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ION based frontend platforms available.
Anyone interested in these? Email me off list.
I'll get some numbers and go for a bulk price.

They're asking $200 each +GST and +Freight for individuals.

If you're interested be quick.

The monitor looks pretty useless though - its not 1080 capable.


UPDATE: they're $175 +GST +Freight for the box without monitor, which
feels steep.


*Model:*



*Acer Veriton N282G Nettop Mini-PC with Windows 7 Pro and bundled with
Acer 20" Widescreen LCD*

*CPU:*



Intel Atom Dual Core 1.8GHz

*Hard Drive :*



160GB SATA

*Memory:*



2GB *DDR3* SODIMM(1066Mhz)

*Optical Drive:*



None

*Graphics:*



Onboard *Nvidia ION Graphics*

*Others:*



6x USB Ports (2x front, 4x rear), 1x Gigabit Ethernet, 1x VGA, *1x
HDMI*, Multicard Reader, no Parallel or Serial ports, 1x Mini PCIe Slot

*OS:*



Windows 7 Pro COA

OS Installation for $20+ GST Extra

*Display:*



Acer V203H 20" Widescreen LCD

5ms, 1600 x 900 Resolution, VGD and DVI Ports

*Others:*



*keyboard, mouse, power and DVI cables Supplied*



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Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
What generation of ION? An lspci would tell me what I want to know :-)


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Criggie <criggie@criggie.org.nz> wrote:

> Anyone interested in these? Email me off list.
> I'll get some numbers and go for a bulk price.
>
> They're asking $200 each +GST and +Freight for individuals.
>
> If you're interested be quick.
>
> The monitor looks pretty useless though - its not 1080 capable.
>
>
> UPDATE: they're $175 +GST +Freight for the box without monitor, which
> feels steep.
>
>
> *Model:*
>
> *Acer Veriton N282G Nettop Mini-PC with Windows 7 Pro and bundled with
> Acer 20" Widescreen LCD*
>
> *CPU: *
>
> Intel Atom Dual Core 1.8GHz
>
> *Hard Drive :*
>
> 160GB SATA
>
> *Memory:*
>
> 2GB * DDR3* SODIMM (1066Mhz)
>
> *Optical Drive:*
>
> None
>
> *Graphics:*
>
> Onboard * Nvidia ION Graphics*
>
> *Others:*
>
> 6x USB Ports (2x front, 4x rear), 1x Gigabit Ethernet, 1x VGA, *1x HDMI*,
> Multicard Reader, no Parallel or Serial ports, 1x Mini PCIe Slot
>
> *OS:*
>
> Windows 7 Pro COA
>
> OS Installation for $20+ GST Extra
>
> *Display:*
>
> Acer V203H 20" Widescreen LCD
>
> 5ms, 1600 x 900 Resolution, VGD and DVI Ports
>
> *Others:*
>
> *keyboard, mouse, power and DVI cables Supplied*
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
No idea - I haven't got one.


However this website
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26962 says

lspci -nn

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation N10 Family DMI Bridge
[8086:a000] (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High
Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI
Express Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 02)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI
Express Port 3 [8086:27d4] (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI
Express Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB
UHCI Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB
UHCI Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB
UHCI Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB
UHCI Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2
EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
[8086:2448] (rev e2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation NM10 Family LPC Controller
[8086:27 bc] (rev 02)
00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA IDE
Controller [8086:27c0] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus
Controller [8086:27da] (rev 02)
*01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT218
[ION] [10de:0a64] (rev a2)*
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio
Controller [10de:0be3] (rev a1)
02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R
PCIe [1814:3090]
03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)


Is that an acceptable version ?



On 12/09/14 19:20, Nick Rout wrote:
> What generation of ION? An lspci would tell me what I want to know :-)
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Criggie <criggie@criggie.org.nz
> <mailto:criggie@criggie.org.nz>> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in these? Email me off list.
> I'll get some numbers and go for a bulk price.
>
> They're asking $200 each +GST and +Freight for individuals.
>
> If you're interested be quick.
>
> The monitor looks pretty useless though - its not 1080 capable.
>
>
> UPDATE: they're $175 +GST +Freight for the box without monitor,
> which feels steep.
>
>
> *Model:*
>
>
>
> *Acer Veriton N282G Nettop Mini-PC with Windows 7 Pro and bundled
> with Acer 20" Widescreen LCD*
>
> *CPU: *
>
>
>
> Intel Atom Dual Core 1.8GHz
>
> *Hard Drive :*
>
>
>
> 160GB SATA
>
> *Memory:*
>
>
>
> 2GB *DDR3* SODIMM (1066Mhz)
>
> *Optical Drive:*
>
>
>
> None
>
> *Graphics:*
>
>
>
> Onboard *Nvidia ION Graphics*
>
> *Others:*
>
>
>
> 6x USB Ports (2x front, 4x rear), 1x Gigabit Ethernet, 1x VGA, *1x
> HDMI*, Multicard Reader, no Parallel or Serial ports, 1x Mini PCIe
> Slot
>
> *OS:*
>
>
>
> Windows 7 Pro COA
>
> OS Installation for $20+ GST Extra
>
> *Display:*
>
>
>
> Acer V203H 20" Widescreen LCD
>
> 5ms, 1600 x 900 Resolution, VGD and DVI Ports
>
> *Others:*
>
>
>
> *keyboard, mouse, power and DVI cables Supplied*
>
>
>
> --
> Criggie
>
>
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Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:36 PM, criggie <criggie@criggie.org.nz> wrote:

> No idea - I haven't got one.
>
>
> However this website
> https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=26962 says
>
> lspci -nn
>
> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation N10 Family DMI Bridge
> [8086:a000] (rev 02)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High
> Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 02)
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express
> Port 1 [8086:27d0] (rev 02)
> 00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express
> Port 3 [8086:27d4] (rev 02)
> 00:1c.3 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express
> Port 4 [8086:27d6] (rev 02)
> 00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI
> Controller #1 [8086:27c8] (rev 02)
> 00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI
> Controller #2 [8086:27c9] (rev 02)
> 00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI
> Controller #3 [8086:27ca] (rev 02)
> 00:1d.3 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI
> Controller #4 [8086:27cb] (rev 02)
> 00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2
> EHCI Controller [8086:27cc] (rev 02)
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
> [8086:2448] (rev e2)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation NM10 Family LPC Controller
> [8086:27 bc] (rev 02)
> 00:1f.2 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA IDE
> Controller [8086:27c0] (rev 02)
> 00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family SMBus Controller
> [8086:27da] (rev 02)
> *01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT218 [ION]
> [10de:0a64] (rev a2)*
> 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio
> Controller [10de:0be3] (rev a1)
> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R
> PCIe [1814:3090]
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06)
>
>
> Is that an acceptable version ?
>
>
>
Your google-fu = my google-fu!

According to nVidia README

Second Generation ION 0x0A64 C
This is a good chipset, I'll take two please

(sorry the ordering should have been off list, but I wanted to share that
it is a good graphics chipset. As long as Acer didn't make it noisy, or
screw up the audio, they will be great mythtv/xbmc machines.)
Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
On 12/09/14 19:20, Nick Rout wrote:
> What generation of ION? An lspci would tell me what I want to know :-)
>


Given criggie sent the PCI list (On 12/09/14 19:36),,,

Is the GT218 OK?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo#Feature_Set_C says it is
type C and the feature set is:


Supports complete acceleration for MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4 Part 2
(a.k.a. MPEG-4 ASP), VC-1/WMV9 and H.264.
Global motion compensation and Data Partitioning are not supported
for MPEG-4 Part 2.

But I am not sure what that means!

Worik


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Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Worik Stanton <worik.stanton@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/09/14 19:20, Nick Rout wrote:
>> What generation of ION? An lspci would tell me what I want to know :-)
>>
>
>
> Given criggie sent the PCI list (On 12/09/14 19:36),,,
>
> Is the GT218 OK?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVideo#Feature_Set_C says it is
> type C and the feature set is:
>
>

Let me translate

> Supports complete acceleration

Acceleration = good

> for MPEG-1,

you won't see this these days


>MPEG-2,

DVD video, Freeview/Sky satellite transmissions


> MPEG-4 Part 2
> (a.k.a. MPEG-4 ASP),

ie Divx/Xvid and cousins


> VC-1/

Found on 18% of blurays according to http://www.blu-raystats.com/

> WMV9

Personally never struck it

> and H.264.

What is on basically all blurays other than the VC1 ones. Also
(importantly for this discussion) on Freeview Terrestrial. Most rips
you download from the internet (did I say that?) will be h264.

In short this chipset will decode anything you throw at it up to
1080p. It will also do pretty good deinterlacing. If you want to
future proof for 4K of HEVC it is not for you. However if you want
something that will look good on your HDTV now and with today's tech,
they are great. I have two REVO R3700s which have the same chipset and
it looks great on my 65 inch TV.

Also the ION2 chipset SHOULD passthrough HD audio (DTS-HDMA and Dolby
TrueHD) if that is your thing. I don't have an amplifier to test that
on, and manufacturers CAN screw this up by bad bios/firmware
implementations. As I have at lest one machine that is known to do HD
audio, and I am unlikely to have more than one HS Audio setup, I am
comfortable buying a couple of these.

ION generation 1 is not so good. It has some noticeable omissions in
frame size in it's decoding abilities, and is often paired with an
inferior single core atom chip.

ION2 is what I want, which is why I asked. It is still Atom, but I
want video playback, not CPU.

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Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 08:22:06PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> In short this chipset will decode anything you throw at it up to
> 1080p. It will also do pretty good deinterlacing. If you want to
> future proof for 4K of HEVC it is not for you. However if you want
> something that will look good on your HDTV now and with today's tech,
> they are great. I have two REVO R3700s which have the same chipset and
> it looks great on my 65 inch TV.

Isn't that a bit precarious or is there a special bracket? :-) SCNR

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Re: ION based frontend platforms available. [ In reply to ]
On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 1:14 AM, Chris Bannister
<cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 08:22:06PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
>> In short this chipset will decode anything you throw at it up to
>> 1080p. It will also do pretty good deinterlacing. If you want to
>> future proof for 4K of HEVC it is not for you. However if you want
>> something that will look good on your HDTV now and with today's tech,
>> they are great. I have two REVO R3700s which have the same chipset and
>> it looks great on my 65 inch TV.
>
> Isn't that a bit precarious or is there a special bracket? :-) SCNR

*groan*

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