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On 11/12/2021 15:15, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Before formally retiring mythweb on RPM Fusion as it doesn't work with
> the latest PHP I wanted to confirm that it will not be updated.
>
> Any reason not to retire it at this point?
>

It will be updated to support php8, (there is an open issue)
as its replacement is not available at this time.

It's currently a matter of testing :)


Regards
Stuart

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>> Some time ago I very rudely described WebFrontend as being for the mobile
>> phone set. I too use MythWeb exclusively because it just works.
>
> Which is ironic since it doesn't work on a mobile phone. The design isn't
> properly responsive so it's pretty much impossible to use on a mobile browser.
>
> Are we talking of the same thing?
>
> http://{backend_ip}:6544/ ?
>
> Of course with the ripping out of the QtScript support I've no idea if this is
> even functional in the current dev build. Though it's been in MythTV for
> years, it still surprises me how few people know of it's existence.
>
>> I want a tool that does my task, with a minimum of fuss and without
>> impressing me as to how clever or artisticly talented the programmers are.
>> If WebFrontend meets those critera then good else we have a situtation
>> where developer talent is diluted trying to maintain MythWeb
>
> Again, not sure if we're talking of the same thing here. No-one has ever
> described me as artistic or clever.

(a) I did say it was a while back (b) I did say .. rudely.. (c) I humbly apologise especially as I've been looking at wots-to-be-done to rewrite and it's huge.
Twas a while back but IIRC it went something like this

Record abc
Oops never record
Ooops do record abc but not def

Until I was so wrapped in knots I could not recover. Eventually I restored that morning's backup, said enough words to get me 500 years in purgetry, wrote my mail and was very grateful for MythWeb.

James
PS yes :6544

On 13 Dec 2021, at 8:00 pm, mythtv-dev-request@mythtv.org wrote:
>
> I briefly touched on it earlier in the thread but another reason for the
> change is so that the functionality of what mythtv-setup provides will
> be available in the new Web Server so you can configure your backend
> from any web browser potentially from any where in the world. So
> basically the backend machine can become a true headless server with no
> need for an UI to run to it.
>
>
> I'm really not trying to piss anyone off. All I'm trying to do is put
> people in the picture of what the plan is and why.

Paul likewise I ment to offer opinions without offending anybody. Clearly I failed hence my sorry to Stuart.
The point was "I use it every day". The beast is dead, the point is hammered home.
James

On 12/13/2021 7:29 AM, Stuart Auchterlonie wrote:
> On 13/12/2021 03:53, faginbagin wrote:
>>
>> If I understand correctly, WebFrontend won't depend on apache or
>> nginx, right? In that case, will it still be possible to configure a
>> reverse proxy on a non-mythtv machine running apache or nginx to
>> expose WebFrontend to the internet? I'd prefer not to have to use a
>> VPN to get to it when I'm not at home.
>>
>
> That's on the required features list :-p
>
>
> Regards
> Stuart

Thanks!
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On 12/12/2021 11:12 PM, Stephen Worthington wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 22:53:31 -0500, you wrote:
>
>> If I understand correctly, WebFrontend won't depend on apache or nginx,
>> right? In that case, will it still be possible to configure a reverse
>> proxy on a non-mythtv machine running apache or nginx to expose
>> WebFrontend to the internet? I'd prefer not to have to use a VPN to get
>> to it when I'm not at home.
> Anything that runs on a TCP port can be proxied. But I would still
> highly recommend using a VPN like OpenVPN or Wireguard instead. They
> are fully secure, where a proxy is inherently not so secure. Once you
> have put in the (significant) effort to make a VPN work, it is simple
> to use, and gives you full access to your home network, not just to
> one port. I have OpenVPN clients on all my devices (phone, tablet,
> laptop), and they are just click to turn on and click to turn off
> again. But I do pay to have static IP addresses, which makes doing a
> VPN server easier.
>
Maybe some day I'll figure out these new fangled things like VPNs. I'll
probably be forced to when my ISP switches from IPV4 to IPV6 and I can't
get by with NAT and my homegrown script & cron job that handles dynamic DNS.

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On 13/12/2021 14:18, James wrote:
> The point was "I use it every day". The beast is dead, the point is
> hammered home.

More like, permanent life support. If people submit PR's to keep it
on life support, and not dead, then we can get them merged.....

php8 support is a good example. nice work to those who have performed
a resurection... :-)


Regards
Stuart

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