcreview.com>they have lots of
information on quieting a loud case.

On 10/21/05, Mercury Morris <mercury.morris@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 10/21/05, michel moalem <mmoalem@mail2producer.com> wrote:
> >
> > hi there all
> > i'm a complete linux newbie and have tried the knopmyth cd yesterday for
> > the first time. I like what it offers but had some problems allready.
> > However before i will start takling the problems i encountered running some
> > of the options i would like to know if there is a way if running the mythtv
> > box (either under this distro or another) so that it boots much quicker. I
> > have tried GeeXBox as well and while it is short on many features compare to
> > mythtv it is booting extremly quickly once installed on the HD (well quick
> > enogh for my wife not to nag me about getting a dvd player instead...)
> > so please any advice?
> > cheers
> > michel
> >
>
> Others have suggested that you leave your system on all the time, and
> that's what I did as soon as I got the system up and running in daily
> recording.
>
> But it didn't take long to find that the noise of the computer bothered me
> when I read the paper, listened to the radio, and stuff like that. So, I
> installed nvram-wakeup. Once you have your MythTV system running more or
> less like the VCRs do (come on when it's time to record, record, then shut
> off), it's quite easy to specify how long in advance you want the machine to
> power on.
>
> I have mine set to three (3) minutes, but it could be set to anything (I
> think).
> So, if you know that you want to use your MythTV system around say, 5pm,
> you could set the various parameters and have the system power/boot up
> well in advance. When you sat down at 5pm, the machine would be up and
> running, waiting for whatever pleasure you have in mind.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Rajeev Goonewardene wrote:

> I have successfully got mythtv working and it works great - very
> impressed by the work, thank you Issac and Jarod for the great
> software and howtos. One small question, I have the PVR-350 card and
> I was wondering if I can get mplayer to play the DVD sound through
> the PVR350's audio out so I don't have to switch cables when watching
> a DVD. This also would be nice for any media I am playing through
> mplayer.

This is really a question for ivtv mailing lists.

TTBOMK, the only way to get audio from the PVR-350's audio out is to
decode MPEG-2 with the PVR-350's onboard decoder. (This used to be the
case, so unless something significant has changed in the last year...)

However, you wouldn't have to switch cables if you plugged in the cables
correctly:
PVR-350 out to soundcard in, then soundcard out to speakers or A/V
receiver. Then, configure sound card settings (search the lists for
configuration info).

Mike
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I have tried this. It is possible by using alsactl to capture the line out
and redirect. The problem is that the sound quality is very poor when you do
this. I beleive the artical on how to do this was on the myth wiki site. My
advice is not to try.

On 12/23/05, Rajeev Goonewardene <fedora@ready2think.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have successfully got mythtv working and it works great - very
> impressed by the work, thank you Issac and Jarod for the great
> software and howtos. One small question, I have the PVR-350 card and
> I was wondering if I can get mplayer to play the DVD sound through
> the PVR350's audio out so I don't have to switch cables when watching
> a DVD. This also would be nice for any media I am playing through
> mplayer.
>
> Any help would be really appreciated.
> Thanks,
>
> Rajeev.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
I thought I was having a problem when I first tried this, but it
turned out to be a lot of excess in/outputs turned on that didn't
need to be causing insane amounts of noise. I also didn't have my
capture level high enough so I was blasting my receiver to
compensate. Once I turned off anything I didn't need and adjusted the
levels, it was all good. I ended up only using Mic 1 for capture at
100, PCM set to 92, Wave set to 92 and Master set to 92. alsamixer
from a remote session helped a lot in my sound card config by playing
something on the myth front end and adjusting from remote session
until the audio levels were where I needed them to be. Then alsactl
store to retain the settings.

On Dec 25, 2005, at 10:00 PM, Joshua Frank wrote:

> I have tried this. It is possible by using alsactl to capture the
> line out and redirect. The problem is that the sound quality is
> very poor when you do this. I beleive the artical on how to do this
> was on the myth wiki site. My advice is not to try.
>
> On 12/23/05, Rajeev Goonewardene <fedora@ready2think.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have successfully got mythtv working and it works great - very
> impressed by the work, thank you Issac and Jarod for the great
> software and howtos. One small question, I have the PVR-350 card and
> I was wondering if I can get mplayer to play the DVD sound through
> the PVR350's audio out so I don't have to switch cables when watching
> a DVD. This also would be nice for any media I am playing through
> mplayer.
>
> Any help would be really appreciated.
> Thanks,
>
> Rajeev.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
H P Ladds wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> Any help in isolating this problem would be great.
>
> I can watch live TV with TVtime. Mythtv will not tune-in channels.
>
> Mythtv seems to be set up correctly as the channels appear to change
> and the channel descriptions correctly indicate the show which is
> currently broadcast.
>
> I use an Over The Air Antenna and watch on my monitor.
>
> Shouldn't Mythtv be able to deliver pictures if TVtime can?

1) Do you have the ivtv-tune utility installed? (in case you use ivtv)
2) Have you checked /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log for channel changing
problems? Make sure MYTH_VERBOSE is set to "channel" in
/etc/conf.d/mythbackend.

Best regards
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Richard,

Thank you.

1) I don't have ivtv-tune installed; however, I don't use Conextent's
CX23415/CX23416 chips. I DO user their Bt878 chipset. From what I've
briefly read, IVTV is not for use with BT878. Should I install it
anyway?

2) Nor do I have "/etc/conf.d/mythbackend;" however, my backend seems
to be running well.

Interestingly, I don't have ivtv, or xawtv on my FC#3 machine. Makes
me wonder how TVtime runs at all -- on bttv modules perhaps?

I used the ATrpms "mythtv-suite" package to install. Maybe
"Myth-suite" doesn't accommodate Bt878 card/chipset?

On 1/13/06, Rickard Borgmäster <doktorn@sub.nu> wrote:
> H P Ladds wrote:
> > Hey All,
> >
> > Any help in isolating this problem would be great.
> >
> > I can watch live TV with TVtime. Mythtv will not tune-in channels.
> >
> > Mythtv seems to be set up correctly as the channels appear to change
> > and the channel descriptions correctly indicate the show which is
> > currently broadcast.
> >
> > I use an Over The Air Antenna and watch on my monitor.
> >
> > Shouldn't Mythtv be able to deliver pictures if TVtime can?
>
> 1) Do you have the ivtv-tune utility installed? (in case you use ivtv)
> 2) Have you checked /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log for channel changing
> problems? Make sure MYTH_VERBOSE is set to "channel" in
> /etc/conf.d/mythbackend.
>
> Best regards
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> 1) I don't have ivtv-tune installed; however, I don't use Conextent's
> CX23415/CX23416 chips. I DO user their Bt878 chipset. From what I've
> briefly read, IVTV is not for use with BT878. Should I install it
> anyway?
>
> 2) Nor do I have "/etc/conf.d/mythbackend;" however, my backend seems
> to be running well.
>
> Interestingly, I don't have ivtv, or xawtv on my FC#3 machine. Makes
> me wonder how TVtime runs at all -- on bttv modules perhaps?

no, you don't need ivtv if you have a software encoder card based on
bt878. have you setup the tuner card in mythtv-setup? (or whatever it
is called on FC3)

you need to tell mythtv about the tuner card before it can use it.
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Trent Sikkema writes:

> I am new to linux and knoppmyth i did the automatic install and after the
> first four steps what do i do after that?
>
> --
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Assuming you mean steps 1 thru 4 in mythtv-setup... Simply exit
mythtv-setup (<ESC> your way out). After this, mythfilldatabase will run,
after that the frontend should start.

Regards,

Cecil

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I did the part all the way up to filling in username and that stuff then it
goes to the root@tty1[/] #




On 2/3/06, cwatson@linkline.com <cwatson@linkline.com> wrote:
>
> Trent Sikkema writes:
>
> > I am new to linux and knoppmyth i did the automatic install and after
> the
> > first four steps what do i do after that?
> >
> > --
> > Trent Sikkema
> > 101 Freeman
> > Iowa State
>
> Assuming you mean steps 1 thru 4 in mythtv-setup... Simply exit
> mythtv-setup (<ESC> your way out). After this, mythfilldatabase will run,
> after that the frontend should start.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 2/3/06, Trent Sikkema <tsikkema@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/3/06, cwatson@linkline.com <cwatson@linkline.com> wrote:
> > Trent Sikkema writes:
> >
> > > I am new to linux and knoppmyth i did the automatic install and after
> the
> > > first four steps what do i do after that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Trent Sikkema
> > > 101 Freeman
> > > Iowa State
> >
> > Assuming you mean steps 1 thru 4 in mythtv-setup... Simply exit
> > mythtv-setup (<ESC> your way out). After this, mythfilldatabase will run,
> > after that the frontend should start.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Cecil
> >
>
> I did the part all the way up to filling in username and that stuff then it
> goes to the root@tty1[/] #
>
>

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
According to Trent Sikkema,
> I searched the forums and couldnt find anything on this. I thought i set the
> time correctly but my program guide is off like 7 or 8 hours. Is there a
> place to up date the actual time or had anyone else had this problem. Thanks
> for the help.


You might consider using a better subject line.

Check your timezone (run date in a shell).

I find it handy to install ntp-simple so my system gets its
time from the network.

T

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> Check your timezone (run date in a shell).

And do remember that in Linux/UNIX you can have different
timezones for every user. ie. Check your mythtv user timezone
and compare to the others. (timezone in TZ variable in login script)

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i had this problem. first had to set the date and time using some date
command, rdate? then i used ntp to sync my time - ntpupdate. then i used
the command 'tzconfig' to set the timezone. after that, grab your channel
data again and run 'mythfilldatabase'.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
how do i get to the shell to do all of this

On 2/4/06, Tim <news@timandnoelle.com> wrote:
>
> i had this problem. first had to set the date and time using some date
> command, rdate? then i used ntp to sync my time - ntpupdate. then i used
> the command 'tzconfig' to set the timezone. after that, grab your channel
> data again and run 'mythfilldatabase'.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> On 2/4/06, Tim <news@timandnoelle.com> wrote:
> >
> > i had this problem. first had to set the date and time using some date
> > command, rdate? then i used ntp to sync my time - ntpupdate. then i used
> > the command 'tzconfig' to set the timezone. after that, grab your channel
> > data again and run 'mythfilldatabase'.

According to Trent Sikkema,
> how do i get to the shell to do all of this

How did you get mythtv installed if you don't know how to
get a shell? Anyhow, simplest way to tell you is to use
Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6 for the six virtual consoles.

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well since it is all step by step and never have to program anything i
didnt really have to use the shell

On 2/4/06, Tony Godshall <togo@of.net> wrote:
>
> > On 2/4/06, Tim <news@timandnoelle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > i had this problem. first had to set the date and time using some
> date
> > > command, rdate? then i used ntp to sync my time - ntpupdate. then i
> used
> > > the command 'tzconfig' to set the timezone. after that, grab your
> channel
> > > data again and run 'mythfilldatabase'.
>
> According to Trent Sikkema,
> > how do i get to the shell to do all of this
>
> How did you get mythtv installed if you don't know how to
> get a shell? Anyhow, simplest way to tell you is to use
> Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6 for the six virtual consoles.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
it isnt rdate for the set the date and time. what is the command?


On 2/4/06, Tony Godshall <togo@of.net> wrote:
>
> > On 2/4/06, Tim <news@timandnoelle.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > i had this problem. first had to set the date and time using some
> date
> > > command, rdate? then i used ntp to sync my time - ntpupdate. then i
> used
> > > the command 'tzconfig' to set the timezone. after that, grab your
> channel
> > > data again and run 'mythfilldatabase'.
>
> According to Trent Sikkema,
> > how do i get to the shell to do all of this
>
> How did you get mythtv installed if you don't know how to
> get a shell? Anyhow, simplest way to tell you is to use
> Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6 for the six virtual consoles.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Feb 4, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Trent Sikkema wrote:

> it isnt rdate for the set the date and time. what is the command?
>

Do a "man date". Also look into ntp, ntpd, ntpdate, zoneinfo and
related information.
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alright that works thanks

On 2/4/06, Brian Wood <beww@beww.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Trent Sikkema wrote:
>
> > it isnt rdate for the set the date and time. what is the command?
> >
>
> Do a "man date". Also look into ntp, ntpd, ntpdate, zoneinfo and
> related information.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 05:36:33PM +0000, mstrimel@comcast.net wrote:
> The only other thing I changed lately was to toss out my patch cable
> and start recording sound directly from the bus. I did that because
> recording from my sound card had mysteriously stopped working (despite
> **many** adjustments to the mixer, research and attempts to fix the
> problem). Could recording from the btaudio device be causing the
> recordings to stop early for some reason?

If your card is a PVR-150, then you shouldn't be patching audio at all;
the card should extract it, encode it, and put it in the MPEG-2 stream.
If you've told MythTV to capture audio from some other piece of hardware
for a program recorded on a PVR-, that's probably your problem.

Cheers,
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If you were joking, that not very nice. I apologize if I sounded
pushy by asking for a response asap. I'm very new to this message board.

Tony
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i assume you are running them either of seperate LNBs or thru a
multiplexer? If thru a multiplexer, do you have both sides of the LNB
hooked up to the multiplexer?

Karl

wrote:
> <pre wrap>
> Anyone having any problems with DirectTV and RCA DRD435RH boxes? I bought
> 4 of them on ebay because I could control them over serial port unlike the
> boxes DirectTV sent my. They work great about 70% of the time, the other
> 30% they don't give me "Searching for satellite signal. Please stand by."
> I odd part is it has nothing to do with my signal, since it happens to
> different boxes at different times with other boxes have 99% signal. Also
> the fix that almost always works is power cycle ling the boxes.
>
> Is there another serial controlled box I should look at?
>
> </pre><blockquote type=cite><pre wrap>&lt;&gt;
> </pre></blockquote><pre wrap><!---->Nathan Stratton
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On 5/30/06, cweisiger@i-55.com <cweisiger@i-55.com> wrote:
>
> I have a pvr-150(non-mce) and a pvr-350 in my system.
>
> The sound quality is wonderful on my pvr-350, of which I
> have the coax cable hooked directly to it.
>
> The pvr-150(non-mce) has my cable box hooked to it using
> the composite(yellow, red, white). The picture quality is
> great but the sound is scratchy, with a slight hissing sound.
> Could this be that the sound is going from the red, white jacks
> to the single sound input of the pvr-150.
>
> Would the sound quality be better with a pvr-150 MCE version?



I'd consider better cables before switching capture cards. You may be
picking up some interference. You don't have to spend a fortune to get
reasonable (well-shielded) cables, but a lot of the really cheap cables
(especially those that are packed in with A/V gear) are horrible.

Carl Fongheiser
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
I was reading up some information.

The audio from the cable box, am i suppose
to hook it to my pvr-150 audio-in, or to my on-board sound card line-in?

I was thinking to hook it up to my on-board sound see if it makes a difference.

I think the cables I got were of better quality then the cheapo ones.

Ill double check though.


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On 05/30/2006 03:06 PM, cweisiger@i-55.com wrote:
> The audio from the cable box, am i suppose
> to hook it to my pvr-150 audio-in, or to my on-board sound card line-in?
>

It has to go to the PVR-150 to be recorded into the MPEG stream.

> I was thinking to hook it up to my on-board sound see if it makes a difference.
>

It will, but not in the way you're hoping. ;)

> I think the cables I got were of better quality then the cheapo ones.
>
> Ill double check though.

As suggested by someone else, check the output from your cable box.
Also, make sure your audio cables are plugged in all the way--ISTR
someone saying something was getting in the way unless you turn the plug
a particular way.

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On 5/30/06, cweisiger@i-55.com <cweisiger@i-55.com> wrote:
>
> I was reading up some information.
>
> The audio from the cable box, am i suppose
> to hook it to my pvr-150 audio-in, or to my on-board sound card line-in?
>
> I was thinking to hook it up to my on-board sound see if it makes a
> difference.
>
> I think the cables I got were of better quality then the cheapo ones.
>
> Ill double check though.



Just to warn you, you have to hook it up to the PVR-150 if you want any
audio in your recordings.

Carl Fongheiser
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On May 30, 2006, at 1:06 PM, cweisiger@i-55.com wrote:

> I was reading up some information.
>
> The audio from the cable box, am i suppose
> to hook it to my pvr-150 audio-in, or to my on-board sound card
> line-in?
>
> I was thinking to hook it up to my on-board sound see if it makes a
> difference.
>
> I think the cables I got were of better quality then the cheapo ones.
>
> Ill double check though.

Connect your audio from your STB to the audio input of the PVR card,
NOT your sound card's input, unless you want to listen to out-of-time
audio all the time.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On May 30, 2006, at 1:37 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote:

> On 05/30/2006 03:06 PM, cweisiger@i-55.com wrote:
>> The audio from the cable box, am i suppose
>> to hook it to my pvr-150 audio-in, or to my on-board sound card
>> line-in?
>>
>
> It has to go to the PVR-150 to be recorded into the MPEG stream.
>
>> I was thinking to hook it up to my on-board sound see if it makes
>> a difference.
>>
>
> It will, but not in the way you're hoping. ;)
>
>> I think the cables I got were of better quality then the cheapo ones.
>>
>> Ill double check though.
>
> As suggested by someone else, check the output from your cable box.
> Also, make sure your audio cables are plugged in all the way--ISTR
> someone saying something was getting in the way unless you turn the
> plug
> a particular way.

I suspect you are thinking of the plug for the IR sensor/blaster,
which is so close to the edge of the card that it will hit the metal
unless you orient it so that the beveled side is facing the edge.
AFAIK the 1/8" audio input is a standard connector, but does need
moderate pressure to ensure it is seated completely.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
I have decent cables. If I use the cables hooked directly to my tv. The audio
quality is like it is suppose to be...

pvr-150 is /dev/video1

if I run from the command line: mplayer /dev/video1

the audio is like it is suppose to be
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
do not ever send me a mail message again!


>From: cweisiger@i-55.com
>Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users@mythtv.org>
>To: "Michael T. Dean" <mtdean@thirdcontact.com>
>CC: Discussion about mythtv <mythtv-users@mythtv.org>
>Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 08:24:52 -0500 (CDT)
>
>I have decent cables. If I use the cables hooked directly to my tv. The
>audio
>quality is like it is suppose to be...
>
>pvr-150 is /dev/video1
>
>if I run from the command line: mplayer /dev/video1
>
>the audio is like it is suppose to be
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On Jun 10, 2006, at 6:44 AM, Paul Simpson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm considering using MythTv (or Pluto - any advice?) but am
> particularly
> interested in pressing an old laptop into service to act as a portable
> playback unit.
>
> Is it possible to copy the video files to the unit running the
> frontend
> (possibly running it as a second backend?)?
>

You haven't provided many details, like are you talking about HD or
SD video, but you could NFS or Samba mount the files from wherever
they are stored and play them that way.
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Brian Wood schreef:
> You haven't provided many details, like are you talking about HD or
> SD video, but you could NFS or Samba mount the files from wherever
> they are stored and play them that way.
> _____________________________________________
Or better still, depending on the networkspeed and the format, you could
install the frontend on your laptop and have it connect to the backend.
For recordings you'd be fine this way, if you want to watch video's as
well, you need to mount the dir where the video's are stored on your laptop.

Regards,

Jos Hoekstra
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> Brian Wood schreef:
>> You haven't provided many details, like are you talking about HD or
>> SD video, but you could NFS or Samba mount the files from wherever
>> they are stored and play them that way.
>> _____________________________________________
> Or better still, depending on the networkspeed and the format, you could
> install the frontend on your laptop and have it connect to the backend.
> For recordings you'd be fine this way, if you want to watch video's as
> well, you need to mount the dir where the video's are stored on your
> laptop.

Sorry, I wan't being clear!

I travel quite a bit by train etc., so I figured I could download
recordings to the laptop's local drive for off-line viewing on the train
etc. (When unconnected to any type of network.)

I know myth uses a db to catalog the recordings, so I guess it's just a
case of copying the file and the relevant db entries?

I intend to install a server as a backend at home and two or three small
front-ends (probably diskless) for viewing around the house (using wired
ethernet.)

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Paul Simpson wrote:

>Sorry, I wan't being clear!
>
>I travel quite a bit by train etc., so I figured I could download
>recordings to the laptop's local drive for off-line viewing on the train
>etc. (When unconnected to any type of network.)
>
>I know myth uses a db to catalog the recordings, so I guess it's just a
>case of copying the file and the relevant db entries?
>
>I intend to install a server as a backend at home and two or three small
>front-ends (probably diskless) for viewing around the house (using wired
>ethernet.)
>
>
>
See the thread, myth2go, from a week or two ago...

I am trying to do this exact thing. If you have any MySQL skills at
all, I could use some help...

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Paul Simpson schreef:
> Sorry, I wan't being clear!
>
> I travel quite a bit by train etc., so I figured I could download
> recordings to the laptop's local drive for off-line viewing on the train
> etc. (When unconnected to any type of network.)
>
> I know myth uses a db to catalog the recordings, so I guess it's just a
> case of copying the file and the relevant db entries?
>
> I intend to install a server as a backend at home and two or three small
> front-ends (probably diskless) for viewing around the house (using wired
> ethernet.)
>

I'm in the same situation, I've got the recording directory shared via
samba. Combined with the mythtv-filters[1] I just browse there and
download the recordings to my laptop and watch them on the way as well.
There are scripts to make nice filenames, but I'm happy the way it is
already...

[1]http://dsmyth.sourceforge.net
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> I travel quite a bit by train etc., so I figured I could download
> recordings to the laptop's local drive for off-line viewing on the train
> etc. (When unconnected to any type of network.)
>
> I know myth uses a db to catalog the recordings, so I guess it's just a
> case of copying the file and the relevant db entries?
>
> I intend to install a server as a backend at home and two or three small
> front-ends (probably diskless) for viewing around the house (using wired
> ethernet.)

What about making your laptop a slave backend while at home, but when
you "travel" switch over it's config to be the master, copy the db
over, and the files. It would take a bit of planning so you could
transfer the files; unless you used a removable USB drive for your
recordings, then you wouldn't even have to transfer them. Just
provide a universal recording directory at home (via something like
NFS)... Hmmm, but when you travelled you'd no longer be able to
capture recordings you've scheduled unless you had 2 mirrored drives.

Probably easiest idea that I can think of manually would be to copy
the db and files, and then switch the laptop into master backend mode
when you remove it from the network.

-Chad
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On 06/10/2006 11:29 AM, Paul Simpson wrote:
> I travel quite a bit by train etc., so I figured I could download
> recordings to the laptop's local drive for off-line viewing on the train
> etc. (When unconnected to any type of network.)
>
> I know myth uses a db to catalog the recordings, so I guess it's just a
> case of copying the file and the relevant db entries?
I considered doing something like that, but after my "transitional"
playback method worked so well, I dropped all plans of trying to get a
full-fledged Myth setup for travel.

I use the mythrename.pl script to create useful names for my recordings
(sorted by original air date so I know the order for playback) and copy
recordings across the network and play them back via xine. With xine, I
have an easy to use, keyboard accessible player that has timestretch (my
#1 requirement for a player), so it has all the things I need.

Mike
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Lol- I assume this is a virus, if not email me back to confirm.


Cheers,
Dean


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Dear user of mythtv.org,

Your email account has been used to send a huge amount of spam messages
during the last week.
Obviously, your computer had been compromised and now runs a trojaned
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No no, you should *immediately* send whoever that is as much money as
you can for their "protection" software.

Mortgage the house, sell the wife, you *need* their product !!!!!

On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:08 PM, Dean Collins wrote:

> Lol- I assume this is a virus, if not email me back to confirm.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Dean
>
>
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> Dear user of mythtv.org,
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> Your email account has been used to send a huge amount of spam
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> Obviously, your computer had been compromised and now runs a trojaned
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Where do I send the money? I don't see a link anywhere. I will have give
less money to my Nigerian friend who will provide me my fortune, but it
sounds like it's worth it.

> No no, you should *immediately* send whoever that is as much money as
> you can for their "protection" software.
>
> Mortgage the house, sell the wife, you *need* their product !!!!!
>
> On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:08 PM, Dean Collins wrote:
>
>> Lol- I assume this is a virus, if not email me back to confirm.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dean
>>
>>
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>> Dear user of mythtv.org,
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>> Your email account has been used to send a huge amount of spam
>> messages
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>> Obviously, your computer had been compromised and now runs a trojaned
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>>
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On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 22:24 -0400, Charles Francis wrote:
> Where do I send the money? I don't see a link anywhere. I will have give
> less money to my Nigerian friend who will provide me my fortune, but it
> sounds like it's worth it.
>
> > No no, you should *immediately* send whoever that is as much money as
> > you can for their "protection" software.
> >
> > Mortgage the house, sell the wife, you *need* their product !!!!!
> >
> > On Jun 29, 2006, at 8:08 PM, Dean Collins wrote:
> >
> >> Lol- I assume this is a virus, if not email me back to confirm.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Dean
> >>
> >>
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> >> Subject: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
> >>
> >> Dear user of mythtv.org,
> >>
> >> Your email account has been used to send a huge amount of spam
> >> messages
> >> during the last week.
> >> Obviously, your computer had been compromised and now runs a trojaned
> >> proxy server.
> >>
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On 08/19/06 19:47, Schmidt, Bodo wrote:

> I got my Myth box working nicely, but still messing around with the
> hardware mpeg decoders, so right now I'm accessing the videos over my
> network. THe speed is fast enough (the myth box is wireless).
>
> When I use mythweb and look at the recorded shows, things are
> different on PC and MAC:
> PC: The status bar shows the link: myth://192.168.1.70:6543/xxx.mpg
> MAC: The status bar shows the link:
> http://192.168.1.70/mythweb/data/recordings/xxx.mpg
>
> The Mac works wonderfully - it launches Quicktime and streams the
> video. The PC link however doesn't work. I googled a bit and
> installed the DSMyth software, but it still doesn't work.
>
> Right now I'm going through samba manually - it works, but it's just
> difficult because of the file name convention.
>
> Can anybody share how they have it working on a PC?
>

If you can't get it to work with DSMyth filters on Windows, you can tell
MythWeb not to use the myth:// URL for Windows clients.

If you're using SVN, go into Settings|MythTV global defaults and change
the Video URL as described in the help comment at the bottom of the page.

If you're using 0.19(-fixes)?, edit config/conf.php as described in the
comments:

// video_url is normally determined automatically (a local link to
data/recordings
// for Linux/MacOS, and a myth:// URL for windows machines), but you
can override
// it here to something else if you really need to.
# define('video_url', 'data/recordings');
# define('video_url', 'file://machine_name/path_to_videos');
# define('video_url', 'myth://slave_backend_ip:6543');

Mike
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On 8/31/06, alain maisonneuve <alain.maisonneuve_lists@swiftpenguin.com> wrote:
> I just grabbed a copy of 0.19-fixes off of svn.. i get the following
> error any thoughts?:
>
> main.cpp:20:30: error: mythtv/exitcodes.h: No such file or directory

- Did you build and install mythtv *BEFORE* you built mythplugins?
- Do you have a binary package of mythtv installed in a path that's
different than where you built SVN mythtv?

-Ross
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I am running Unbuntu Breezy, i did install the 0.18 version Binary.

I then built 0.19 from source(Mythtv, MythPlugin, MythTheme) and i am
currently
running with that.


I am building everything in /usr/local

Quoting Ross Campbell <ross.campbell@gmail.com>:

> On 8/31/06, alain maisonneuve
> <alain.maisonneuve_lists@swiftpenguin.com> wrote:
>> I just grabbed a copy of 0.19-fixes off of svn.. i get the following
>> error any thoughts?:
>>
>> main.cpp:20:30: error: mythtv/exitcodes.h: No such file or directory
>
> - Did you build and install mythtv *BEFORE* you built mythplugins?
> - Do you have a binary package of mythtv installed in a path that's
> different than where you built SVN mythtv?
>
> -Ross
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
nospam312 wrote:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to get TV Out working on a NVIDIA
> FX5200 graphics card at 848x480 resolution?

I do. You need a FX5200 card with a DVI-out port. I use a DVI-to-HDMI
adapter and then an HDMI cable to my Panasonic plasma TV. Works great.

Actually, I'm running 856x480. I've experimented with 848x480.

Here is my modeline: "856x480" 28.4 856 864 896 952 480 482 484 497

One thing that I have noticed, if I boot the system with the TV off using
the default xorg.conf option, Xorg would not detect the TV and give me a
default resolution of 800x600. So I added:

Option "ConnectedMonitor" "DFP"

to my Device section. And now it always boots correctly.

One other strange thing. I am using Fedora Core 6 with KDE following Jarod
Wilson's excellent how-to guide. If you follow the menus and open up the
KDE Display Settings tool, it shows the resolution as 800x600. However, if
you run the nvidia-settings utility, it shows the resolution is actually
856x480.

I hope this helps.

Tom
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:00 PM, Marco Crosio wrote:

> I own a Hauppauge PVR 150 and when i fire Up MythTv, to watch tv, i
> see a distorted and multiple flickering image.

Try:

v4l2-ctl --set-ctrl temporal_filter=0
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> There are basically three ways to get HD into a Myth system from a
> cable TV source:
>
> By unencrypted QAM, if your cable operator is kind enough to transmit
> HD programming in unencrypted form, which is not too likely and even
> it it's happening you can't count on it continuing. Basically this
> will only be the stuff you could get off-air anyway, with some
> exceptions.
>
> Get one of the cable STBs that output an MPEG stream via firewire.
> Again this only works for unencrypted programming and only with
> certain STBs and only if the cable operator has enabled the F/W port
> (or more likely neglected to disable it). Yes, I know they are
> supposed to enable this feature for the basic broadcast channels but
> try explaining that to the customer service rep.
>
> Spend upwards of $50,000 on a Lucent or Tandberg HD encoder that will
> allow you to encode the component output of a STB into an MPEG stream.
>
> Any other alternatives I'm all ears to hear about.
>
> This will all of course change with time. There are some HDMI capture
> devices that look promising and are relatively "cheap" (ie: under
> $5000) and there are some HD camcorders that apparently have encoder
> chips/chipsets in them that can apparently encode 1080i for well
> under $1000.
>
> But essentially it's the "Hollywood" types who insist on protecting
> their "premium content", and are making things difficult for
> everyone, including themselves if they could only figure that out.
>
> It's not really a technical problem at this point, it's an economic
> and legal one.

Thanks Brian, I'm sure you meant well, but your answer is way over my head. I am just wondering if that card will work or not, using a standard cable hookup. Seems lots of folks are using it. HDTV is available in our subscription.
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On 2/16/07, michaelachandler@cox.net <michaelachandler@cox.net> wrote:
> > There are basically three ways to get HD into a Myth system from a
> > cable TV source:
> >
> > By unencrypted QAM, if your cable operator is kind enough to transmit
> > HD programming in unencrypted form, which is not too likely and even
> > it it's happening you can't count on it continuing. Basically this
> > will only be the stuff you could get off-air anyway, with some
> > exceptions.
> >
> > Get one of the cable STBs that output an MPEG stream via firewire.
> > Again this only works for unencrypted programming and only with
> > certain STBs and only if the cable operator has enabled the F/W port
> > (or more likely neglected to disable it). Yes, I know they are
> > supposed to enable this feature for the basic broadcast channels but
> > try explaining that to the customer service rep.
> >
> > Spend upwards of $50,000 on a Lucent or Tandberg HD encoder that will
> > allow you to encode the component output of a STB into an MPEG stream.
> >
> > Any other alternatives I'm all ears to hear about.
> >
> > This will all of course change with time. There are some HDMI capture
> > devices that look promising and are relatively "cheap" (ie: under
> > $5000) and there are some HD camcorders that apparently have encoder
> > chips/chipsets in them that can apparently encode 1080i for well
> > under $1000.
> >
> > But essentially it's the "Hollywood" types who insist on protecting
> > their "premium content", and are making things difficult for
> > everyone, including themselves if they could only figure that out.
> >
> > It's not really a technical problem at this point, it's an economic
> > and legal one.
>
> Thanks Brian, I'm sure you meant well, but your answer is way over my head. I am just wondering if that card will work or not, using a standard cable hookup. Seems lots of folks are using it. HDTV is available in our subscription.


Be aware of what an HDTV subscription means. Generally (eg with
Comcast) an HD subscription is an additional $5-10 or so a month and
gives you access to some cable-only HD channels as well as OTA HD
channels. But you'll need an HD-capable STB from your cable company to
actuallty see them in HD, which costs an additional $5 or so per
month.

But the OTA channels are already on the cable before you subscribe to
the company's HD plan. In other words, their plan will only give you
channels like Discovery HD, ESPN HD, etc, which you will most likely
not be able to record in Myth anyway.

You already have (or should have, according to FCC regs) access to
CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, and PBS HD channels no matter what your
subscription is. If you have a QAM-capable card, you should be able to
capture these in Myth already without subscribing to an HD plan.

If you want to go the firewire route, all you need to do is ask your
cable operator for an HD STB (eg the Motorola 6200 series). You'll
have access to the OTA HD stations out of the DVI and component ports
(useless for MythTV), and should have access through the firewire
port. You'll still need to pay an additional $5 per month for the box
but you don't need the HD subscription. If a customer service rep
tells you otherwise, they're lying.

But if you already have a QAM card, then getting the STB won't help
with anything.

Hope this helps.
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---- Dewey Smolka <dsmolka@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/16/07, michaelachandler@cox.net <michaelachandler@cox.net> wrote:
> > > There are basically three ways to get HD into a Myth system from a
> > > cable TV source:
> > >
> > > By unencrypted QAM, if your cable operator is kind enough to transmit
> > > HD programming in unencrypted form, which is not too likely and even
> > > it it's happening you can't count on it continuing. Basically this
> > > will only be the stuff you could get off-air anyway, with some
> > > exceptions.
> > >
> > > Get one of the cable STBs that output an MPEG stream via firewire.
> > > Again this only works for unencrypted programming and only with
> > > certain STBs and only if the cable operator has enabled the F/W port
> > > (or more likely neglected to disable it). Yes, I know they are
> > > supposed to enable this feature for the basic broadcast channels but
> > > try explaining that to the customer service rep.
> > >
> > > Spend upwards of $50,000 on a Lucent or Tandberg HD encoder that will
> > > allow you to encode the component output of a STB into an MPEG stream.
> > >
> > > Any other alternatives I'm all ears to hear about.
> > >
> > > This will all of course change with time. There are some HDMI capture
> > > devices that look promising and are relatively "cheap" (ie: under
> > > $5000) and there are some HD camcorders that apparently have encoder
> > > chips/chipsets in them that can apparently encode 1080i for well
> > > under $1000.
> > >
> > > But essentially it's the "Hollywood" types who insist on protecting
> > > their "premium content", and are making things difficult for
> > > everyone, including themselves if they could only figure that out.
> > >
> > > It's not really a technical problem at this point, it's an economic
> > > and legal one.
> >
> > Thanks Brian, I'm sure you meant well, but your answer is way over my head. I am just wondering if that card will work or not, using a standard cable hookup. Seems lots of folks are using it. HDTV is available in our subscription.
>
>
> Be aware of what an HDTV subscription means. Generally (eg with
> Comcast) an HD subscription is an additional $5-10 or so a month and
> gives you access to some cable-only HD channels as well as OTA HD
> channels. But you'll need an HD-capable STB from your cable company to
> actuallty see them in HD, which costs an additional $5 or so per
> month.
>
> But the OTA channels are already on the cable before you subscribe to
> the company's HD plan. In other words, their plan will only give you
> channels like Discovery HD, ESPN HD, etc, which you will most likely
> not be able to record in Myth anyway.
>
> You already have (or should have, according to FCC regs) access to
> CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, and PBS HD channels no matter what your
> subscription is. If you have a QAM-capable card, you should be able to
> capture these in Myth already without subscribing to an HD plan.
>
> If you want to go the firewire route, all you need to do is ask your
> cable operator for an HD STB (eg the Motorola 6200 series). You'll
> have access to the OTA HD stations out of the DVI and component ports
> (useless for MythTV), and should have access through the firewire
> port. You'll still need to pay an additional $5 per month for the box
> but you don't need the HD subscription. If a customer service rep
> tells you otherwise, they're lying.
>
> But if you already have a QAM card, then getting the STB won't help
> with anything.
>
> Hope this helps.

It certainly does. I appreciate it. Lots of good info there.
Thanks.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
I want to thank all who responded to this.

My situation is perhaps different than most of you, in that I'll be sharing my cable with my landlord, who resides in a seperate residence on the same property.

The incoming cable is split before it goes into his house where he has the "cable box" from the provider on his TV. The other split goes to my house. In my house I split it again, for TV and for internet.

I was concerned that the signal need to go through his "cable box" before it comes to me, in order for me to have HDTV. The way I read your replies, I'll still be able to get fox, nbc, abc, and a few others without that.
That's all I need anyway.
Thanks again, folks.
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On Feb 16, 2007, at 7:36 PM, <michaelachandler@cox.net> wrote:

> I want to thank all who responded to this.
>
> My situation is perhaps different than most of you, in that I'll be
> sharing my cable with my landlord, who resides in a seperate
> residence on the same property.
>
> The incoming cable is split before it goes into his house where he
> has the "cable box" from the provider on his TV. The other split
> goes to my house. In my house I split it again, for TV and for
> internet.
>
> I was concerned that the signal need to go through his "cable box"
> before it comes to me, in order for me to have HDTV. The way I read
> your replies, I'll still be able to get fox, nbc, abc, and a few
> others without that.
> That's all I need anyway.

You may or you may not, it depends on your cable provider.

If they are sending the local off-air channels as unencrypted QAM,
and your capture card can deal with QAM, and if it is a Myth-
supported supported card, then what you say is correct.

But that's a lot of "ifs". Some cable operators encrypt even what
they are not "supposed" to, and literally thumb their noses at the
rules. Some operators literally don't know what you would be talking
about, and the effort to get them to abide by the rules might not be
worth it.

If you live in a major metro area you can probably get the local
affiliates as off-air ATSC channels with rabbit ears, which your card
can almost certainly deal with given a decent signal. A lot of the
cards that can deal with QAM require a fairly strong signal to work
well, and from what you say about the number of splits that might be
a problem.

In short YMMV. If you can find a Myth user on your cable system you
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
to sum this up, your card will pull in only the unencrypted digital
channels (most likely, just the local network channels). any premium
digital channels (HBO, ESPN-HD, etc) will be decoded by a rented set
top box for viewing on your TV, and might be recordable in myth, but
only via the firewire port on the set top box, if it has one, and if
it's enabled.
-J

On 2/16/07, Dewey Smolka <dsmolka@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/16/07, michaelachandler@cox.net <michaelachandler@cox.net> wrote:
> > > There are basically three ways to get HD into a Myth system from a
> > > cable TV source:
> > >
> > > By unencrypted QAM, if your cable operator is kind enough to transmit
> > > HD programming in unencrypted form, which is not too likely and even
> > > it it's happening you can't count on it continuing. Basically this
> > > will only be the stuff you could get off-air anyway, with some
> > > exceptions.
> > >
> > > Get one of the cable STBs that output an MPEG stream via firewire.
> > > Again this only works for unencrypted programming and only with
> > > certain STBs and only if the cable operator has enabled the F/W port
> > > (or more likely neglected to disable it). Yes, I know they are
> > > supposed to enable this feature for the basic broadcast channels but
> > > try explaining that to the customer service rep.
> > >
> > > Spend upwards of $50,000 on a Lucent or Tandberg HD encoder that will
> > > allow you to encode the component output of a STB into an MPEG stream.
> > >
> > > Any other alternatives I'm all ears to hear about.
> > >
> > > This will all of course change with time. There are some HDMI capture
> > > devices that look promising and are relatively "cheap" (ie: under
> > > $5000) and there are some HD camcorders that apparently have encoder
> > > chips/chipsets in them that can apparently encode 1080i for well
> > > under $1000.
> > >
> > > But essentially it's the "Hollywood" types who insist on protecting
> > > their "premium content", and are making things difficult for
> > > everyone, including themselves if they could only figure that out.
> > >
> > > It's not really a technical problem at this point, it's an economic
> > > and legal one.
> >
> > Thanks Brian, I'm sure you meant well, but your answer is way over my head. I am just wondering if that card will work or not, using a standard cable hookup. Seems lots of folks are using it. HDTV is available in our subscription.
>
>
> Be aware of what an HDTV subscription means. Generally (eg with
> Comcast) an HD subscription is an additional $5-10 or so a month and
> gives you access to some cable-only HD channels as well as OTA HD
> channels. But you'll need an HD-capable STB from your cable company to
> actuallty see them in HD, which costs an additional $5 or so per
> month.
>
> But the OTA channels are already on the cable before you subscribe to
> the company's HD plan. In other words, their plan will only give you
> channels like Discovery HD, ESPN HD, etc, which you will most likely
> not be able to record in Myth anyway.
>
> You already have (or should have, according to FCC regs) access to
> CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, and PBS HD channels no matter what your
> subscription is. If you have a QAM-capable card, you should be able to
> capture these in Myth already without subscribing to an HD plan.
>
> If you want to go the firewire route, all you need to do is ask your
> cable operator for an HD STB (eg the Motorola 6200 series). You'll
> have access to the OTA HD stations out of the DVI and component ports
> (useless for MythTV), and should have access through the firewire
> port. You'll still need to pay an additional $5 per month for the box
> but you don't need the HD subscription. If a customer service rep
> tells you otherwise, they're lying.
>
> But if you already have a QAM card, then getting the STB won't help
> with anything.
>
> Hope this helps.
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---- jason maxwell <decepticon@gmail.com> wrote:
> to sum this up, your card will pull in only the unencrypted digital
> channels (most likely, just the local network channels). any premium
> digital channels (HBO, ESPN-HD, etc) will be decoded by a rented set
> top box for viewing on your TV, and might be recordable in myth, but
> only via the firewire port on the set top box, if it has one, and if
> it's enabled.
> -J

Thanks Jason, Brian and everyone,

I went ahead and bought a used AVerMedia MCE A180 HD Tuner Card for I think good price, from what I've seen here, they are Mythtv compatible.

I'll call the provider when I get home and see about those things you mention.

I suppose I'll have to leave my other card in place to get regular channels (ATI TV wonder VE)?
`
Your time and knowledge is always appreciated.

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On Feb 17, 2007, at 7:42 AM, <michaelachandler@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Thanks Jason, Brian and everyone,
>
> I went ahead and bought a used AVerMedia MCE A180 HD Tuner Card
> for I think good price, from what I've seen here, they are Mythtv
> compatible.
>
> I'll call the provider when I get home and see about those things
> you mention.
>
> I suppose I'll have to leave my other card in place to get regular
> channels (ATI TV wonder VE)?

Some HD tuner cards can also function as simple frame grabber analog
cards as well (the HD-3K for example). I'm not sure if the A180 can
do that or not, and switching between modes can sometimes be tricky.

But if you have the slots available multiple tuners are always
desirable, I certainly wouldn't throw away a working card.

> `
> Your time and knowledge is always appreciated.
>

All of it free and all of it worth precisely what it costs :-)

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 00:46 +0100, Nick Morrott wrote:
> On 05/05/07, Nathan A. Smith <nasa01@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Hi Mythgang,
> >
> >
> > I recently had to rebuild my mythbox. I backed up all my data including
> > the database by following the steps presented here:
> >
> > http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Backup_your_database
> >
> >
> > Rebuilt the box, installed all applicable software and recompiled myth
> > from svn. Imported the database and went through the steps to
> > reconfigure myth.
> >
> > At this point, most everything is back to normal with exception of a
> > couple of items:
> >
> > 1. (and most important) I can no longer schedule shows to record. I
> > have attempted it both in mythweb and the schedule options under
> > mythfrontend. I follow the steps to schedule a show and everything is
> > accepted as usual -- to include it showing up in "recording schedule"
> > under mythtv. However, no showings are present in "upcoming recording".
> > And yes, this does include shows that were only an hour a way.... This
> > is true in both mythfrontend and mythweb. And of course, no shows are
> > recorded.
>
> Michael Dean replied to an almost identical query a few days ago, so
> check the archives. You probably want to delete all you capture cards
> and video sources to remove any stale/broken settings.
>
> > 2. Under mythweb, "recorded shows" -- none of the preview images are
> > present any more. Where have they gone?
>
> Check the permissions on your recordings folder where the thumbnails
> are created and also the mythtweb files in your webserver root, and
> your httpd error logs to ensure mythweb is correctly installed.
>
> Nick

Thanks Nick,

Appreciate you taking the time to look at my problems.... First off, I
screwed up by not adding a subject before hitting the send button. Not
sure if it was a mistake to correct that by sending a new one with a
subject line included (see: Box rebuild issues).

Although I didn't see Dean's email -- I had already deleted/recreated my
capture cards 3x.

Looking at my error logs (should have thought of that myself) I noted
that I forgot to copy those from my orginal install. Is there a way to
recreate them?

BTW: the error log only listed missing one file -- even though quite a
few were missing, which I thought was kinda odd.

Nasa

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 05/06/2007 12:17 AM, Nathan A. Smith wrote:
> Although I didn't see Dean's email -- I had already deleted/recreated my
> capture cards 3x.

You have to use "Delete all capture cards" (and not "Delete all capture
cards on <hostname>") or it won't clean up enough mess.

Also, you'll probably need to use the "Delete all video sources" button
to delete your video sources. Then re-create capture cards, video
sources, input connections, and channels.

If you don't use the "Delete all" buttons mentioned above, you're
wasting your time.

Mike

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Sun, 2007-05-06 at 00:37 -0400, Michael T. Dean wrote:
> On 05/06/2007 12:17 AM, Nathan A. Smith wrote:
> > Although I didn't see Dean's email -- I had already deleted/recreated my
> > capture cards 3x.
>
> You have to use "Delete all capture cards" (and not "Delete all capture
> cards on <hostname>") or it won't clean up enough mess.
>
> Also, you'll probably need to use the "Delete all video sources" button
> to delete your video sources. Then re-create capture cards, video
> sources, input connections, and channels.
>
> If you don't use the "Delete all" buttons mentioned above, you're
> wasting your time.
>
> Mike
>
Mike,

I followed the following instructions when I deleted and recreated my
capture cards/video sources

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/260033?search_string=delete%20capture%20cards;#260033

Nasa


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David Frascone wrote:
> I use dyndns.
>
> -Dave
>
> On 6/13/07, edilbeck@cox.net <edilbeck@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Just wondering how everyone redirects to MythWeb running at home if
>> they
>> have a dynamic IP. I created some scripts on >a co-owned server [. and
>> have
>> cron (on my local mythbox) hitting them every so often. This way I get
>> >redirected to whatever my current dynamic IP is. If there is [Eric
>> Dilbeck] > enough of a need, I would open this
>> >option up to other MythWeb users.
>>
>> I was also wandering how people did this. I have not dig deep enough into
>> this problem yet. But I was wanting to do this with out any cosy(dyn dns
>> service) I do have a domain. Is there a way for my Myth box to ftp the
>> current dyn ip to my web server so it always know how to get to my
>> myth box?

Script writing for this purpose is not necessary.
LinkSys ( and many other brand) routers have a dynamic dns report
capability and they are cheap. The WRT54G for example can be found for
as little as $50. On top of that, I think my DyDNS costs only $15 a
year. It's even cheaper if you use their domain rather than your own
(That is, getting 'yourname.dydns.com' is a little cheaper than having
them "host" yourname.com. I own the domain name being pointed to).

The LinkSys us VERY VERY easy to set up, and absolutely reliable. I've
only played with it so far but it works. I flashed it with the free
DD-WRT firmware which enhanced the capabilities (and made the interface
more user friendly).

Buy yourself a father's day present and get a router if you don't
already have one. Or buy a better router if yours does not do dydns.

It's not really worth the hassle of doing it any other way.


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Re: Dynamic IPs was: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
R. G. Newbury wrote:

> It's not really worth the hassle of doing it any other way.

I still say a static IP is the way to go, solves a LOT of problems.

I don't know about your ISP, but I'm paying $4.95/month for two static
IPs, hardly enough to really worry about.

But, as always, whatever works for you.

BEWW
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
R. G. Newbury wrote:
> David Frascone wrote:
>
>> I use dyndns.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On 6/13/07, edilbeck@cox.net <edilbeck@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Just wondering how everyone redirects to MythWeb running at home if
>>>>
>>> they
>>> have a dynamic IP. I created some scripts on >a co-owned server [. and
>>> have
>>> cron (on my local mythbox) hitting them every so often. This way I get
>>>
>>>> redirected to whatever my current dynamic IP is. If there is [Eric
>>>>
>>> Dilbeck] > enough of a need, I would open this
>>>
>>>> option up to other MythWeb users.
>>>>
>>> I was also wandering how people did this. I have not dig deep enough into
>>> this problem yet. But I was wanting to do this with out any cosy(dyn dns
>>> service) I do have a domain. Is there a way for my Myth box to ftp the
>>> current dyn ip to my web server so it always know how to get to my
>>> myth box?
>>>
>
> Script writing for this purpose is not necessary.
> LinkSys ( and many other brand) routers have a dynamic dns report
> capability and they are cheap. The WRT54G for example can be found for
> as little as $50. On top of that, I think my DyDNS costs only $15 a
> year. It's even cheaper if you use their domain rather than your own
> (That is, getting 'yourname.dydns.com' is a little cheaper than having
> them "host" yourname.com. I own the domain name being pointed to).
>
If you have your own domain name and a router that doesn't have dynamic
dns reporting another option is to run ddclient. It will ping your
router every x minutes to see if your WAN address has changed. If it
detects a change it will update the DNS service of your choice. I've
been using it with zoneedit for the last 2 years with no problems. If
you already have a domain this option will cost you nothing :)

Patrick
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org
> [mailto:mythtv-users-bounces@mythtv.org]Im Auftrag von Jeff Simpson
> Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Juni 2007 16:23
> An: Discussion about mythtv
> Betreff: Re: [mythtv-users] (no subject)
>
>
> On 6/13/07, edilbeck@cox.net <edilbeck@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Just wondering how everyone redirects to MythWeb running
> at home if they have a dynamic IP.
>
> I use one of the free versions of dyndns.org. gentoo has a package
> (ddclient), that includes daily IP checking (it uses a webpage to get
> the IP, so it doesn't matter that I'm behind a router). It updates the
> dyndns server whenever my IP changes and sends me an email. Very
> simple and easy, I haven't had to touch it for years.
>
> - Jeff

Same here. I use dyndns.org, but my router take care of updating the
ip. Together with a forward rule to the mythbox in lan, i can reach
it from outside (if it is online) - it was great while the soccer
world championship - i could verify the pc is up and recording the
matches i can't see, while at work... :)

My 2 cents,
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 02/07/07, m.hutchinson@comcast.net <m.hutchinson@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just read on goldfish.org that Zap2It is going to discontinue their service. Does anyone know of a replacement yet?

Surely not? Hadn't we better discuss it a few thousand times here? Oh,
wait, we already did.


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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
m.hutchinson@comcast.net wrote:
> I just read on goldfish.org that Zap2It is going to discontinue their service. Does anyone know of a replacement yet?

Nope. Nobody here knows anything about this.
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m.hutchinson@comcast.net wrote:
> I just read on goldfish.org that Zap2It is going to discontinue their service. Does anyone know of a replacement yet?
>
> Thanks
>
Duck. Flying objects their way.....
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 7/2/07, m.hutchinson@comcast.net <m.hutchinson@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I just read on goldfish.org that Zap2It is going to discontinue their
> service. Does anyone know of a replacement yet?
>

READ the list archives.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Sorry if this is a repeat of some previous conversations. I just joined the group.

Matt
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> On 02/07/07, m.hutchinson@comcast.net <m.hutchinson@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I just read on goldfish.org that Zap2It is going to discontinue their service.
> Does anyone know of a replacement yet?
>
> Surely not? Hadn't we better discuss it a few thousand times here? Oh,
> wait, we already did.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 7/2/07, m.hutchinson@comcast.net <m.hutchinson@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Sorry if this is a repeat of some previous conversations. I just joined
> the group.
>

There has been several hundred posts on this topic over the last few weeks.
I did not answer your second question and since there is soo much discussion
to look through the answer is their is no replacement right now just
discussion about ways to get the data and ways to distribute it if we do get
our hands on programming data.

John
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> READ the list archives.

And please put something in the subject line of your posts. It's not
good etiquette to leave the subject blank.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Hi

It is mCubed who makes these cases
http://www.mcubed-tech.com/english/index.htm

In denmark they are sold under the HFX brand

Hope this helps

/Hasse

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> I am interested in building a new front end for my Myth setup, I like
> the look of these cases, does anyone know where I can buy them?
>
> http://www.vidabox.com/Products/ZERO.htm
>
> http://www.vidabox.com/Products/STEALTH.htm
>
> regards
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Monday 03 September 2007 07:51:30 David Watkins wrote:
> > > optimize_mythdb.pl in the contrib directory.
> >
> > Thanks for the help - but I am afraid I don't know what it means!
> >
> > Could you expand a bit?
>
> It's one of the scripts that comes bundled with mythtv. The location
> might depend on your mythtv package. As root try ..
>
> find / -name "optimize*" -print
>
> which should find it for you. Then go to the directory where it was
> found and type ..
>
> ./optimize_mythdb.pl
>
> (you may need to be your mythtv user, rather than root for this,
> depending on mysql access permissions)
>
> Hope this works for you
>
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thanks Michael and David, this did the trick.

Michael
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Ohh and big threats! Half the people on the server...


- --
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Phil Bridges wrote:
> On 9/13/07, Michael <mfeather@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> Can you please take me off your fucking mailing list. I have tried multiple
>> times by clicking the link at the bottom of the page. I do not want my inbox
>> bombarded with 500 emails full of practically useless shit.
>>
>> Take ME OFF THE LIST- ILL Take myself off, and half the people on the server
>> if you don't.
>
> Didn't we go through this with you before? Read the bottom of your
> flipping emails.
>
> BTW, I think most people would qualify this as "practically useless shit". ;)
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Leigh Porter wrote:
>
> Ohh and big threats! Half the people on the server...
>

The OP should be careful. Somebody might interpret his initial post as a
"terroristic threat".

You can't be too careful these days.

beww
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:01 AM, A JM wrote:

> You guy's should have made him ask nicely and have an actual
> conversation to solve his problem now he thinks he can make threats
> and people will help him and pay attention to him...

He probably learned that in grade school. Once a bully, always a bully.



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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
um, yeah.
I think I got that.
You see he was complaining about all the email but he was generating more and then....
Ah forget it either you get it or you don't
sigh

Chris Ribe <chrisribe@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/13/07, Dave Phillips <family_of_phillips@yahoo.com> wrote: Quit swearing on our polite list.
If you keep this up we will have you forcibly removed from the premises.

I think that was his fucking point.






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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
 
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:58 PM, James Middendorff <james@nigmatech.com> wrote:

hello,
I have three tuners, I would like to use 2 specific tuners to record channels from like 2-79, and then the last tuner to record channels from 79 up, I have looked through the setup and cannot figure out how to specify have the tuners only record certain channels?
thanks

I believe you'd have to define two lineups (XMLTV or SchedulesDirect) each containing the channels you want to record and assign those lineups to the tuners as needed.

Kevin


Kevin,
I tried that last night, I had a bunch of shows setup for the two lower channel tuners and then I setup the high channel tuner with a second video source from schedules direct and restarted, then looked in mythweb and upcoming recordings and saw that the third (high channel tuner) was going to be used to record shows in the lower channels...
James
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
2009/3/17 jeremy cobert <jeremycobert@gmail.com>

> hey guys, i cant seem to transcode any recorded programs. i looked in
> system status and it says "errored exit status 255"
> using mythbuntu. where should i look for more details ? i cant find any
> answers yet in my searches for online help.
>
>
IIRC that's the standard 'something broke' error - I believe you can find
more info in your mythbackend.log file. I remember I had an issue trying to
use an MPEG-2 transcoder for MPEG-4 video or vice versa.

Sorry I'm not more specific but hopefully I can point you in the right
direction.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Sorry about that, 2 mistaps to send a message and no way to stop it.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, John Drescher <drescherjm@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:20 AM, Michelle Agnew
> <michelle.agnew@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> Replied from gmail.
>
> John
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On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Michelle Agnew
<michelle.agnew@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry about that, 2 mistaps to send a message and no way to stop it.
>
Hey, no problem. I expected that was the reason.. :)


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Guy Dawson wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>
> I’ve been offered one of these cheap, and was wondering what the screen
> display is like with Myth.
>

Man, so cheap it doesn't show up in the message!

Ya know what they say, you get what you pay for!

*snicker*

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:38 PM, <backuppc@sundquist.imapmail.org> wrote:
> On Friday 22 January 2010 Tim wrote:
>
>> This is exactly what I mean by the big business' in the US using congress to
>> gain marketshare instead of innovation.
>
> And unfortunately with yesterday's supreme court ruling, this will
> become very much easier, too.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22donate.html?hp

Considering the last Presidential election cycle saw a tremendous
amount of donations provided by untraceable single-use credit cards,
does this decision really make any difference?

Anyway, back to on-topic discussion.
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:38 PM, <backuppc@sundquist.imapmail.org> wrote:
> On Friday 22 January 2010 Tim wrote:
>
>> This is exactly what I mean by the big business' in the US using congress to
>> gain marketshare instead of innovation.
>
> And unfortunately with yesterday's supreme court ruling, this will
> become very much easier, too.


Yes, it's a very sad day when the 1st Amendment trumps specious
nonsense about "the appearance of corruption".

Corporations will stop making political donations when the government
stops assuming it can pick winners and losers among those corporations
(like the ethanol subsidies which benefit Cargill).

Calvin Dodge
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/22/us/politics/22donate.html?hp
>
> Considering the last Presidential election cycle saw a tremendous
> amount of donations provided by untraceable single-use credit cards,
> does this decision really make any difference?

Not just single-use cards. Anyone could donate up to $2300 per regular
credit card, as long as they listed a phony name and address, since
Obama and Company didn't do basic address verification (other
candidates DID do this, as does every reputable Web store).

Calvin Dodge
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On 1/22/2010 2:47 PM, Calvin Dodge wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:38 PM,<backuppc@sundquist.imapmail.org> wrote:
>> On Friday 22 January 2010 Tim wrote:
>>
>>> This is exactly what I mean by the big business' in the US using congress to
>>> gain marketshare instead of innovation.
>>
>> And unfortunately with yesterday's supreme court ruling, this will
>> become very much easier, too.
>
>
> Yes, it's a very sad day when the 1st Amendment trumps specious
> nonsense about "the appearance of corruption".


A friend's facebook just talked about this and I said the quickest solution that would have the most benefits would be to let the IRS tax the crap out of corps who apparently have billions to spend on this.

I pun'd that it could just be a federal sales tax considering how easily congress can be bought and sold.

-Ben
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On 09/30/2010 02:50 PM, Rafic Gho wrote:
> I am very new to this system and trying to use MythTV. I got a USB tuner
> (Hauppauge 1950), but Myth does not recognize it, or I may not know how
> to do it. How do I install the driver from the CD provided? Or is it
> possible?
>
>
look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards

It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by MythTV.
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Douglas Peale
<Douglas_Peale@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 09/30/2010 02:50 PM, Rafic Gho wrote:
>> I am very new to this system and trying to use MythTV. I got a USB tuner
>> (Hauppauge 1950), but Myth does not recognize it, or I may not know how
>> to do it. How do I install the driver from the CD provided? Or is it
>> possible?
>>
>>
> look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
>
> It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by MythTV.

MythTV doesn't support cards. It supports APIs. Both analog and
digital and that card are supported by the v4l and v4l-dvb APIs,
respectively. It'll work with myth fine. (once the OP reads the myth
manual and actually sets it up)

Robert
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so if I get the supported tuner, then does it recocognize the tuner without
loading the driver?

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Robert McNamara
<robert.mcnamara@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Douglas Peale
> <Douglas_Peale@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On 09/30/2010 02:50 PM, Rafic Gho wrote:
> >> I am very new to this system and trying to use MythTV. I got a USB tuner
> >> (Hauppauge 1950), but Myth does not recognize it, or I may not know how
> >> to do it. How do I install the driver from the CD provided? Or is it
> >> possible?
> >>
> >>
> > look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
> >
> > It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by MythTV.
>
> MythTV doesn't support cards. It supports APIs. Both analog and
> digital and that card are supported by the v4l and v4l-dvb APIs,
> respectively. It'll work with myth fine. (once the OP reads the myth
> manual and actually sets it up)
>
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Robert McNamara
<robert.mcnamara@gmail.com>wrote:

> > look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
> >
> > It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by MythTV.
>

*bbbbzzzzzzzt!*

As is linked from that wiki page, the official list of video capture cards
supported in Linux can be found via:

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information

The HVR-1950 is definitely on the "supported by Linux" list. And if Linux
supports it via an API that MythTV uses, it should work just fine in MythTV.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
This link says that WinTv-1950 is supported. Is this not correct?

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Douglas Peale <Douglas_Peale@comcast.net>wrote:

> On 09/30/2010 02:50 PM, Rafic Gho wrote:
> > I am very new to this system and trying to use MythTV. I got a USB tuner
> > (Hauppauge 1950), but Myth does not recognize it, or I may not know how
> > to do it. How do I install the driver from the CD provided? Or is it
> > possible?
> >
> >
> look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
>
> It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by MythTV.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Then the driver does not to be loaded?

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Gavin Hurlbut <gjhurlbu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Robert McNamara <
> robert.mcnamara@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
>> >
>> > It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by MythTV.
>>
>
> *bbbbzzzzzzzt!*
>
> As is linked from that wiki page, the official list of video capture cards
> supported in Linux can be found via:
>
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information
>
> The HVR-1950 is definitely on the "supported by Linux" list. And if Linux
> supports it via an API that MythTV uses, it should work just fine in MythTV.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 09/30/2010 03:49 PM, Gavin Hurlbut wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Robert McNamara
> <robert.mcnamara@gmail.com <mailto:robert.mcnamara@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > look here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards
> >
> > It seems you may have bought a card that is not yet supported by
> MythTV.
>
>
> *bbbbzzzzzzzt!*
>
> As is linked from that wiki page, the official list of video capture
> cards supported in Linux can be found via:
>
> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information
>
> The HVR-1950 is definitely on the "supported by Linux" list. And if
> Linux supports it via an API that MythTV uses, it should work just fine
> in MythTV.
>

So why does the incomplete list exist with just a tiny insignificant link to the official list? Why not just link to the
official list directly?
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Rafic Gho wrote:
>so if I get the supported tuner, then does it recocognize the tuner
>without loading the driver?

I'm guessing you've come from a Windows background and Linux is new
to you. It takes a fair bit of adjustment to the many significant
differences.

Generalising and simplifying somewhat ...

In the Windows world, many common devices are supported by Windows
"out of the box" - they still have a driver, it's just that Microsoft
supply one and it's installed by default. When you buy new hardware,
it typically comes with a disk for you to install a driver from -
either because the manufacturer has a better one than Microsoft
supply (eg it supports all the hardware features rather than just a
selection of generic ones) or because Microsoft don't supply one at
all.
Because Windows is such a dominant OS, no hardware manufacturer would
consider shipping hardware without a Windows driver.

Now, over in the Linux world things are different. We still need
device drivers, but the difference is that (in general) you don't get
a disk with a Linux driver with your new hardware. Things are
improving, but with a few notable exceptions, most vendors just
haven't realised that there is any other OS than Windows. Those of us
that use Macs have a similar problem.

As a result, in the Linux world, it's a case of the "Linux
Developers"* who have to supply all the device drivers. Thus, instead
of installing the driver that came on a disk from your hardware
vendor, you are reliant on a driver for that device being part of the
Linux you installed. If you have something that's mature enough to
have a driver, then it may well already be supported by your current
installation and you have nothing to install. If it's something new,
then you may have to upgrade and/or reconfigure your kernel to get a
driver - the latter is, I would suggest, not something for a complete
newcomer to tackle.

In your case, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices
shows that the device is supported from kernel version 2.6.26
onwards. That means plug it in, and the system should recognise it -
as long as you have a kernel no earlier than that. Most things are
"plug and play" these days, when you plug in the tuner, the USB
subsystem will detect the device being plugged in, interrogate it to
find out what it is, and load the correct driver to operate it. When
the driver loads, a device file will be created for it in /dev, and
the device is then 'visible' to any software you run.

That is only half the story - you then have to configure Myth to use
it. The driver merely makes the device visible to software running on
your system, you need applications (of which Myth is just one) to
actually use it.
Someone posted a link to the Wiki earlier where there are step by
step instructions to install and configure Myth.


* I use the term fairly widely as referring to the very large group
of developers who contribute to the overall "package". In fact there
is a group running the Video for Linux section, who look after video
devices.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Thanks Simon for a detailed explanation. Yes I am a window guy, although I
have taken some Linux classes in the past, I have forgotten the how to
environment. I will try to learn more as I dig in to it.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk>wrote:

> Rafic Gho wrote:
>
>> so if I get the supported tuner, then does it recocognize the tuner
>> without loading the driver?
>>
>
> I'm guessing you've come from a Windows background and Linux is new to you.
> It takes a fair bit of adjustment to the many significant differences.
>
> Generalising and simplifying somewhat ...
>
> In the Windows world, many common devices are supported by Windows "out of
> the box" - they still have a driver, it's just that Microsoft supply one and
> it's installed by default. When you buy new hardware, it typically comes
> with a disk for you to install a driver from - either because the
> manufacturer has a better one than Microsoft supply (eg it supports all the
> hardware features rather than just a selection of generic ones) or because
> Microsoft don't supply one at all.
> Because Windows is such a dominant OS, no hardware manufacturer would
> consider shipping hardware without a Windows driver.
>
> Now, over in the Linux world things are different. We still need device
> drivers, but the difference is that (in general) you don't get a disk with a
> Linux driver with your new hardware. Things are improving, but with a few
> notable exceptions, most vendors just haven't realised that there is any
> other OS than Windows. Those of us that use Macs have a similar problem.
>
> As a result, in the Linux world, it's a case of the "Linux Developers"* who
> have to supply all the device drivers. Thus, instead of installing the
> driver that came on a disk from your hardware vendor, you are reliant on a
> driver for that device being part of the Linux you installed. If you have
> something that's mature enough to have a driver, then it may well already be
> supported by your current installation and you have nothing to install. If
> it's something new, then you may have to upgrade and/or reconfigure your
> kernel to get a driver - the latter is, I would suggest, not something for a
> complete newcomer to tackle.
>
> In your case, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices shows
> that the device is supported from kernel version 2.6.26 onwards. That means
> plug it in, and the system should recognise it - as long as you have a
> kernel no earlier than that. Most things are "plug and play" these days,
> when you plug in the tuner, the USB subsystem will detect the device being
> plugged in, interrogate it to find out what it is, and load the correct
> driver to operate it. When the driver loads, a device file will be created
> for it in /dev, and the device is then 'visible' to any software you run.
>
> That is only half the story - you then have to configure Myth to use it.
> The driver merely makes the device visible to software running on your
> system, you need applications (of which Myth is just one) to actually use
> it.
> Someone posted a link to the Wiki earlier where there are step by step
> instructions to install and configure Myth.
>
>
> * I use the term fairly widely as referring to the very large group of
> developers who contribute to the overall "package". In fact there is a group
> running the Video for Linux section, who look after video devices.
> --
> Simon Hobson
>
> Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed
> author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as
> Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Op 1-10-2010 1:20, Simon Hobson schreef:
> Rafic Gho wrote:
>> so if I get the supported tuner, then does it recocognize the tuner
>> without loading the driver?
>
> I'm guessing you've come from a Windows background and Linux is new to
> you. It takes a fair bit of adjustment to the many significant
> differences.
>
> Generalising and simplifying somewhat ...
>
> In the Windows world, many common devices are supported by Windows
> "out of the box" - they still have a driver, it's just that Microsoft
> supply one and it's installed by default. When you buy new hardware,
> it typically comes with a disk for you to install a driver from -
> either because the manufacturer has a better one than Microsoft supply
> (eg it supports all the hardware features rather than just a selection
> of generic ones) or because Microsoft don't supply one at all.
> Because Windows is such a dominant OS, no hardware manufacturer would
> consider shipping hardware without a Windows driver.
>
> Now, over in the Linux world things are different. We still need
> device drivers, but the difference is that (in general) you don't get
> a disk with a Linux driver with your new hardware. Things are
> improving, but with a few notable exceptions, most vendors just
> haven't realised that there is any other OS than Windows. Those of us
> that use Macs have a similar problem.
>
> As a result, in the Linux world, it's a case of the "Linux
> Developers"* who have to supply all the device drivers. Thus, instead
> of installing the driver that came on a disk from your hardware
> vendor, you are reliant on a driver for that device being part of the
> Linux you installed. If you have something that's mature enough to
> have a driver, then it may well already be supported by your current
> installation and you have nothing to install. If it's something new,
> then you may have to upgrade and/or reconfigure your kernel to get a
> driver - the latter is, I would suggest, not something for a complete
> newcomer to tackle.
>
> In your case, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices shows
> that the device is supported from kernel version 2.6.26 onwards. That
> means plug it in, and the system should recognise it - as long as you
> have a kernel no earlier than that. Most things are "plug and play"
> these days, when you plug in the tuner, the USB subsystem will detect
> the device being plugged in, interrogate it to find out what it is,
> and load the correct driver to operate it. When the driver loads, a
> device file will be created for it in /dev, and the device is then
> 'visible' to any software you run.
>
> That is only half the story - you then have to configure Myth to use
> it. The driver merely makes the device visible to software running on
> your system, you need applications (of which Myth is just one) to
> actually use it.
> Someone posted a link to the Wiki earlier where there are step by step
> instructions to install and configure Myth.
>
>
> * I use the term fairly widely as referring to the very large group of
> developers who contribute to the overall "package". In fact there is a
> group running the Video for Linux section, who look after video devices.

It's a shame this isn't a forum where you could be awarded reputation
points, but this post gets a 'thumbs up' so to say.

Jos
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 09/30/2010 04:20 PM, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Rafic Gho wrote:
>> so if I get the supported tuner, then does it recocognize the tuner
>> without loading the driver?
>
> I'm guessing you've come from a Windows background and Linux is new to
> you. It takes a fair bit of adjustment to the many significant differences.
>
> Generalising and simplifying somewhat ...

[snip]

For a G&S response, that was outstanding. Well done, Simon.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 09/30/2010 07:32 PM, Jos Hoekstra wrote:

> It's a shame this isn't a forum where you could be awarded reputation
> points, but this post gets a 'thumbs up' so to say.
>
> Jos

+1

perfect job.



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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Hello Simon. My kernel version is 2.6.32. Should I upgrade to 2.6.35.7 that
I found as the latest stable Kernel? And how is possible to upgrade, I can
not make internet connections either. Thanks.

On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Simon Hobson <linux@thehobsons.co.uk>wrote:

> Rafic Gho wrote:
>
>> so if I get the supported tuner, then does it recocognize the tuner
>> without loading the driver?
>>
>
> I'm guessing you've come from a Windows background and Linux is new to you.
> It takes a fair bit of adjustment to the many significant differences.
>
> Generalising and simplifying somewhat ...
>
> In the Windows world, many common devices are supported by Windows "out of
> the box" - they still have a driver, it's just that Microsoft supply one and
> it's installed by default. When you buy new hardware, it typically comes
> with a disk for you to install a driver from - either because the
> manufacturer has a better one than Microsoft supply (eg it supports all the
> hardware features rather than just a selection of generic ones) or because
> Microsoft don't supply one at all.
> Because Windows is such a dominant OS, no hardware manufacturer would
> consider shipping hardware without a Windows driver.
>
> Now, over in the Linux world things are different. We still need device
> drivers, but the difference is that (in general) you don't get a disk with a
> Linux driver with your new hardware. Things are improving, but with a few
> notable exceptions, most vendors just haven't realised that there is any
> other OS than Windows. Those of us that use Macs have a similar problem.
>
> As a result, in the Linux world, it's a case of the "Linux Developers"* who
> have to supply all the device drivers. Thus, instead of installing the
> driver that came on a disk from your hardware vendor, you are reliant on a
> driver for that device being part of the Linux you installed. If you have
> something that's mature enough to have a driver, then it may well already be
> supported by your current installation and you have nothing to install. If
> it's something new, then you may have to upgrade and/or reconfigure your
> kernel to get a driver - the latter is, I would suggest, not something for a
> complete newcomer to tackle.
>
> In your case, http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices shows
> that the device is supported from kernel version 2.6.26 onwards. That means
> plug it in, and the system should recognise it - as long as you have a
> kernel no earlier than that. Most things are "plug and play" these days,
> when you plug in the tuner, the USB subsystem will detect the device being
> plugged in, interrogate it to find out what it is, and load the correct
> driver to operate it. When the driver loads, a device file will be created
> for it in /dev, and the device is then 'visible' to any software you run.
>
> That is only half the story - you then have to configure Myth to use it.
> The driver merely makes the device visible to software running on your
> system, you need applications (of which Myth is just one) to actually use
> it.
> Someone posted a link to the Wiki earlier where there are step by step
> instructions to install and configure Myth.
>
>
> * I use the term fairly widely as referring to the very large group of
> developers who contribute to the overall "package". In fact there is a group
> running the Video for Linux section, who look after video devices.
> --
> Simon Hobson
>
> Visit http://www.magpiesnestpublishing.co.uk/ for books by acclaimed
> author Gladys Hobson. Novels - poetry - short stories - ideal as
> Christmas stocking fillers. Some available as e-books.
>
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 09/30/2010 07:59 PM, Rafic Gho wrote:
> My kernel version is 2.6.32. Should I upgrade to 2.6.35.7 that I found
> as the latest stable Kernel? And how is possible to upgrade, I can not
> make internet connections either. Thanks.

I would.

Please...use a proper subject when posting to the list.
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 22:23 -0700, sdavmor wrote:
> On 09/30/2010 07:59 PM, Rafic Gho wrote:
> > My kernel version is 2.6.32. Should I upgrade to 2.6.35.7 that I found
> > as the latest stable Kernel? And how is possible to upgrade, I can not
> > make internet connections either. Thanks.
>
> I would.
>
> Please...use a proper subject when posting to the list.

And post to a list where your question is relevant. This is not a
general-linux-help list. There ass-barn-loads of lists for that so no
need to overload this list with such general help questions.

b.
Re: kernel upgrades (Was: (no subject)) [ In reply to ]
Brian J. Murrell wrote:

> > > My kernel version is 2.6.32. Should I upgrade to 2.6.35.7 that I found
>> > as the latest stable Kernel? And how is possible to upgrade, I can not
>> > make internet connections either. Thanks.
>>
>> I would.
>>
>> Please...use a proper subject when posting to the list.
>
>And post to a list where your question is relevant. This is not a
>general-linux-help list. There ass-barn-loads of lists for that so no
>need to overload this list with such general help questions.

Sorry but I have to say this, that attitude is one of the reasons
many people won't try/don't stick with Linux. It's entirely negative
and does nothing other than tell someone that in your opinion they
aren't worthy of being allowed into the group.

I took the question as related to his earlier one regarding drivers
for his capture card/device - as in "should I upgrade my kernel to
support it ?". As such it's not totally irrelevant here (though a
Video 4 Linux list/forum would be more appropriate).

This guy is clearly new around these parts and lost. A helpful
response would be to point him in the right direction, not wave a
shotgun and shout "get orrf me land" !

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Re: kernel upgrades (Was: (no subject)) [ In reply to ]
On Friday, October 01, 2010 07:01:36 am Simon Hobson wrote:
> Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > > > My kernel version is 2.6.32. Should I upgrade to 2.6.35.7 that I
> > > > found
> >> >
> >> > as the latest stable Kernel? And how is possible to upgrade, I can
> >> > not make internet connections either. Thanks.
> >>
> >> I would.
> >>
> >> Please...use a proper subject when posting to the list.
> >
> >And post to a list where your question is relevant. This is not a
> >general-linux-help list. There ass-barn-loads of lists for that so no
> >need to overload this list with such general help questions.
>
> Sorry but I have to say this, that attitude is one of the reasons
> many people won't try/don't stick with Linux. It's entirely negative
> and does nothing other than tell someone that in your opinion they
> aren't worthy of being allowed into the group.
>
> I took the question as related to his earlier one regarding drivers
> for his capture card/device - as in "should I upgrade my kernel to
> support it ?". As such it's not totally irrelevant here (though a
> Video 4 Linux list/forum would be more appropriate).
>
> This guy is clearly new around these parts and lost. A helpful
> response would be to point him in the right direction, not wave a
> shotgun and shout "get orrf me land" !

I agree, the OP us clearly a "MythTV User", and has a question about how to use MythTV, so he rightly belongs here.

Just knowing that the capture card requires a device driver of some sort puts the fellow head and shoulders above most
people. If we can't help a user with Windows experience and at least "some" Linux experience, we should just close up shop
and go home.

Myth is a difficult first Linux project, as I have said, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to get a new user up and
running. Pointing out some specific other sites may be a part of this process, but it's not the solution by itself.
Mentioning that there are many Linux sites out there helps nobody at this point, at the very least such a statement should
point to specific sites and/or forums.

For a start, the OP should consider one of the "all-in-one" Linux/Myth distributions, such as Mythdora or Mythbuntu, which
are likely to have any required drivers included, and concentrate on how to configure Myth, which can be daunting even for
experienced users.

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Re: kernel upgrades (Was: (no subject)) [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 07:24:39AM -0600, Brian Wood wrote:
> On Friday, October 01, 2010 07:01:36 am Simon Hobson wrote:
> > Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > > > > My kernel version is 2.6.32. Should I upgrade to 2.6.35.7 that I
> > > > > found
> > >> >
> > >> > as the latest stable Kernel? And how is possible to upgrade, I can
> > >> > not make internet connections either. Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> I would.
> > >>
> > >> Please...use a proper subject when posting to the list.
> > >
> > >And post to a list where your question is relevant. This is not a
> > >general-linux-help list. There ass-barn-loads of lists for that so no
> > >need to overload this list with such general help questions.
> >
> > Sorry but I have to say this, that attitude is one of the reasons
> > many people won't try/don't stick with Linux. It's entirely negative
> > and does nothing other than tell someone that in your opinion they
> > aren't worthy of being allowed into the group.
> >
> > I took the question as related to his earlier one regarding drivers
> > for his capture card/device - as in "should I upgrade my kernel to
> > support it ?". As such it's not totally irrelevant here (though a
> > Video 4 Linux list/forum would be more appropriate).
> >
> > This guy is clearly new around these parts and lost. A helpful
> > response would be to point him in the right direction, not wave a
> > shotgun and shout "get orrf me land" !
>
> I agree, the OP us clearly a "MythTV User", and has a question about how to use MythTV, so he rightly belongs here.
>
> Just knowing that the capture card requires a device driver of some sort puts the fellow head and shoulders above most
> people. If we can't help a user with Windows experience and at least "some" Linux experience, we should just close up shop
> and go home.
>
> Myth is a difficult first Linux project, as I have said, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to get a new user up and
> running. Pointing out some specific other sites may be a part of this process, but it's not the solution by itself.
> Mentioning that there are many Linux sites out there helps nobody at this point, at the very least such a statement should
> point to specific sites and/or forums.

...the web forums for Ubuntu and Gentoo are very helpful in general and
provide a lot of nice general purpose documentation on things such as
this. You don't have to be running either of those distros to find either
of their forums useful and relevant.

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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Richard Morton
<richard.e.morton@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is where remote controls on phones should be, review what media
> you have available on the remote device, playback on the big screen.
> While playback is occurring allow the remote device user to continue
> to browse media wihtout interrupting playback.

you mean like the xbmc android remote/

>
> Also the remote device user can control the normal media controls such
> as volume, pause, fast forward etc.
>
> Google has just attempted it with "leanback".
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/09/youtube-remote-app-released-brings-android-phones-and-google-tvs/
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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Richard Morton
<richard.e.morton@gmail.com>wrote:

> This is where remote controls on phones should be, review what media
> you have available on the remote device, playback on the big screen.
> While playback is occurring allow the remote device user to continue
> to browse media wihtout interrupting playback.
>
> Also the remote device user can control the normal media controls such
> as volume, pause, fast forward etc.
>
> Google has just attempted it with "leanback".
>
>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/09/youtube-remote-app-released-brings-android-phones-and-google-tvs/
> _______________________________________________
>

I've used a ton of phone-based remotes on my iPod and HTC Evo. I've used
remotes for media players such as MythTV, Boxee, XBMC, Plex, as well as PC
remote controls like RemoTux(I think that's the name? My iPod's at home),
Gmote, and various VNC clients.

I completely agree that this is a step in the right direction. IIRC at least
one of the Boxee remotes gives the feedback on the device showing what's
currently playing and lets you bounce around while your stuff is playing on
the big screen. But I haven't found one killer app yet that does everything
we need or want from such a device. MythDroid seems to be decent at two-way
communication by telling you what recordings are where, but it's been so
buggy for me that I haven't been able to use it to its full potential.

I think we're at the point where the technology is there, both on the media
player and the power of the phones we're using; what we need is somebody to
take the reins and put everything together into one usable, slick package.
I'm not so sure if or when this will happen, with all the fragmentation of
media players and aggregators that are out there (Boxee? Plex? Roku? WD?
Sonos? Google TV? Myth?).

Off the top of my head, to be a truly great remote, we need, in no
particular order:

1) Two way communication. Show screenshots or album arts on the remote
2) A truly dynamic interface - I think MythMote on my iPod changes its
available control buttons based on what type of media I'm playing and what
menu I'm in on Myth
3) Launch-and-go usability - Right now it's still a little dodgy to
configure your remote for the correct device. It should be maybe three
clicks to launch the remote, pick your frontend of choice, and launch your
content.
4) A killer app - Something amazing that blows the others out of the water.
For Myth, it could be a transcode button that 'sucks' the content to the
mobile device to watch on the road. For the aggregators like Boxee, it could
be a personal dashboard that recommends other things to watch based on what
you're watching with a one-click launcher to the new content. For the geeks,
a great remote control for Linux / Windows / whatever that's part VLC, part
portable trackpad or keyboard. For anything with a microphone, voice input
would be nice.
4) A nice front-end to a web interface that makes scheduling recordings or
setting up playlists super easy, perhaps even when not on the local LAN. How
cool would it be to set up recordings and queue up playlists that launch
when you get home?
5) Use of the existing technology - Why isn't there a bluetooth proximity
detector? Pause the show when I walk out of the room! Know that I want to
control my kitchen HTPC when I'm near it, and play back the show where I
left off in the living room! Things like this aren't too technically complex
(from a 5000 foot view) yet nobody's doing anything about them!

I haven't paid much attention to Google TV yet. I'm heavily invested in
MythTV and Boxee (My Boxee Box ships tomorrow!) and I just don't want to get
involved with yet another media player at this point. But I've spent a lot
of time daydreaming about the perfect system, which would include the
perfect remote, so this is a topic I like to talk about. We have all this
great technology with our mobile devices and a clean slate with the big
touchscreen phones (Don't get me started about tablets) and yet nobody has
taken the ball and run with it yet.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Matt Emmott <memmott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Richard Morton <richard.e.morton@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> This is where remote controls on phones should be, review what media
>> you have available on the remote device, playback on the big screen.
>> While playback is occurring allow the remote device user to continue
>> to browse media wihtout interrupting playback.
>>
>> Also the remote device user can control the normal media controls such
>> as volume, pause, fast forward etc.
>>
>> Google has just attempted it with "leanback".
>>
>>
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/09/youtube-remote-app-released-brings-android-phones-and-google-tvs/
>> _______________________________________________
>
> I've used a ton of phone-based remotes on my iPod and HTC Evo. I've used
> remotes for media players such as MythTV, Boxee, XBMC, Plex, as well as PC
> remote controls like RemoTux(I think that's the name? My iPod's at home),
> Gmote, and various VNC clients.
>
> I completely agree that this is a step in the right direction. IIRC at least
> one of the Boxee remotes gives the feedback on the device showing what's
> currently playing and lets you bounce around while your stuff is playing on
> the big screen. But I haven't found one killer app yet that does everything
> we need or want from such a device. MythDroid seems to be decent at two-way
> communication by telling you what recordings are where, but it's been so
> buggy for me that I haven't been able to use it to its full potential.
>
> I think we're at the point where the technology is there, both on the media
> player and the power of the phones we're using; what we need is somebody to
> take the reins and put everything together into one usable, slick package.
> I'm not so sure if or when this will happen, with all the fragmentation of
> media players and aggregators that are out there (Boxee? Plex? Roku? WD?
> Sonos? Google TV? Myth?).
>
> Off the top of my head, to be a truly great remote, we need, in no
> particular order:
>
> 1) Two way communication. Show screenshots or album arts on the remote

Sony and Phillips have been doing this for quite a while. Maybe
others? Not graphics per se, but 2-way comms..

> 2) A truly dynamic interface - I think MythMote on my iPod changes its
> available control buttons based on what type of media I'm playing and what
> menu I'm in on Myth
> 3) Launch-and-go usability - Right now it's still a little dodgy to
> configure your remote for the correct device. It should be maybe three
> clicks to launch the remote, pick your frontend of choice, and launch your
> content.
> 4) A killer app - Something amazing that blows the others out of the water.
> For Myth, it could be a transcode button that 'sucks' the content to the
> mobile device to watch on the road. For the aggregators like Boxee, it could
> be a personal dashboard that recommends other things to watch based on what
> you're watching with a one-click launcher to the new content. For the geeks,
> a great remote control for Linux / Windows / whatever that's part VLC, part
> portable trackpad or keyboard. For anything with a microphone, voice input
> would be nice.

The only thing I can instantly think of that would probably gain
instant traction is to make a touch-screen remote have feelable
buttons.

I have several high end remotes that will almost wash the dishes if I
tell them to, but honestly I prefer the cheaper reomtes with buttons.
Having no touch feedback on a touchscreen remote is a huge drawback.
Granted, I can do much more sophisticated things with them, but for
usual TV items, I will always grab a remote with buttons over a remote
with a touchscreen.

> 4) A nice front-end to a web interface that makes scheduling recordings or
> setting up playlists super easy, perhaps even when not on the local LAN. How
> cool would it be to set up recordings and queue up playlists that launch
> when you get home?

It is already possible.

> 5) Use of the existing technology - Why isn't there a bluetooth proximity
> detector? Pause the show when I walk out of the room! Know that I want to
> control my kitchen HTPC when I'm near it, and play back the show where I
> left off in the living room! Things like this aren't too technically complex
> (from a 5000 foot view) yet nobody's doing anything about them!

There are a lot of thees already. Search for voip and bluetooth..
The same techniques can be applied...

> I haven't paid much attention to Google TV yet. I'm heavily invested in
> MythTV and Boxee (My Boxee Box ships tomorrow!) and I just don't want to get
> involved with yet another media player at this point. But I've spent a lot
> of time daydreaming about the perfect system, which would include the
> perfect remote, so this is a topic I like to talk about. We have all this
> great technology with our mobile devices and a clean slate with the big
> touchscreen phones (Don't get me started about tablets) and yet nobody has
> taken the ball and run with it

I think everything you described is possible with today's feature sets.
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I don't agree that sony and phillips have been doing solutions like this.

We are talking about moving the entire osd onto a remote tablet. It would
need to be a compromise in fact depending on whether there are other people
around to look at what's on and whether choosing what to watch is a social
interaction or a single persons choice.

I don't think that a phone is the right device either. Something a little
larger like a nokia n8xx or n900, a dell streak or something bigger like an
ipad is really going to be needed to make this work.

The user should ideally be able to move playback from the tv to the "tablet
remote" walk into a different room and move it to the tv in that room in a
pretty seamless manner.... a bit like linuxmce manages with mythtv and
bluetooth proximity.

Anyway these are just my opinions and it is obviously a huge amount of
work...

R

On 10 Nov 2010 04:29, "Greg Oliver" <oliver.greg@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Matt Emmott <memmott@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at ...
Sony and Phillips have been doing this for quite a while. Maybe
others? Not graphics per se, but 2-way comms..


> 2) A truly dynamic interface - I think MythMote on my iPod changes its
> available control button...
The only thing I can instantly think of that would probably gain
instant traction is to make a touch-screen remote have feelable
buttons.

I have several high end remotes that will almost wash the dishes if I
tell them to, but honestly I prefer the cheaper reomtes with buttons.
Having no touch feedback on a touchscreen remote is a huge drawback.
Granted, I can do much more sophisticated things with them, but for
usual TV items, I will always grab a remote with buttons over a remote
with a touchscreen.


> 4) A nice front-end to a web interface that makes scheduling recordings or
> setting up playlists...
It is already possible.


> 5) Use of the existing technology - Why isn't there a bluetooth proximity
> detector? Pause the s...
There are a lot of thees already. Search for voip and bluetooth..
The same techniques can be applied...


> I haven't paid much attention to Google TV yet. I'm heavily invested in
> MythTV and Boxee (My Bo...
I think everything you described is possible with today's feature sets.

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Nick Rout <nick.rout@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Richard Morton
> <richard.e.morton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is where remote controls on phones should be, review what media
>> you have available on the remote device, playback on the big screen.
>> While playback is occurring allow the remote device user to continue
>> to browse media wihtout interrupting playback.
>
> you mean like the xbmc android remote/
>
>>
>> Also the remote device user can control the normal media controls such
>> as volume, pause, fast forward etc.
>>
>> Google has just attempted it with "leanback".
>>
>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/09/youtube-remote-app-released-brings-android-phones-and-google-tvs/

Have you seen WebMyth for Palm WebOS?

http://code.google.com/p/webmyth/

It works great, and the author (I assume is on the list, but I don't
know who he is) seems to update it fairly frequently with new
features.

Tom
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Tom Lichti <redpepperracing@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Nick Rout <nick.rout@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Richard Morton
> > <richard.e.morton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> This is where remote controls on phones should be, review what media
> >> you have available on the remote device, playback on the big screen.
> >> While playback is occurring allow the remote device user to continue
> >> to browse media wihtout interrupting playback.
> >
> > you mean like the xbmc android remote/
> >
> >>
> >> Also the remote device user can control the normal media controls such
> >> as volume, pause, fast forward etc.
> >>
> >> Google has just attempted it with "leanback".
> >>
> >>
> http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/09/youtube-remote-app-released-brings-android-phones-and-google-tvs/
>
> Have you seen WebMyth for Palm WebOS?
>
> http://code.google.com/p/webmyth/
>
> It works great, and the author (I assume is on the list, but I don't
> know who he is) seems to update it fairly frequently with new
> features.
>
> Tom
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wish there was one for the n900
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 15:37 +0000, Dave Brown wrote:
> wish there was one for the n900

Hi;

Have you tried:

http://irreco.garage.maemo.org/irreco.html ?

The site isn't responding very well right now.

If memory serves, I had to add the 'Maemo Extras Devel'
catalog to the Applications Manager.

I'm not using the Qt or Widget versions, but the
original, which is end-of-life now.

It works well with the MythTV Frontend control socket:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_control_socket


Take care,

Bill Meek


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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Greg Oliver <oliver.greg@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Matt Emmott <memmott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Richard Morton <richard.e.morton@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is where remote controls on phones should be, review what media
>>> you have available on the remote device, playback on the big screen.
>>> While playback is occurring allow the remote device user to continue
>>> to browse media wihtout interrupting playback.
>>>
>>> Also the remote device user can control the normal media controls such
>>> as volume, pause, fast forward etc.
>>>
>>> Google has just attempted it with "leanback".
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/09/youtube-remote-app-released-brings-android-phones-and-google-tvs/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> I've used a ton of phone-based remotes on my iPod and HTC Evo. I've used
>> remotes for media players such as MythTV, Boxee, XBMC, Plex, as well as PC
>> remote controls like RemoTux(I think that's the name? My iPod's at home),
>> Gmote, and various VNC clients.
>>
>> I completely agree that this is a step in the right direction. IIRC at least
>> one of the Boxee remotes gives the feedback on the device showing what's
>> currently playing and lets you bounce around while your stuff is playing on
>> the big screen. But I haven't found one killer app yet that does everything
>> we need or want from such a device. MythDroid seems to be decent at two-way
>> communication by telling you what recordings are where, but it's been so
>> buggy for me that I haven't been able to use it to its full potential.
>>
>> I think we're at the point where the technology is there, both on the media
>> player and the power of the phones we're using; what we need is somebody to
>> take the reins and put everything together into one usable, slick package.
>> I'm not so sure if or when this will happen, with all the fragmentation of
>> media players and aggregators that are out there (Boxee? Plex? Roku? WD?
>> Sonos? Google TV? Myth?).
>>
>> Off the top of my head, to be a truly great remote, we need, in no
>> particular order:
>>
>> 1) Two way communication. Show screenshots or album arts on the remote
>
> Sony and Phillips have been doing this for quite a while.  Maybe
> others?  Not graphics per se, but 2-way comms..
>
>> 2) A truly dynamic interface - I think MythMote on my iPod changes its
>> available control buttons based on what type of media I'm playing and what
>> menu I'm in on Myth
>> 3) Launch-and-go usability - Right now it's still a little dodgy to
>> configure your remote for the correct device. It should be maybe three
>> clicks to launch the remote, pick your frontend of choice, and launch your
>> content.
>> 4) A killer app - Something amazing that blows the others out of the water.
>> For Myth, it could be a transcode button that 'sucks' the content to the
>> mobile device to watch on the road. For the aggregators like Boxee, it could
>> be a personal dashboard that recommends other things to watch based on what
>> you're watching with a one-click launcher to the new content. For the geeks,
>> a great remote control for Linux / Windows / whatever that's part VLC, part
>> portable trackpad or keyboard. For anything with a microphone, voice input
>> would be nice.
>
> The only thing I can instantly think of that would probably gain
> instant traction is to make a touch-screen remote have feelable
> buttons.
>
> I have several high end remotes that will almost wash the dishes if I
> tell them to, but honestly I prefer the cheaper reomtes with buttons.
> Having no touch feedback on a touchscreen remote is a huge drawback.
> Granted, I can do much more sophisticated things with them, but for
> usual TV items, I will always grab a remote with buttons over a remote
> with a touchscreen.

my android phone remotes give a short vibrate when a touch button is
pressed. It's very positive.

>
>> 4) A nice front-end to a web interface that makes scheduling recordings or
>> setting up playlists super easy, perhaps even when not on the local LAN. How
>> cool would it be to set up recordings and queue up playlists that launch
>> when you get home?
>
> It is already possible.
>
>> 5) Use of the existing technology - Why isn't there a bluetooth proximity
>> detector? Pause the show when I walk out of the room! Know that I want to
>> control my kitchen HTPC when I'm near it, and play back the show where I
>> left off in the living room! Things like this aren't too technically complex
>> (from a 5000 foot view) yet nobody's doing anything about them!
>
> There are a lot of thees already.  Search for voip and bluetooth..
> The same techniques can be applied...
>
>> I haven't paid much attention to Google TV yet. I'm heavily invested in
>> MythTV and Boxee (My Boxee Box ships tomorrow!) and I just don't want to get
>> involved with yet another media player at this point. But I've spent a lot
>> of time daydreaming about the perfect system, which would include the
>> perfect remote, so this is a topic I like to talk about. We have all this
>> great technology with our mobile devices and a clean slate with the big
>> touchscreen phones (Don't get me started about tablets) and yet nobody has
>> taken the ball and run with it
>
> I think everything you described is possible with today's feature sets.
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On 10/11/2010 1:00 p.m., Matt Emmott wrote:
MythDroid seems to
> be decent at two-way communication by telling you what recordings are
> where, but it's been so buggy for me that I haven't been able to use it
> to its full potential.

When did you last use mythdroid? On what version of mythtv? Mythdroid
keeps improving and is quite usable now. So far it seems largely one
(talented) programmer / dev is working on it, which makes it that much
more remarkable, if I had the skills I'd be helping him because I've not
seen anything better and it is leaps ahead of anything else, (Linux
based that is, (linuxmce possibly accepted and not wishing to underpaly
mythmote either) I'm not not sure elsewhere) and at the end of the day
is a cool piece of software with the ability to morph and evolve into
something even better, just like mythtv.
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Richard Morton
<richard.e.morton@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't agree that sony and phillips have been doing solutions like this.

Well, my (older than 10 years) Sony remote is 2-way with gui feedback
on the remote. It will display current playing station, as well as
pull the settings from the receiver for current Speaker / EQ settings,
so the realtime data on the remote is what the receiver is currently
provisioned for. Granted it is not hi-res by any means, but the
basics are there. The latest generation Prontos do full screen gui
with device feedback.. The only thing bad about the sony remote was
at certain points deep into a configuration menu that relied on the
receiver's settings being transmitted to the remote, it could hang if
you left IR range.

> We are talking about moving the entire osd onto a remote tablet. It would
> need to be a compromise in fact depending on whether there are other people
> around to look at what's on and whether choosing what to watch is a social
> interaction or a single persons choice.
>
> I don't think that a phone is the right device either. Something a little
> larger like a nokia n8xx or n900, a dell streak or something bigger like an
> ipad is really going to be needed to make this work.

After having had a gamut of remotes, I can in fact say I will never
own another flat-screen touch remote without hard buttons - just my
$.02

> The user should ideally be able to move playback from the tv to the "tablet
> remote" walk into a different room and move it to the tv in that room in a
> pretty seamless manner.... a bit like linuxmce manages with mythtv and
> bluetooth proximity.
>
> Anyway these are just my opinions and it is obviously a huge amount of
> work...
>
> R
>
> On 10 Nov 2010 04:29, "Greg Oliver" <oliver.greg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Matt Emmott <memmott@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at ...
>
> Sony and Phillips have been doing this for quite a while.  Maybe
> others?  Not graphics per se, but 2-way comms..
>
>> 2) A truly dynamic interface - I think MythMote on my iPod changes its
>> available control button...
>
> The only thing I can instantly think of that would probably gain
> instant traction is to make a touch-screen remote have feelable
> buttons.
>
> I have several high end remotes that will almost wash the dishes if I
> tell them to, but honestly I prefer the cheaper reomtes with buttons.
> Having no touch feedback on a touchscreen remote is a huge drawback.
> Granted, I can do much more sophisticated things with them, but for
> usual TV items, I will always grab a remote with buttons over a remote
> with a touchscreen.
>
>> 4) A nice front-end to a web interface that makes scheduling recordings or
>> setting up playlists...
>
> It is already possible.
>
>> 5) Use of the existing technology - Why isn't there a bluetooth proximity
>> detector? Pause the s...
>
> There are a lot of thees already.  Search for voip and bluetooth..
> The same techniques can be applied...
>
>> I haven't paid much attention to Google TV yet. I'm heavily invested in
>> MythTV and Boxee (My Bo...
>
> I think everything you described is possible with today's feature sets.
>
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Bill Meek <keemllib@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 15:37 +0000, Dave Brown wrote:
> > wish there was one for the n900
>
> Hi;
>
> Have you tried:
>
> http://irreco.garage.maemo.org/irreco.html ?
>
> The site isn't responding very well right now.
>
> If memory serves, I had to add the 'Maemo Extras Devel'
> catalog to the Applications Manager.
>
> I'm not using the Qt or Widget versions, but the
> original, which is end-of-life now.
>
> It works well with the MythTV Frontend control socket:
>
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_control_socket
>
>
> Take care,
>
> Bill Meek
>
>
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Cheers Bill thats awesome, shame you cant use the n900's keyboard too
(mythnetvision etc) but still a handy remote :)
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 3/31/2011 19:43, Bruno DOUTRIAUX - Youmé-TECH wrote:
> i'd like to know if it exists a tuner dvb-t card in expresscard 54
> that works with myth-tv.

As always, digital tuners don't work with MythTV, they work with the
Linux kernel, and are exposed through the DVB API. If a card has
drivers that implement the DVB API, MythTV can record through it. You
need to question the developers of said drivers whether there are any
supported ExpressCard tuners.

See http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_PCMCIA_Cards
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It's one of the regular STBs which I'm connecting via SVHS and a CX23880
capture card. I'll be using a Dangerous Prototypes USB IRToy as an IR
transciever to blast the cable box and accept commands for MythTV, although
I haven't yet actually set it up yet. Currently almost everything we'd want
to record is one the same channel! :)

On 2 July 2011 23:21, Richard Morton <richard.e.morton@gmail.com> wrote:

> Seeing as you are talking about branson, where referring to virgin media in
> the uk. How are you connecting your virgin supply to mythtv? Directly with a
> dvbc card and cam or via the setup box and ir blaster? If so Which box are
> you using or which tuner card are you using.
>
> R
>
> Please excuse brevity and pistakes this email was composed on a mobile
> phone.
>
> Thanks and best regards,
>
> Richard
> On Jul 2, 2011 12:43 PM, "Colin McEwan" <colin.mcewan@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been gradually building a Myth box (1.24.1) to replace my TiVo
> > (because it seemed like more fun and less money than paying Mr Branson
> > for a new TiVo...), and running into all sorts of issues along the
> > way. It's been a bit more of a painful experience than I'd have
> > thought.
> >
> > The issue that's currently perplexing me is occasionally on watching
> > live tv, when the program changes (note: not channel, just the
> > scheduled programme) it crashes back to the menu with the message
> > "Error openi g program switch file".
> >
> > Havent been able to find any documentation of this, and a quick glance
> > at the source wasn't too illuminating as I haven't looked into the
> > architecture of the listings/schedule info at all.
> >
> > Any pointers?
> >
> > Cheers! :)
> > --
> > C.
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On Jan 12, 2012 6:55 AM, "Thomas Boehm" <mythtv-users@lists.boehmi.net>
wrote:
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> James Olsovsky wrote:
> > [SPAM deleted]
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> Can somebody please unsubscribe this Spammer? If he's not subscribed,
> how is it possible that this comes through?

I did so last night.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Thomas Boehm wrote:
> Can somebody please unsubscribe this Spammer?

Was he a spammer or was his Google account cracked?

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On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Doug Lytle <support@drdos.info> wrote:
>
> Thomas Boehm wrote:
>> Can somebody please unsubscribe this Spammer?
>
> Was he a spammer or was his Google account cracked?

How the heck would we know? Don't know, don't care. Two spam in two
days, he's no longer on the list.
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Oups! scuse for the noise.


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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
http://velplan.vndv.com/foxnews.newnewstory01.php
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On 29.03.2013 13:41, Richard Morton wrote:
> http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/28/bbc-details-iplayers-open-source-tv-application-layer/
>
> Does this help with integrating to BBC services (and eventually other
> companies if they adopt a similar approach)?

From my understanding its a framework to create similar applications,
but not to integrate with their backend services.
There appear to be some APIs under way for that, too. At least that's
my understanding from following some blogs, but this something else.

Regards,
Karl
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Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
>> I currently use Sony PS3 bluetooth remotes to control my various myth
boxes - whilst working ok >>they are very demanding on batteries.
>>
>> Im thinking in the future to use this technology : Bluetooth Low
Energy. There are already dongles out and some initial linux support.
>>
>> Does anyone have any experience of it? or any views on this subject?

>Do you apply the kitlaan bluez patches to allow them to sleep? My
>batteries last months. Only drawback is they take a few seconds to
>wake up but you soon get used to that
>Martin

Hi Martin , thanks for the reply.

Yes I've applied the kitlaan patches - using a ppa for mythbuntu. These
remotes are heavily used by the family and last a few weeks.

Also when they get low on batteries they tend to go a bit crazy ;key keeps
repeating, even though the batteries in the remote are removed.

I've also tried the bluetooth ng on google code. (
https://code.google.com/p/bdremote-ng/) This has similar problems.

I've got 3xfrontends and 3x PS3 remotes with 3 different bluetooth
adaptors.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> Hi Martin , thanks for the reply.
>
> Yes I've applied the kitlaan patches - using a ppa for mythbuntu. These
> remotes are heavily used by the family and last a few weeks.
>
> Also when they get low on batteries they tend to go a bit crazy ;key keeps
> repeating, even though the batteries in the remote are removed.
>
> I've also tried the bluetooth ng on google code. (
> https://code.google.com/p/bdremote-ng/) This has similar problems.
>
> I've got 3xfrontends and 3x PS3 remotes with 3 different bluetooth
> adaptors.
>
>
>
I use mine without any problems and they last months...that long I can
never remember when the batteries were last put in. That said I do use
pretty high capacity NiMH batteries so prob have more life than alkaline
cells

My wiki page is here regarding how I have set mine up

http://www.harley-jones.co.uk/?p=41

This might be slightly outdated now as I did this some time ago but it wont
be far wrong. I think the main change is uinput now part of the kernel(?)

I use a 5 minute timeout on mine and just accept that you have to be a bit
patient allowing it to come out of sleep mode to the order of a few seconds
(and sometimes press the key again). We soon got used to that.

I think your craziness of repeated key presses are brought on by low
batteries but not the root problem. I use boith xbmc and mythtv on the same
box and switch between the two using irexec applied to the eject key. I
have had the craziness you describe but only in mythtv and never in xbmc
and this occurs when when the remote is coming out of hibernation if I
press the same key twice in fairly quick succession (if the remote is awake
then it is never a problem).

I think you are seeing this when the batteries get low because it has
hibernated/lost connection. This ONLY ever happens in mythtv and never in
xbmc but I dont really know why this should be any different between the
two. I find when it happens my only course of action is to get the keyboard
and press esc

Martin
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Am 08.04.2013 14:01, schrieb Adam Skinner:
>
> >> I currently use Sony PS3 bluetooth remotes to control my various
> myth boxes - whilst working ok >>they are very demanding on batteries.
> >>
> >> Im thinking in the future to use this technology : Bluetooth Low
> Energy. There are already dongles out and some initial linux support.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any experience of it? or any views on this subject?
>
> >Do you apply the kitlaan bluez patches to allow them to sleep? My
> >batteries last months. Only drawback is they take a few seconds to
> >wake up but you soon get used to that
> >Martin
>
> Hi Martin , thanks for the reply.
>
> Yes I've applied the kitlaan patches - using a ppa for mythbuntu.
> These remotes are heavily used by the family and last a few weeks.
>
> Also when they get low on batteries they tend to go a bit crazy ;key
> keeps repeating, even though the batteries in the remote are removed.
>
> I've also tried the bluetooth ng on google code.
> (https://code.google.com/p/bdremote-ng/) This has similar problems.
>
> I've got 3xfrontends and 3x PS3 remotes with 3 different bluetooth
> adaptors.
>
>
>
>
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Hey thanks for the hint to PS3 BT remotes - just ordered one on eBay
because I do not always have good reception with my IR remote... I will
use it with Eneloop LSD rechargeable batteries and don't really mind to
change batteries every once in a while.

I recommend Eneloop to you too, they give good performance (last long
without discharging too much when being left alone) in low energy
devices like a remote and you will save a lot of money if you use them
instead of replacing all the hardware.
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Dave Matthews wrote:
> Alternatively - where can I get the 0.25 sources so that I figure out
> what is being called? Google found 0.26 and 0.27pre but not the 0.25.

git clone -b fixes/0.25 git://github.com/MythTV/mythtv.git

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Doug,

Thanks. It has been a long time since I wrote c++ but there is nothing
obvious. It looks like the device name is being found (seems to be passing
the test) and the fail is on. The device name appears to be the audio
device line out of the GUI with the left 5 characters removed.

if (AlsaBad(snd_pcm_open(&pcm_handle, alsa_device.constData(),
SND_PCM_STREAM_CAPTURE, 0), // blocking mode
"pcm open failed"))

Looks like I am going to have to look into the ALSA code to figure out what
snd_pcm_open is looking for.

Dave
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
On 27/05/2013 1:17 PM, Dave Matthews wrote:
> I am running MythTV 0.25 on Ubuntu. The machine had a failed upgrade
> to 12.04 from 11.something and would not boot. A fresh install of
> 12.04 was done to a new drive and the database and recording
> directories brought over from the old drive. OTA recoding works fine.
> I also use a V4L analog input for a feed out of my satellite receiver.
> I get video recorded but not audio. Troubleshooting I find this in the
> mythtvbackend.log file.
>
> May 27 10:31:42 htpc mythbackend[3160]: I TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:3989
> (TuningNewRecorder) TVRec(1): rec->GetPathname():
> '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1110_20130527103200.nuv'
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E TVRecEvent
> audioinputalsa.cpp:336 (AlsaBad) *AudioInALSA(default:CARD=CA0106):
> pcm open failed:* Invalid argument
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E TVRecEvent
> NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:772 (AudioInit) NVR(/dev/video0): Failed to
> open audio device ALSA:default:CARD=CA0106
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E TVRecEvent
> NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:700 (Initialize) NVR(/dev/video0): Failed to
> init audio input device
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: N Scheduler autoexpire.cpp:263
> (CalcParams) AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 2.0 GB
> w/freq: 15 min
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: I Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2033
> (HandleReschedule) Reschedule requested for id 0.
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E NVRAudio
> audioinputalsa.cpp:336 (AlsaBad) AudioInALSA(default:CARD=CA0106): pcm
> open failed: Invalid argument
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E NVRAudio
> NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:2380 (doAudioThread) NVR(/dev/video0): Failed
> to open audio device ALSA:default:CARD=CA0106
> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: I Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2093
> (HandleReschedule) Scheduled 2 items in 0.2 = 0.00 match + 0.21 place
>
> This is the parameter that was in place for years on the old
> installation. The CA0106 is a soundblaster PCI card. Something has
> changed in 12.04. How should I adjust the parameter so Mythtv gets
> the right sound input device?
> Alternatively - where can I get the 0.25 sources so that I figure out
> what is being called? Google found 0.26 and 0.27pre but not the 0.25.
>
> Dave

Just a shot in the dark here, is it possible the device name got changed
in the upgrade? What does 'aplay -L' show for available audio devices
and are the permissions on the audio devices are correct?

HTH,

Andrew.
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On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Andrew Stadt <acstadt@stadt.ca> wrote:

> On 27/05/2013 1:17 PM, Dave Matthews wrote:
>
>> I am running MythTV 0.25 on Ubuntu. The machine had a failed upgrade to
>> 12.04 from 11.something and would not boot. A fresh install of 12.04 was
>> done to a new drive and the database and recording directories brought over
>> from the old drive. OTA recoding works fine. I also use a V4L analog input
>> for a feed out of my satellite receiver. I get video recorded but not
>> audio. Troubleshooting I find this in the mythtvbackend.log file.
>>
>> May 27 10:31:42 htpc mythbackend[3160]: I TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:3989
>> (TuningNewRecorder) TVRec(1): rec->GetPathname():
>> '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/**1110_20130527103200.nuv'
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E TVRecEvent
>> audioinputalsa.cpp:336 (AlsaBad) *AudioInALSA(default:CARD=**CA0106):
>> pcm open failed:* Invalid argument
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E TVRecEvent
>> NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:772 (AudioInit) NVR(/dev/video0): Failed to open
>> audio device ALSA:default:CARD=CA0106
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E TVRecEvent
>> NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:700 (Initialize) NVR(/dev/video0): Failed to init
>> audio input device
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: N Scheduler autoexpire.cpp:263
>> (CalcParams) AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free Space: 2.0 GB
>> w/freq: 15 min
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: I Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2033
>> (HandleReschedule) Reschedule requested for id 0.
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E NVRAudio audioinputalsa.cpp:336
>> (AlsaBad) AudioInALSA(default:CARD=**CA0106): pcm open failed: Invalid
>> argument
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: E NVRAudio
>> NuppelVideoRecorder.cpp:2380 (doAudioThread) NVR(/dev/video0): Failed to
>> open audio device ALSA:default:CARD=CA0106
>> May 27 10:31:44 htpc mythbackend[3160]: I Scheduler scheduler.cpp:2093
>> (HandleReschedule) Scheduled 2 items in 0.2 = 0.00 match + 0.21 place
>>
>> This is the parameter that was in place for years on the old
>> installation. The CA0106 is a soundblaster PCI card. Something has changed
>> in 12.04. How should I adjust the parameter so Mythtv gets the right sound
>> input device?
>>
>> Alternatively - where can I get the 0.25 sources so that I figure out
>> what is being called? Google found 0.26 and 0.27pre but not the 0.25.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> Just a shot in the dark here, is it possible the device name got changed
> in the upgrade? What does 'aplay -L' show for available audio devices and
> are the permissions on the audio devices are correct?
>
> HTH,
>
> Andrew.
>
>
>
I think I have it figured out. Ubuntu switched to Pulseaudio being the
default and that is what is causing the grief. They have a device picker
that was conflicting with gnome-alsamixer. I didn't realize that I was
turning things on and off in alsa with their GUI tool that I was using to
look at the sound system. Would it have been so difficult to get the state
of the sound system at app startup and indicate which devices were set as
default? I found this by ripping the soundblaster out of the machine and
trying to set up with the internal card (simplify the system to
troubleshoot). The plan for tonight is to put the soundblaster back in and
use the Ubuntu Sound Settings tool to pick the correct input and output
devices. Then I will set up MythTV to use either the default alsa devices
or to use pulse. If that doesn't work I will download Debian and dump
Ubuntu. It used to work so well until they decided to go off into never
never land and try to emulate Apple.

Dave
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
Oops, didn't mean to leave the subject blank. I'll only re-post if I don't
get responses.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 9:39 PM, Jonno <jonnojohnson@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a combined BE/FE mythbuntu machine. All of a sudden today the
> recordings aren't showing up in the recordings page. It does show that I
> have 90% of my storage used so it's not like it can't find the storage
> directory.
> I can access and play the recordings over mythweb.
>
> Any thoughts? I've done the optimize tables etc for the database.
>
Re: (no subject) [ In reply to ]
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 8:00 pm, mythtv-users-request@mythtv.org wrote:
>
>> [for the ignorant like me 11n is 300M bits/sec]
>
> No it isn't.
> Like any wireless system, it's speed is "up to ..." and of course the marketing types will quote the maximum theoretical figures even if the only people in the world who can achieve that are engineers in a screened lab with perfect conditions and no interference from the neighbours.
>
> I recall reading of some research a few years ago that showed that in some places (eg blocks of flats and so on with dense coverage of WiFi routers), the actual throughput of WiFi on the 2.4G band was "naff all" as 95% of the theoretical bandwidth available was taken up by signalling - with the remaining 5% being shared between all the users.
>
> As already said, if you can, try the 5.8G band - not only is it less busy (still lots of 2.4G only kit around), there are more channels, and the signals travel shorter distances through buildings so less interference from neighbours.
>
>
> Better WiFi kit is now starting to employ "band steering" that will force client devices onto the 5.8G band where both ends support it and the signal is adequate for just these reasons.
>
>
> I'd suggest downloading iStumbler and exploring how much WiFi you have around you. If there's a lot then you can expect poor WiFi throughput.
>
>
> I *always* recommend cabled connections where practical. Short of faulty components/equipment, I've yet to see a situation where a cabled connection isn't superior in performance and reliability to wireless - but obviously it lacks the mobility element.
> At work we have a client who has just built an extension for a new office - we weren't consulted in any way or we'd have advised them accordingly. They put cabling in for phones and power - but said "we'll use WiFi". Last I heard their IT guy was pulling some cables in and clipping them along the new walls :-/

Simon thanks. Spoiled Aussies my nearest and only neighbour router is 50m away.
I too stick to wires, BUT macbook has *only* a USBC socket and you can but I’ve not put a suitable hub on it. I tried a 5th Gen i3 NUC (using the onboad wireless) and it was perfect.

I put an old eeepc and the macbook side by side and downloaded (scp) 200M. Rate on eee 4.5 MByte / sec while on the macbook 450 kByte / sec. (4.5 MByte is close to 53 MBit hmmm) So I guess a trip to apple shop is warranted.

Thanks all. With 20/20 hindsight that was so easy to do that I ought to have done it and spared the list the noise. Well a line in the sand: with a good wifi connection and 802.11g you can get flawless mythtv.

James
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On 7 February 2018 at 23:25, Justin Smith <justin@smithpolglase.com> wrote:
>
> My frontend log doesn't show anything than a failure to connect to the
> backend. The log is here:
>
> https://pastebin.com/ZsQ8b4rg
>
> Cheers,
> Justin.
>

Hi Justin,

There have been multiple threads on here recently about Ubuntu being unable
to connect to the database after an upgrade, due to the database listening
on the wrong port due to a configuration change issue in mysql/mariadb.

I would suggest you go through those, as it looks like the same issue all
over again.