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On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 21:10, Paul Harrison <mythtv@mythqml.net> wrote:

> The MythCenterXMAS theme has been updated to make use of the new
> procedural MythUI widget that can run OpenGL shader programs to improve
> the snow effect so it has a smooth scrolling appearance rather than the
> rather jerky one the animated gif image shows.
>
>
> If you want to see the new effect you need a MythTV master build from
> today that has https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/946b344279 and
> you need the updated MythCenterXMAS theme version 1.15 that has been
> updated to take advantage of the new procedural texture support.
>
>
> Looks great and works right out of the box. Movement is very smooth here.
To make it even more realistic there could be some randomization of the
distances between the snowflakes.
I do not know how difficult it is but some variation in the shapes would
also be great.

What I also like, and that is not related to Christmas, is that in the
"Watch Recordings" page the up- and down arrows do wrap around from first
to last and from last to first. This is something I greatly appreciate as
it effectively halves the number of keystrokes needed to get to a specific
recording. My vote is to update MythCenter-wide so that this feature
remains with us after Christmas.

Klaas.

On Monday, 6 December 2021 21:58:08 GMT Klaas de Waal wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 21:10, Paul Harrison <mythtv@mythqml.net> wrote:
...
> What I also like, and that is not related to Christmas, is that in the
> "Watch Recordings" page the up- and down arrows do wrap around from first
> to last and from last to first. This is something I greatly appreciate as
> it effectively halves the number of keystrokes needed to get to a specific
> recording. My vote is to update MythCenter-wide so that this feature
> remains with us after Christmas.
>
> Klaas.

Sorry, but my vote would be to keep Mythcenter-wide scroll action as is.

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On 06/12/2021 22:38, Steve Goodey wrote:
> On Monday, 6 December 2021 21:58:08 GMT Klaas de Waal wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 21:10, Paul Harrison <mythtv@mythqml.net> wrote:
> ...
>> What I also like, and that is not related to Christmas, is that in the
>> "Watch Recordings" page the up- and down arrows do wrap around from first
>> to last and from last to first. This is something I greatly appreciate as
>> it effectively halves the number of keystrokes needed to get to a specific
>> recording. My vote is to update MythCenter-wide so that this feature
>> remains with us after Christmas.
>>
>> Klaas.
>
> Sorry, but my vote would be to keep Mythcenter-wide scroll action as is.
>

See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category_talk:Themes

That includes an out-of-date link which should now go to

https://lists.archive.carbon60.com/mythtv/users/558968#558968

, a long thread (Dec 2013) about both this topic and, in part, whether
a dev's preference might be reported as a bug. :-)

John P

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On Thursday, 9 December 2021 10:37:49 GMT John Pilkington wrote:
> On 06/12/2021 22:38, Steve Goodey wrote:
> > On Monday, 6 December 2021 21:58:08 GMT Klaas de Waal wrote:
> >> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 21:10, Paul Harrison <mythtv@mythqml.net> wrote:
> > ...
> >
> >> What I also like, and that is not related to Christmas, is that in the
> >> "Watch Recordings" page the up- and down arrows do wrap around from first
> >> to last and from last to first. This is something I greatly appreciate as
> >> it effectively halves the number of keystrokes needed to get to a
> >> specific
> >> recording. My vote is to update MythCenter-wide so that this feature
> >> remains with us after Christmas.
> >>
> >> Klaas.
> >
> > Sorry, but my vote would be to keep Mythcenter-wide scroll action as is.
>
> See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category_talk:Themes
>
> That includes an out-of-date link which should now go to
>
> https://lists.archive.carbon60.com/mythtv/users/558968#558968
>
> , a long thread (Dec 2013) about both this topic and, in part, whether
> a dev's preference might be reported as a bug. :-)
>
> John P
>

John,

Thanks for the heads up, URL corrected.

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On 09/12/2021 10:37, John Pilkington wrote:

> On 06/12/2021 22:38, Steve Goodey wrote:
>> On Monday, 6 December 2021 21:58:08 GMT Klaas de Waal wrote:
>>> On Mon, 6 Dec 2021 at 21:10, Paul Harrison <mythtv@mythqml.net> wrote:
>> ...
>>> What I also like, and that is not related to Christmas, is that in the
>>> "Watch Recordings" page the up- and down arrows do wrap around from
>>> first
>>> to last and from last to first. This is something I greatly
>>> appreciate as
>>> it effectively halves the number of keystrokes needed to get to a
>>> specific
>>> recording. My vote is to update MythCenter-wide so that this feature
>>> remains with us after Christmas.
>>>
>>> Klaas.
>>
>> Sorry, but my vote would be to keep Mythcenter-wide scroll action as is.
>>
>
> See  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category_talk:Themes
>
> That includes an out-of-date link which should now go to
>
> https://lists.archive.carbon60.com/mythtv/users/558968#558968
>
> ,  a long thread (Dec 2013) about both this topic and, in part,
> whether a dev's preference might be reported as a bug.  :-)
>
> John P
>
>

The offer to setup a MythCenter-Classic theme if someone steps up to
maintain it is still available as was talked about in that thread :)


I learn a lot by observing how my elderly parents interact with MythTV
and the wrap around lists confuse the hell out of them because there is
no indication you are at the end of the list so they just keep scrolling
not understanding that they are in fact looking at episodes they have
already scrolled through. Having a hard stop at the top and bottom of
the list just makes more sense to me. I maintain my own fork and build
packages from the fork so I can change it to how I want so it's not
really a problem for me if it's changed. Maybe someone can create a poll
somewhere and the majority wins?


Paul H.


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On 12/9/21 14:22, Paul Harrison wrote:
> I learn a lot by observing how my elderly parents interact with MythTV
> and the wrap around lists confuse the hell out of them because there
> is no indication you are at the end of the list so they just keep
> scrolling not understanding that they are in fact looking at episodes
> they have already scrolled through. Having a hard stop at the top and
> bottom of the list just makes more sense to me. I maintain my own fork
> and build packages from the fork so I can change it to how I want so
> it's not really a problem for me if it's changed. Maybe someone can
> create a poll somewhere and the majority wins?
Perhaps it would be better to make this behavior configurable in the
frontend?

Scott
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On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 15:20 -0500, Scott Theisen wrote:
> On 12/9/21 14:22, Paul Harrison wrote:
> > I learn a lot by observing how my elderly parents interact with
> > MythTV
> > and the wrap around lists confuse the hell out of them because
> > there
> > is no indication you are at the end of the list so they just keep
> > scrolling not understanding that they are in fact looking at
> > episodes
> > they have already scrolled through. Having a hard stop at the top
> > and
> > bottom of the list just makes more sense to me. I maintain my own
> > fork
> > and build packages from the fork so I can change it to how I want
> > so
> > it's not really a problem for me if it's changed. Maybe someone can
> > create a poll somewhere and the majority wins?
> Perhaps it would be better to make this behavior configurable in the
> frontend?

+1

David

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On 09/12/2021 20:52, David Hampton via mythtv-dev wrote:

> On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 15:20 -0500, Scott Theisen wrote:
>> On 12/9/21 14:22, Paul Harrison wrote:
>>> I learn a lot by observing how my elderly parents interact with
>>> MythTV
>>> and the wrap around lists confuse the hell out of them because
>>> there
>>> is no indication you are at the end of the list so they just keep
>>> scrolling not understanding that they are in fact looking at
>>> episodes
>>> they have already scrolled through. Having a hard stop at the top
>>> and
>>> bottom of the list just makes more sense to me. I maintain my own
>>> fork
>>> and build packages from the fork so I can change it to how I want
>>> so
>>> it's not really a problem for me if it's changed. Maybe someone can
>>> create a poll somewhere and the majority wins?
>> Perhaps it would be better to make this behavior configurable in the
>> frontend?
> +1
>
> David
>

There is a bit of history here why things like this are set by the theme
and not by a setting.


Many of the early theme creators where also developers and they was
annoyed that they could spend many hours creating a theme to have a look
and feel how they wanted it to only for users and other developers
adding settings to change that behavior.  That's why many settings like
font scaling and the number of rows in the EPG where removed to keep the
themers happy.  There was also some fairly vocal developers that were
adamant that there was to many settings already so settings should be
removed not more added. Most of those developers/themers have moved on so?


Paul H.

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