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Just sooo disgusted with Sky...
... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out
how much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.

So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online /
satellite services... no digital terrestrial here!

I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a
TBS6905 card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with
Netflix etc. Comments on card choice?

I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
with this??? Will 2 be enough?

I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
remote, from what I've read lately (:

Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.

Cheers,

Steve

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Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP
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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
On 2016-05-20 14:07, steve wrote:
>
> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got
> experience with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>

I have four tuners (terrestrial, not satellite). Can't say that I can
recall ever needing all four, but three in use is not unusual. Just
depends on how many multiplexes you are likely to need to record/watch
from simultaneously.


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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
I have two tuners and we run out maybe once a week.

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:24 PM, <mike.brady@devnull.net.nz> wrote:
> On 2016-05-20 14:07, steve wrote:
>>
>>
>> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got
>> experience with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>>
>
> I have four tuners (terrestrial, not satellite). Can't say that I can
> recall ever needing all four, but three in use is not unusual. Just depends
> on how many multiplexes you are likely to need to record/watch from
> simultaneously.
>
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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
On Fri, 20 May 2016 14:07:25 +1200, you wrote:

>... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out
>how much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.
>
>So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online /
>satellite services... no digital terrestrial here!
>
>I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
>and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a
>TBS6905 card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with
>Netflix etc. Comments on card choice?
>
>I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
>with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>
>I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
>remote, from what I've read lately (:
>
>Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Steve

For FreeviewHD from DVB-T, I need three tuners several times a week.
There are 4 DVB-T muxes, so you would never need more than 4 DVB-T
tuners, but I have found 3 is fine.

For Freeview from DVB-S, there are 2 Freeview muxs on Optus D1, but
there are some other Freeview channels that are broadcast by Sky on
their muxes, so you probably need at least 3 DVB-S tuners these days
to record happily from Freeview.

I have just run new scans of all the transponders I use. Here are the
results for FreeviewHD (DVB-T):

[[Tuning to 530000 Hz]]
Apna
Television;Kordia:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:501:0:0:0:1501:8746:34:0
Al
Jazeera;Kordia:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:502:0:0:0:1502:8746:34:0
Yes
Shop;Kordia:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:503:0:0:0:1503:8746:34:0
TVSN
Shopping;Kordia:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:504:0:0:0:1504:8746:34:0
TV29;Kordia:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:505:0:0:0:1505:8746:34:0
Radio NZ
National;Kordia:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:506:0:0:0:1507:8746:34:0
Hope
Channel;JDA:530000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:507:0:0:0:1506:8746:34:0
[[Tuning to 562000 Hz]]
TV3;Mediaworks:562000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:450:410;410:0:0:1300:8746:31:0
FOUR;Mediaworks:562000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:451:0:0:0:1301:8746:31:0
TV3
PLUS1;Mediaworks:562000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:452:0:0:0:1302:8746:31:0
FOUR Plus
1;Mediaworks:562000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:456:0:0:0:1306:8746:31:0
The Edge
TV;Mediaworks:562000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:455:0:0:0:1305:8746:31:0
[[Tuning to 578000 Hz]]
TV
ONE;TVNZ:578000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:270:421;421:0:0:1200:8746:27:0
TV2;TVNZ:578000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:271:422;422:0:0:1201:8746:27:0
DUKE;TVNZ:578000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:274:0:0:0:1205:8746:27:0
TV ONE plus
1;TVNZ:578000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:272:0:0:0:1206:8746:27:0
TV2+1;TVNZ:578000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:273:0:0:0:1207:8746:27:0
[[Tuning to 594000 Hz]]
Maori
Television;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:550:0:0:0:1400:8746:33:0
Parliament;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:551:0:0:0:1401:8746:33:0
The Shopping
Channel;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:552:0:0:0:1410:8746:33:0
ChineseTV;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:553:0:0:0:1403:8746:33:0
PRIME;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:554:0:0:0:1404:8746:33:0
TV33;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:555+8155:0:0:0:1405:8746:33:0
ChoiceTV;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:556:0:0:0:1407:8746:33:0
Te
Reo;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:557:0:0:0:1409:8746:33:0
Firstlight;Kordia:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:558:0:0:0:1414:8746:33:0
[058e];:594000:I0B999C0D0M64T2G32Y0:T:27500:559:0:0:0:1422:8746:33:0

This is Freeview DVB-S (2 muxes):

[[Tuning to 12456000 Hz]]
TV3;Mediaworks:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:512+8185:650=eng:750:0:1920:47:21:0
TV3;Mediaworks:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:509+8185:647=eng:712:0:1917:47:21:0
TV3;Mediaworks:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:510+8185:648=eng:712:0:1918:47:21:0
TV3;Mediaworks:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:511+8185:649=eng:712:0:1919:47:21:0
FOUR;Mediaworks:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:513+8185:651=eng:712:0:1921:47:21:0
TV3
PLUS1;Mediaworks:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:518+8185:656=eng:712:0:1926:47:21:0
The Shopping
Channel;Kordia:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:529:667=eng:0:0:1915:47:21:0
Choice TV;Kordia Ltd:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:514:652=eng:0:0:1941:47:21:0
Hope Channel;Kordia:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:516:654=eng:0:0:1916:47:21:0
Shine TV;Kordia Ltd:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:530:673=eng:0:0:1927:47:21:0
Parliament TV;Kordia
Ltd:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:515:653=eng,690=ang:0:0:1923:47:21:0
Te Reo;Maori
Television:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:517:655=eng:0:0:1925:47:21:0
Radio NZ National;Radio New
Zealand:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:0:659=eng:0:0:1929:47:21:0
Radio NZ Concert;Radio New
Zealand:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:0:660=eng:0:0:1930:47:21:0
[078b];:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:0:661=eng:0:0:1931:47:21:0
[077a];:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:0:663=eng:0:0:1914:47:21:0
GeorgeFM;GeorgeFM:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:0:665=eng:0:0:1935:47:21:0
BaseFM;Kordia Ltd:1706:HM2:S0.0W:22500:0:666=eng:0:0:1936:47:21:0
[[Tuning to 12483000 Hz]]
Maori Television;Maori
Television:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:514:652=eng:0:0:1025:47:22:0
TV
ONE;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:515:653=eng,663=ita:579:0:1035:47:22:0
TV2;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:516:654=eng,664=ita:580:0:1036:47:22:0
TV ONE plus
1;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:518:656=eng,665=ita:582:0:1037:47:22:0
TV2+1;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:512:650=eng,666=ita:581:0:1038:47:22:0
DUKE;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:520:658=eng,667=ita:583:0:1904:47:22:0
TV ONE;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:519:657=eng:579:0:1908:47:22:0
TV ONE;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:513:651=eng:579:0:1909:47:22:0
TV ONE;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:517:655=eng:579:0:1910:47:22:0
;TVNZ:1733:HM2:S0.0W:22500:515:653=eng,663=ita:579:0:12501:47:22:0

and this is Sky, which includes some of the Freeview channels:

[[Tuning to 12267000 Hz]]
SKY Sport 3
HD;SkyNZ:1517:H:S0.0W:22500:1001:1111=ang;1101=ang:0:0:1174:169:9:0
SKY Sport 4
HD;SkyNZ:1517:H:S0.0W:22500:1002:1112=ang;1102=ang:0:0:1201:169:9:0
ESPN HD;SkyNZ:1517:H:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:0:0:1175:169:9:0
SoHo HD;SkyNZ:1517:H:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105;1105:0:0:1170:169:9:0
SKY ARENA HD;SkyNZ:1517:H:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106;1106:0:0:1181:169:9:0
THE ZONE HD;SkyNZ:1517:H:S0.0W:22500:1016:1116;1116:0:0:1251:169:9:0
[[Tuning to 12295000 Hz]]
Sport Pop-up
HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101;1101:0:0:1202:169:10:0
Sport Pop-up
HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102;1102:0:0:1203:169:10:0
ESPN2 HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1223:169:10:0
SM Classics
HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105;1105:0:0:1219:169:10:0
SM Action HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1004:1104;1104:0:0:1221:169:10:0
Prime HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107;1107:1907:0:1211:169:10:0
Sport Pop-up
HD;SkyNZ:1545:H:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103;1103:1903:0:1204:169:10:0
[[Tuning to 12331000 Hz]]
SKY Sport 1
HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1001:1111=ang;1101=ang:0:0:1161:169:7:0
SM Premiere
HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102;1102:0:0:1163:169:7:0
SKY Sport 2
HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1003:1113=ang;1103=ang:0:0:1162:169:7:0
[0444];:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1004:1104;1104:0:0:1092:169:7:0
TAB Tside 1
HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng,1116=ang:0:0:1249:169:7:0
SM Disney HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107;1107:0:0:1245:169:7:0
SM Disney HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107;1107:0:0:1501:169:7:0
Zone Pop-up
HD;SkyNZ:1581:H:S0.0W:22500:1025:1125;1125:0:0:1215:169:7:0
[[Tuning to 12358000 Hz]]
SM Greats HD;SkyNZ:1608:H:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101;1101:0:0:1164:169:8:0
TV ONE
HD;SkyNZ:1608:H:S0.0W:22500:1002:1112=ita;1102=ita:1902:0:1171:169:8:0
TV3 HD;SkyNZ:1608:H:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103;1103:1903:0:1165:169:8:0
TV2
HD;SkyNZ:1608:H:S0.0W:22500:1004:1114=ita;1104=ita:1904:0:1172:169:8:0
SM Extra HD;SkyNZ:1608:H:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105;1105:0:0:1216:169:8:0
TAB Tside 2
HD;SkyNZ:1608:H:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng,1116=ang:0:0:1250:169:8:0
[[Tuning to 12394000 Hz]]
RT;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1058:169:13:0
Star Plus
Hindi;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=hin:0:0:1091:169:13:0
Playboy;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009:1109=eng:0:0:1075:169:13:0
[0448];:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1008:1108=eng:0:0:1096:169:13:0
Sport
Pop-up;SKYNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1116:169:13:0
THE ZONE;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1014:1114=eng:0:0:1253:169:13:0
Disney
Junior;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105=eng:1905:0:1045:169:13:0
CNBC;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1010:1110=eng:0:0:1095:169:13:0
Star Gold;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=hin:0:0:1240:169:13:0
TFC;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=fil:0:0:1237:169:13:0
SCM;SkyNZ:1644:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102=grc,1112=goh:0:0:1238:169:13:0
[[Tuning to 12421000 Hz]]
SKY ARTS;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng:0:0:1029:169:14:0
MTV
Music;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102=eng:1902:0:1180:169:14:0
CI;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:1903:0:1049:169:14:0
Nick Jr.;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004:1104=eng:0:0:1184:169:14:0
BBC
Knowledge;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:1906:0:1059:169:14:0
Nickelodeon;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=eng:1907:0:1024:169:14:0
TAB
Trackside1;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009:1109=eng,1119=ang:1909:0:1043:169:14:0
Daystar;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1010:1110=eng:0:0:1051:169:14:0
Al Jazeera;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1212:169:14:0
Disney
XD;SkyNZ:1671:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1018:1118=eng:1918:0:1246:169:14:0
[[Tuning to 12519000 Hz]]
SM
Premiere;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001+8181:1101=eng:0:0:1002:169:3:0
Preview ;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1000:169:3:0
Preview;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1050:169:3:0
Preview;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:319:169:3:0
RNZ National;Radio New Zealand
National:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1151=eng:0:0:1101:169:3:0
RNZ Concert;Radio New Zealand
Concert:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1152=eng:0:0:1102:169:3:0
Classical;Classical - Elegant
Pieces:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1155=eng:0:0:1130:169:3:0
Kids;Kids - Music and
Tunes:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1156=eng:0:0:1131:169:3:0
NZ Music Month         ;Celebrating NZ Music
Month:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1157=eng:0:0:1133:169:3:0
Ad Tracks;Ad Track:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1158=eng:0:0:1197:169:3:0
TS3 IEPG Data
Service;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1160:0:0:9003:169:3:0
Tahu FM;Tahu FM - Music From The
South:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1159=eng:0:0:1105:169:3:0
EPG Background
Audio;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1160=eng:0:0:330:169:3:0
Test
1;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1013+8183:1113=eng:1913:0:1530:169:3:0
Test
2;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1014+8184:1114=eng:1914:0:1510:169:3:0
Test 3;SkyNZ:1769:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1015+8185:1115=eng:0:0:1511:169:3:0
[[Tuning to 12546000 Hz]]
SKY Sport
1;SkyNZ29:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng,1121=ang:0:0:1008:169:4:0
SKY Sport
4;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=eng,1127=ang:0:0:1054:169:4:0
Food
Television;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1008:1108=eng:0:0:1052:169:4:0
Living Channel;Living
Channel:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002+8182:1102=eng:0:0:1022:169:4:0
Calvary;Calvary Chapel
Radio:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1154=eng:0:0:1107:169:4:0
Real Good Life;Real Good Life - FM
99.4:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1157=grc:0:0:1088:169:4:0
New Supremo;New Supremo - AM
936:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1158=goh:0:0:1089:169:4:0
History
Channel;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003+8183:1103=eng:1903:0:1016:169:4:0
Licence Included;Licence
Included:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1155=eng:0:0:1195:169:4:0
Ad Tracks - All;Ad Tracks -
All:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1156=eng:0:0:1196:169:4:0
YESSHOP;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1010:1110=eng:0:0:1213:169:4:0
Auxiliary;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng,1211=ang:1911:0:1198:169:4:0
TCM;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009:1109=eng:1909:0:1044:169:4:0
Fox
News;SkyNZ:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005+8185:1105=eng:0:0:1057:169:4:0
Blues;Blues - Never Felt So
Good:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1159=eng:0:0:1132:169:4:0
FM 104.2;FM 104.2:1796:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1160=goh:0:0:1090:169:4:0
[[Tuning to 12581000 Hz]]
SKY Sport
2;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng,1121=ang:0:0:1009:169:1:0
Rugby
Channel;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002+8182:1102=nzl:0:0:1005:169:1:0
Vibe;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004+8184:1104=eng:0:0:1041:169:1:0
UKTV;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005+8185:1105=eng:1905:0:1003:169:1:0
CCTV News;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1093:169:1:0
Nat
Geographic;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=eng:1907:0:1012:169:1:0
BBC World;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009:1109=eng:0:0:1026:169:1:0
TVSN
Shopping;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1210:169:1:0
NZ Chart;NZ Chart - Top 40
Hits:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1157=eng:0:0:1120:169:1:0
Pop;Pop - 90's to
Today:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1158=eng:0:0:1121:169:1:0
Smooth;Smooth - Sounds to
Soothe:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1159=eng:0:0:1122:169:1:0
The Edge;The Edge - Hit Music
Now:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1160=eng:0:0:1100:169:1:0
SKY News;SkyNZ:1831:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:0:0:1017:169:1:0
[[Tuning to 12608000 Hz]]
the BOX;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng:0:0:1001:169:2:0
SKY Sport
3;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102=eng,1122=ang:0:0:1048:169:2:0
JONES!;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003+8183:1103=eng:0:0:1190:169:2:0
Discovery;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004+8184:1104=eng:1904:0:1013:169:2:0
E!;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=eng:0:0:1021:169:2:0
SM Greats;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1008:1108=eng:0:0:1053:169:2:0
Sport
Pop-up;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1115:169:2:0
Jazz;Jazz - The Masters of
Jazz:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1155=eng:0:0:1124:169:2:0
House;House - Up-Tempo House
Hits:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1156=eng:0:0:1125:169:2:0
50's & 60's;50's & 60's - Rock 'n
Roll:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1157=eng:0:0:1126:169:2:0
Party;Party - Boogie on
Down:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1158=eng:0:0:1127:169:2:0
TLC;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:1906:0:1243:169:2:0
Rock;Rock - Turn it
Up:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1159=eng:0:0:1128:169:2:0
Country;Country - Nashville
Sounds:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1160=eng:0:0:1129:169:2:0
SCC;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005+8185:1105=goh:0:0:1239:169:2:0
Cartoon
Network;SkyNZ:1858:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009:1109=eng:1909:0:1006:169:2:0
[[Tuning to 12644000 Hz]]
SM Extra;SkyNZ19:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng:0:0:1023:169:5:0
SoHo;SkyNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102=eng:0:0:1179:169:5:0
The Edge TV;SkyNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004:1104=eng:0:0:1255:169:5:0
ESPN;SkyNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105=eng:0:0:1010:169:5:0
SKY ARENA;SkyNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1060:169:5:0
FACE TV;SkyNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1010:1110=eng:0:0:1187:169:5:0
SonLife;SKYNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1218:169:5:0
FOUR
PLUS1;SkyNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:1903:0:1254:169:5:0
Zone Pop-up;SKYNZ:1894:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1018:1118=eng:0:0:1214:169:5:0
[[Tuning to 12671000 Hz]]
TAB
Trackside2;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng,1111=ang:1901:0:1011:169:6:0
SM
Classics;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002+8182:1102=eng:0:0:1004:169:6:0
Rialto;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:0:0:1020:169:6:0
Sport Mosaic
S;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004:1157=eng,1158=fre,1155=ger,1156=jpn,1152=hin,1151=kor:0:0:1442:169:6:0
SM Action;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1217:169:6:0
Grooves;Grooves - Soul & Acid
Jazz:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1153=eng:0:0:1123:169:6:0
Grooves iTV;Grooves
iTV:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:0:1154=eng:0:0:607:169:6:0
Upgrade
Channel;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:8102+8182:1154=eng:0:0:1189:169:6:0
TAB TS2
Retail;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1111=ang:1901:0:1252:169:6:0
SM Disney;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1014:1114=eng:0:0:1244:169:6:0
SM Disney;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1014:1114=eng:0:0:1500:169:6:0
Discovery
Turbo;SkyNZ:1921:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105=eng:1905:0:1242:169:6:0
[[Tuning to 12707000 Hz]]
Prime;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001+8190:1101=eng:1901:0:1018:169:11:0
Prime;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002+8190:1102=eng:1902:0:1055:169:11:0
MTV;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:1903:0:1039:169:11:0
Comedy
Central;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004:1104=eng:0:0:1042:169:11:0
CNN;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105=eng:0:0:1015:169:11:0
Country TV;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1098:169:11:0
Animal
Planet;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=eng:1907:0:1014:169:11:0
Disney
Channel;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1008:1108=eng:1908:0:1027:169:11:0
Prime;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009+8190:1109=eng:1909:0:1056:169:11:0
GARAGE;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1010:1110=eng:0:0:1007:169:11:0
Shopping
Channel;SkyNZ:1957:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1185:169:11:0
[[Tuning to 12734000 Hz]]
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng:0:0:1061:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1001:1101=eng:0:0:1182:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102=eng:0:0:1062:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1002:1102=eng:0:0:1183:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:0:0:1063:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1003:1103=eng:0:0:1194:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1004:1104=eng:0:0:1064:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1005:1105=eng:0:0:1065:169:12:0
SKY Box
Office;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1006:1106=eng:0:0:1066:169:12:0
Desire TV;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1008:1108=eng:0:0:1076:169:12:0
Brazzers
TV;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1009:1109=eng:0:0:1077:169:12:0
ESPN2;SKYNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1010:1110=eng:0:0:1222:169:12:0
Colors;SkyNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1007:1107=hin:0:0:1241:169:12:0
Sport
Pop-up;SKYNZ:1984:HC34:S0.0W:22500:1011:1111=eng:0:0:1117:169:12:0

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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
My frontends include 2 x FireTVs, 1 x Google Nexus Player and 1 x Intel NUC
with LibreELEC (and my Debian computer)

The LibreELEC box performs really well except that is a Kodi only device.
The Kodi addon for Netflix requires Chrome which is not in LibreELEC.

The other devices have both Kodi and NetFlix apps. Netflix performs well on
all of them but Kodi MythTV FF and Rewind are not good on the early AFTV or
the Nexus Player.

I should have tried, for interest, a Chromebook which I could have borrowed
from Nick before he moved over the hill.

Rob

On 20 May 2016 at 14:07, steve <steve@greengecko.co.nz> wrote:

> ... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out how
> much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.
>
> So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online / satellite
> services... no digital terrestrial here!
>
> I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
> and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a TBS6905
> card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with Netflix etc.
> Comments on card choice?
>
> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
> with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>
> I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
> remote, from what I've read lately (:
>
> Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
> --
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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
Hi Steve,
you will need 3 dvb-S tuners for hassle free FTA.
IF you want to chase non-NZ FTA then 4 tuners will be needed.
Noel

On 20 May 2016 at 14:07, steve <steve@greengecko.co.nz> wrote:

> ... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out how
> much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.
>
> So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online / satellite
> services... no digital terrestrial here!
>
> I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
> and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a TBS6905
> card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with Netflix etc.
> Comments on card choice?
>
> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
> with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>
> I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
> remote, from what I've read lately (:
>
> Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
> --
> Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP
> http://www.greengecko.co.nz
> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steveholdoway
> Skype: sholdowa
>
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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
On 20/05/16 14:07, steve wrote:
> ... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out
> how much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.
>
> So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online /
> satellite services... no digital terrestrial here!
>
> I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
> and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a
> TBS6905 card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with
> Netflix etc. Comments on card choice?
>
> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
> with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>
> I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
> remote, from what I've read lately (:
>
> Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.


Personally, its TV. I don't really care if its in HD or SD, 99% of
stuff is kid's crap and movies for Mrs Criggie.

Online/streaming services aren't really a part of myth. Probably cos
there's a lot too much variability in how they're provided, plus
copyright issues will always be there... I doubt "timeshifting" is a
justifiable excuse for recording, when the content is streamed on-demand!

Can you even reliably watch a stream at home? I do recall the number
of grumbles from your corner of the harbour about DSL and vodafone.

If you had snottingly good connectivity at home, you could put your
backend elsewhere to your frontend(s), like on the Town side of the hill.

I have two older DVB-S tuners and that's all you need for Satellite
service, plus a dish / LNB etc.


Satellite is always Standard Definition, but its still digital so looks
okay.
Terrestrial can be High Def or SD. But the content may be HD or
up-scaled SD.... its not like MASH is in 1080!





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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
On 05/20/2016 10:50 PM, criggie wrote:
> On 20/05/16 14:07, steve wrote:
>> ... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out
>> how much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.
>>
>> So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online /
>> satellite services... no digital terrestrial here!
>>
>> I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
>> and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a
>> TBS6905 card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with
>> Netflix etc. Comments on card choice?
>>
>> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
>> with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>>
>> I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
>> remote, from what I've read lately (:
>>
>> Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.
>
> Personally, its TV. I don't really care if its in HD or SD, 99% of
> stuff is kid's crap and movies for Mrs Criggie.
>
> Online/streaming services aren't really a part of myth. Probably cos
> there's a lot too much variability in how they're provided, plus
> copyright issues will always be there... I doubt "timeshifting" is a
> justifiable excuse for recording, when the content is streamed on-demand!
>
> Can you even reliably watch a stream at home? I do recall the number
> of grumbles from your corner of the harbour about DSL and vodafone.
>
> If you had snottingly good connectivity at home, you could put your
> backend elsewhere to your frontend(s), like on the Town side of the hill.
>
> I have two older DVB-S tuners and that's all you need for Satellite
> service, plus a dish / LNB etc.
>
>
> Satellite is always Standard Definition, but its still digital so looks
> okay.
> Terrestrial can be High Def or SD. But the content may be HD or
> up-scaled SD.... its not like MASH is in 1080!
>
>
>
>
>
Download speeds are OK... up to 1.2MB/s on ADSL, so that should cover
most things OK. What I'm looking to do is to replicate what the sky box
does for max WAF - so selecting freeview, online resources or locally
stored stuff from the same interface is preferred ( Harmony 650 is on
it's way! ).

I got the SolidRun box working eventually - apparently if you build it
up on a system with a dumb monitor, then the option of audio over hdmi
doesn't get installed. Tedious. Then once I'd got it running in the
office, I moved it into the house, plugged into the poineer home theatre
amp I've got, and... no picture. So I think I've had enough of this box,
and will go mainstream x86_64 hardware instead ( it runs very hot too ).

So I'll probably build a standalone system rather than front/back end
stuff. Any current hardware recommendations I can stick a PCIe (
preferably ) card into to get the satellite feed?

Sorry to be asking so many questions...


Steve

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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Robert Fisher <robert@fisher.net.nz> wrote:

> My frontends include 2 x FireTVs, 1 x Google Nexus Player and 1 x Intel
> NUC with LibreELEC (and my Debian computer)
>
> The LibreELEC box performs really well except that is a Kodi only device.
> The Kodi addon for Netflix requires Chrome which is not in LibreELEC.
>


Yes it is!


>
> The other devices have both Kodi and NetFlix apps. Netflix performs well
> on all of them but Kodi MythTV FF and Rewind are not good on the early AFTV
> or the Nexus Player.
>
> I should have tried, for interest, a Chromebook which I could have
> borrowed from Nick before he moved over the hill.
>
> Rob
>
> On 20 May 2016 at 14:07, steve <steve@greengecko.co.nz> wrote:
>
>> ... as I leave it to SWMBO to pay the bills, I've only just found out how
>> much we're paying to re-re-re-watch the same old crap.
>>
>> So, looking to build up some PVR system to incorporate online / satellite
>> services... no digital terrestrial here!
>>
>> I was looking to build up a backend - as I've got plenty of linux grunt
>> and storage lying around, just not in the living room - and use a TBS6905
>> card and a couple of dishes - Optus D1 and D2, along with Netflix etc.
>> Comments on card choice?
>>
>> I was also wondering if you've ever need 4 tuners? Anyone got experience
>> with this??? Will 2 be enough?
>>
>> I have a wee solidrun for the frontend, and will be using a harmony
>> remote, from what I've read lately (:
>>
>> Pointers , personal experience / war stories gratefully received.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> --
>> Steve Holdoway BSc(Hons) MIITP
>> http://www.greengecko.co.nz
>> Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/steveholdoway
>> Skype: sholdowa
>>
>>
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Re: Just sooo disgusted with Sky... [ In reply to ]
On 25 May 2016 at 11:09, Nick Rout <nick.rout@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>> The LibreELEC box performs really well except that is a Kodi only device.
>> The Kodi addon for Netflix requires Chrome which is not in LibreELEC.
>>
>
>
> Yes it is!
>

In that case I need to do more research.