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On 9/5/22 12:26, John P Poet wrote:
> I am visiting my mom and updating her MythTV system. During testing I
> have discovered that if you go to the Guide and "Watch this Channel",
> when you exit LiveTV it continues to record that show. I have never
> seen this behavior before and cannot figure out how to turn it off. 
> Can someone please tell me where that setting is? She is running master.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
Hi John

I don't think there is a setting for that.

I just ran a test on latest master, from the guide ran "watch this
channel", watched for 2 minutes and exited. The recording ended as
expected and there is a two minute 18 second recording in the LiveTV group.

There is also a 0 byte recording showing in the LiveTV group, that seems
like a bug.

The only way I can think that you saw it continue recording is if you
invoked the "ToggleRecord"  button (default R) while playing, which
converts your live TV session into a permanent recording.

Peter

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On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 03:41:19PM -0400, Peter Bennett wrote:
>
> On 9/5/22 12:26, John P Poet wrote:
> > I am visiting my mom and updating her MythTV system. During testing I
> > have discovered that if you go to the Guide and "Watch this Channel",
> > when you exit LiveTV it continues to record that show. I have never seen
> > this behavior before and cannot figure out how to turn it off.? Can
> > someone please tell me where that setting is? She is running master.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> Hi John
>
> I don't think there is a setting for that.
>
> I just ran a test on latest master, from the guide ran "watch this channel",
> watched for 2 minutes and exited. The recording ended as expected and there
> is a two minute 18 second recording in the LiveTV group.
>
> There is also a 0 byte recording showing in the LiveTV group, that seems
> like a bug.
>
> The only way I can think that you saw it continue recording is if you
> invoked the "ToggleRecord"? button (default R) while playing, which converts
> your live TV session into a permanent recording.

I agree that ToggleRecord somehow got activated. When activated, it
reserves that tuner for continued recording of the program until it
ends. FWIW, there was an issue reported a while back about that
feature not working. In the process of looking into it, I realized
how crazy the logic is and how badly it can interact with the
scheduler. I could not reproduce the reported problem so I left
things as they were. I still don't have a good solution on how to
better perform the record after starting live TV feature.

David
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On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 2:52 PM David Engel <david@istwok.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 03:41:19PM -0400, Peter Bennett wrote:
> >
> > On 9/5/22 12:26, John P Poet wrote:
> > > I am visiting my mom and updating her MythTV system. During testing I
> > > have discovered that if you go to the Guide and "Watch this Channel",
> > > when you exit LiveTV it continues to record that show. I have never
> seen
> > > this behavior before and cannot figure out how to turn it off. Can
> > > someone please tell me where that setting is? She is running master.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > Hi John
> >
> > I don't think there is a setting for that.
> >
> > I just ran a test on latest master, from the guide ran "watch this
> channel",
> > watched for 2 minutes and exited. The recording ended as expected and
> there
> > is a two minute 18 second recording in the LiveTV group.
> >
> > There is also a 0 byte recording showing in the LiveTV group, that seems
> > like a bug.
> >
> > The only way I can think that you saw it continue recording is if you
> > invoked the "ToggleRecord" button (default R) while playing, which
> converts
> > your live TV session into a permanent recording.
>
> I agree that ToggleRecord somehow got activated. When activated, it
> reserves that tuner for continued recording of the program until it
> ends. FWIW, there was an issue reported a while back about that
> feature not working. In the process of looking into it, I realized
> how crazy the logic is and how badly it can interact with the
> scheduler. I could not reproduce the reported problem so I left
> things as they were. I still don't have a good solution on how to
> better perform the record after starting live TV feature.
>
> David
>

It behaves the same every-single-time I watch a LiveTV show. When I exit
out, it will show up in the Upcoming Recordings list and the tuner will be
unavailable. This is with android frontend running on a Shield and the
backend running on a low powered linux box. I will spend a bit more time
trying to figure it out the next time I am over there.

John

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 6:53 PM John P Poet <jppoet@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 2:52 PM David Engel <david@istwok.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 03:41:19PM -0400, Peter Bennett wrote:
>> >
>> > On 9/5/22 12:26, John P Poet wrote:
>> > > I am visiting my mom and updating her MythTV system. During testing I
>> > > have discovered that if you go to the Guide and "Watch this Channel",
>> > > when you exit LiveTV it continues to record that show. I have never
>> seen
>> > > this behavior before and cannot figure out how to turn it off. Can
>> > > someone please tell me where that setting is? She is running master.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > John
>> > >
>> > >
>> > Hi John
>> >
>> > I don't think there is a setting for that.
>> >
>> > I just ran a test on latest master, from the guide ran "watch this
>> channel",
>> > watched for 2 minutes and exited. The recording ended as expected and
>> there
>> > is a two minute 18 second recording in the LiveTV group.
>> >
>> > There is also a 0 byte recording showing in the LiveTV group, that seems
>> > like a bug.
>> >
>> > The only way I can think that you saw it continue recording is if you
>> > invoked the "ToggleRecord" button (default R) while playing, which
>> converts
>> > your live TV session into a permanent recording.
>>
>> I agree that ToggleRecord somehow got activated. When activated, it
>> reserves that tuner for continued recording of the program until it
>> ends. FWIW, there was an issue reported a while back about that
>> feature not working. In the process of looking into it, I realized
>> how crazy the logic is and how badly it can interact with the
>> scheduler. I could not reproduce the reported problem so I left
>> things as they were. I still don't have a good solution on how to
>> better perform the record after starting live TV feature.
>>
>> David
>>
>
> It behaves the same every-single-time I watch a LiveTV show. When I exit
> out, it will show up in the Upcoming Recordings list and the tuner will be
> unavailable. This is with android frontend running on a Shield and the
> backend running on a low powered linux box. I will spend a bit more time
> trying to figure it out the next time I am over there.
>

I figured out the problem. Somehow the LiveTV recgroup was deleted. When
exiting LiveTV, myth checks if the recgroup is not LiveTV and assumes that
a recording is desired in that /other/ recgroup.

Now I just need to figure out why mythfrontend on the Shield seems to be
unable to download the themes.zip file.

John

On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 19:07 -0700, John P Poet wrote:
>
> Now I just need to figure out why mythfrontend on the Shield seems to
> be unable to download the themes.zip file.

The themes web server was down earlier today. Perhaps that was the
problem.

David

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On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 8:32 PM David Hampton via mythtv-dev <
mythtv-dev@mythtv.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 19:07 -0700, John P Poet wrote:
> >
> > Now I just need to figure out why mythfrontend on the Shield seems to
> > be unable to download the themes.zip file.
>
> The themes web server was down earlier today. Perhaps that was the
> problem.
>

Good to know. Yes, that could be it. Thanks David.

John