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intermittent reception
Hi List,

For a while now, I've noticed that I'm not receiving all messages sent to the list. It's visible from the fact that I can see replies to messages that did not reach my mailbox.

For example, see this recent thread :

https://lists.apache.org/list?modperl@perl.apache.org:2022-4

Henrik S's initial request never made it to my inbox, but I did receive Jacques Deguest's and John Dunlap's responses.

Even then, Jacques made two replies to Henrik, and I only received the first one.

Any idea what the cause might be?


Bien ? vous, Vincent Veyron
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Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
Bounced by your ISP? Just guessing

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 01:02 Vincent Veyron <vv.lists@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> For a while now, I've noticed that I'm not receiving all messages sent to
> the list. It's visible from the fact that I can see replies to messages
> that did not reach my mailbox.
>
> For example, see this recent thread :
>
> https://lists.apache.org/list?modperl@perl.apache.org:2022-4
>
> Henrik S's initial request never made it to my inbox, but I did receive
> Jacques Deguest's and John Dunlap's responses.
>
> Even then, Jacques made two replies to Henrik, and I only received the
> first one.
>
> Any idea what the cause might be?
>
>
> Bien à vous, Vincent Veyron
> --
>
> https://marica.fr/
> Logiciel de suivi des contentieux juridiques, des sinistres d'assurance et
> des contrats
>
>
>
Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
Hi,

Some of those emails for me went to MS 365?s quarantine (so different from my junk folder)

Terveisin/Regards

Scott Alexander
scott.alexander@humak.fi<mailto:scott.alexander@humak.fi>


From: Vincent Veyron <vv.lists@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Thursday, 21. April 2022 at 20.02
To: modperl@perl.apache.org <modperl@perl.apache.org>
Subject: intermittent reception
Hi List,

For a while now, I've noticed that I'm not receiving all messages sent to the list. It's visible from the fact that I can see replies to messages that did not reach my mailbox.

For example, see this recent thread :

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Flist%3Fmodperl%40perl.apache.org%3A2022-4&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=uBcVQ4LrD%2Ff10oMIfq%2FbD923aYtMM9GBwZcILszNXNY%3D&amp;reserved=0

Henrik S's initial request never made it to my inbox, but I did receive Jacques Deguest's and John Dunlap's responses.

Even then, Jacques made two replies to Henrik, and I only received the first one.

Any idea what the cause might be?


Bien ? vous, Vincent Veyron
--

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarica.fr%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=DjQNBI7yT%2B7u6vu8rgm9ImoMGPrY%2BnvIUkKNdLuDmpg%3D&amp;reserved=0
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Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 05:40:21 +0800
Wes Peng <wes@gigsdrive.com> wrote:

> Bounced by your ISP? Just guessing
>

Good guess : I went to their web interface, and found the messages in the junk folder

Thanks for the hint

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Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
Same here, O365 has started really messing with my inbox to the point where my junkfolder is now almost my ’second inbox’.

Worse, O365 used to have a setting to NOT send recognized spam to the junk folder, but instead leave it in the Inbox, and it is now removed, and even when set (you can do it with Powershell) , it’s ignored.

All our incoming mail is filtered through a 3rd party gateway so almost everything that’s flagged by O365 is a false positive :-(

On Apr 21, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Scott Alexander <Scott.Alexander@humak.fi<mailto:Scott.Alexander@humak.fi>> wrote:

Hi,

Some of those emails for me went to MS 365’s quarantine (so different from my junk folder)

Terveisin/Regards

Scott Alexander
scott.alexander@humak.fi<mailto:scott.alexander@humak.fi>


From: Vincent Veyron <vv.lists@wanadoo.fr<mailto:vv.lists@wanadoo.fr>>
Date: Thursday, 21. April 2022 at 20.02
To: modperl@perl.apache.org<mailto:modperl@perl.apache.org> <modperl@perl.apache.org<mailto:modperl@perl.apache.org>>
Subject: intermittent reception
Hi List,

For a while now, I've noticed that I'm not receiving all messages sent to the list. It's visible from the fact that I can see replies to messages that did not reach my mailbox.

For example, see this recent thread :

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Flist%3Fmodperl%40perl.apache.org%3A2022-4&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=uBcVQ4LrD%2Ff10oMIfq%2FbD923aYtMM9GBwZcILszNXNY%3D&amp;reserved=0

Henrik S's initial request never made it to my inbox, but I did receive Jacques Deguest's and John Dunlap's responses.

Even then, Jacques made two replies to Henrik, and I only received the first one.

Any idea what the cause might be?


Bien à vous, Vincent Veyron
--

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarica.fr%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=DjQNBI7yT%2B7u6vu8rgm9ImoMGPrY%2BnvIUkKNdLuDmpg%3D&amp;reserved=0
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Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
Aren't blacklisted communications wonderful?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:50 PM Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
wrote:

> Same here, O365 has started really messing with my inbox to the point
> where my junkfolder is now almost my ’second inbox’.
>
> Worse, O365 used to have a setting to NOT send recognized spam to the junk
> folder, but instead leave it in the Inbox, and it is now removed, and even
> when set (you can do it with Powershell) , it’s ignored.
>
> All our incoming mail is filtered through a 3rd party gateway so almost
> everything that’s flagged by O365 is a false positive :-(
>
> On Apr 21, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Scott Alexander <Scott.Alexander@humak.fi>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Some of those emails for me went to MS 365’s quarantine (so different from
> my junk folder)
>
>
>
> Terveisin/Regards
>
>
>
> *Scott Alexander*
>
> scott.alexander@humak.fi
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Vincent Veyron <vv.lists@wanadoo.fr>
> *Date: *Thursday, 21. April 2022 at 20.02
> *To: *modperl@perl.apache.org <modperl@perl.apache.org>
> *Subject: *intermittent reception
>
> Hi List,
>
> For a while now, I've noticed that I'm not receiving all messages sent to
> the list. It's visible from the fact that I can see replies to messages
> that did not reach my mailbox.
>
> For example, see this recent thread :
>
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Flist%3Fmodperl%40perl.apache.org%3A2022-4&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=uBcVQ4LrD%2Ff10oMIfq%2FbD923aYtMM9GBwZcILszNXNY%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
> Henrik S's initial request never made it to my inbox, but I did receive
> Jacques Deguest's and John Dunlap's responses.
>
> Even then, Jacques made two replies to Henrik, and I only received the
> first one.
>
> Any idea what the cause might be?
>
>
> Bien à vous, Vincent Veyron
> --
>
>
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarica.fr%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=DjQNBI7yT%2B7u6vu8rgm9ImoMGPrY%2BnvIUkKNdLuDmpg%3D&amp;reserved=0
> Logiciel de suivi des contentieux juridiques, des sinistres d'assurance et
> des contrats
>
>
> --
> Bruce Johnson
> University of Arizona
> College of Pharmacy
> Information Technology Group
>
> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs
>
>
>

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Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
Yes, I just checked mine again to catch the rest of this thread, and in the last four days found 4 notifications from our own helpdesk ticketing modsystem, and three notifications from our own mailman server. Our domain, btw, is explicitly set to be excluded from junk mail processing on our tenant, meaning Microsoft has apparently changed the rules again without telling us.

On Apr 24, 2022, at 11:56 AM, John Dunlap <John@lariat.co<mailto:John@lariat.co>> wrote:

Aren't blacklisted communications wonderful?

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:50 PM Bruce Johnson <johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu<mailto:johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu>> wrote:
Same here, O365 has started really messing with my inbox to the point where my junkfolder is now almost my ’second inbox’.

Worse, O365 used to have a setting to NOT send recognized spam to the junk folder, but instead leave it in the Inbox, and it is now removed, and even when set (you can do it with Powershell) , it’s ignored.

All our incoming mail is filtered through a 3rd party gateway so almost everything that’s flagged by O365 is a false positive :-(

On Apr 21, 2022, at 10:58 PM, Scott Alexander <Scott.Alexander@humak.fi<mailto:Scott.Alexander@humak.fi>> wrote:

Hi,

Some of those emails for me went to MS 365’s quarantine (so different from my junk folder)

Terveisin/Regards

Scott Alexander
scott.alexander@humak.fi<mailto:scott.alexander@humak.fi>


From: Vincent Veyron <vv.lists@wanadoo.fr<mailto:vv.lists@wanadoo.fr>>
Date: Thursday, 21. April 2022 at 20.02
To: modperl@perl.apache.org<mailto:modperl@perl.apache.org> <modperl@perl.apache.org<mailto:modperl@perl.apache.org>>
Subject: intermittent reception
Hi List,

For a while now, I've noticed that I'm not receiving all messages sent to the list. It's visible from the fact that I can see replies to messages that did not reach my mailbox.

For example, see this recent thread :

https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.apache.org%2Flist%3Fmodperl%40perl.apache.org%3A2022-4&amp;data=05%7C01%7C%7C6378777ea6234eb75f1d08da23b8bdc6%7Ca30a558eb6084b2c8f39a7fa426fa49d%7C0%7C1%7C637861573629129953%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=uBcVQ4LrD%2Ff10oMIfq%2FbD923aYtMM9GBwZcILszNXNY%3D&amp;reserved=0

Henrik S's initial request never made it to my inbox, but I did receive Jacques Deguest's and John Dunlap's responses.

Even then, Jacques made two replies to Henrik, and I only received the first one.

Any idea what the cause might be?


Bien à vous, Vincent Veyron
--

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--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs




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CTO | Lariat

Direct:
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Re: intermittent reception [ In reply to ]
spamassassin is developed by perl. aren't they using spamassassin?


Bruce Johnson wrote:
> Yes, I just checked mine again to catch the rest of this thread, and in
> the last four days found 4 notifications from our own helpdesk ticketing
> modsystem, and three notifications from our own mailman server.  Our
> domain, btw, is explicitly set to be excluded from junk mail processing
> on our tenant, meaning Microsoft has apparently changed the rules again
> without telling us.