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compile issues
Hello

I think this was partly covered a few months back but embperl is not
compiling. Evidently Perl removed a variable tht the vode was depending
on.

cc -c -I/usr/local/apache2/include -I/usr/local/apache2/regex
-I/usr/local/apache2/os/unix -I/usr/include/apr-1
-I/home/ruben/src/Embperl-2.5.0_4/xs -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fPIC
-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE -DMOD_PERL
-DMP_COMPAT_1X -fgnu89-inline -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2
-DVERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -fPIC
"-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE" -DAPACHE -DAPACHE2
-DEP2 -o Embperl.o Embperl.c
In file included from ep.h:174:0,
from Embperl.xs:16:
./Old.xs: In function ‘XS_Embperl__Req_log_svs’:
epnames.h:329:21: error: ‘PL_sv_objcount’ undeclared (first use in this
function); did you mean ‘PL_sv_count’?
#define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
^
epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
#define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
epnames.h:329:21: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once
for each function it appears in
#define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
^
epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
#define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
make: *** [Makefile:577: Embperl.o] Error 1


There seem to be fixes floating around. The archive only goes to 2.05_4
and I think there are several newer versions.

Does anyone have one?

Ruben

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Re: compile issues with embperl [ In reply to ]
Yeah even the svn fails to work.



On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:49AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> Hello
>
> I think this was partly covered a few months back but embperl is not
> compiling. Evidently Perl removed a variable tht the vode was depending
> on.
>
> cc -c -I/usr/local/apache2/include -I/usr/local/apache2/regex
> -I/usr/local/apache2/os/unix -I/usr/include/apr-1
> -I/home/ruben/src/Embperl-2.5.0_4/xs -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
> -fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fPIC
> -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE -DMOD_PERL
> -DMP_COMPAT_1X -fgnu89-inline -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2
> -DVERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -fPIC
> "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE" -DAPACHE -DAPACHE2
> -DEP2 -o Embperl.o Embperl.c
> In file included from ep.h:174:0,
> from Embperl.xs:16:
> ./Old.xs: In function ‘XS_Embperl__Req_log_svs’:
> epnames.h:329:21: error: ‘PL_sv_objcount’ undeclared (first use in this
> function); did you mean ‘PL_sv_count’?
> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> ^
> epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> epnames.h:329:21: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> for each function it appears in
> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> ^
> epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> make: *** [Makefile:577: Embperl.o] Error 1
>
>
> There seem to be fixes floating around. The archive only goes to 2.05_4
> and I think there are several newer versions.
>
> Does anyone have one?
>
> Ruben
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>

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proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
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Re: compile issues with embperl [ In reply to ]
Use /usr/local/apache2 as Apache source(y/n) [y]
Will use /usr/local/apache2 for Apache Headers
Apache Version Server version: Apache/2.4.41 (Unix)
Load dynamic module mod_dir.c
(/usr/local/apache2/modules/mod_dir.so)
+ Load dynamic module mod_env.c
(/usr/local/apache2/modules/mod_env.so)
Library for prefork.c not found, please enter path to
mod_mpm_prefork.so []



This has got me completely confused because apache says it doesn't
do this on linux



checking:~/src/httpd-2.4.41> ./configure --enable-threads --with-mpm

.....

whether to enable mod_lbmethod_heartbeat... checking
dependencies
checking whether to enable mod_lbmethod_heartbeat... shared
checking which MPM to use by default... yes
configure: error: MPM yes is not supported on this platform.



On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 05:33:02AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Yeah even the svn fails to work.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 04:58:49AM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I think this was partly covered a few months back but embperl is not
> > compiling. Evidently Perl removed a variable tht the vode was depending
> > on.
> >
> > cc -c -I/usr/local/apache2/include -I/usr/local/apache2/regex
> > -I/usr/local/apache2/os/unix -I/usr/include/apr-1
> > -I/home/ruben/src/Embperl-2.5.0_4/xs -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
> > -fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> > -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fPIC
> > -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE -DMOD_PERL
> > -DMP_COMPAT_1X -fgnu89-inline -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2
> > -DVERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -fPIC
> > "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE" -DAPACHE -DAPACHE2
> > -DEP2 -o Embperl.o Embperl.c
> > In file included from ep.h:174:0,
> > from Embperl.xs:16:
> > ./Old.xs: In function ‘XS_Embperl__Req_log_svs’:
> > epnames.h:329:21: error: ‘PL_sv_objcount’ undeclared (first use in this
> > function); did you mean ‘PL_sv_count’?
> > #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > ^
> > epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> > #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > epnames.h:329:21: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> > for each function it appears in
> > #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > ^
> > epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> > #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > make: *** [Makefile:577: Embperl.o] Error 1
> >
> >
> > There seem to be fixes floating around. The archive only goes to 2.05_4
> > and I think there are several newer versions.
> >
> > Does anyone have one?
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> > --
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >
> > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >
> > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>
>
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Re: compile issues [ In reply to ]
I keep finding an error in Util.pm

/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/Embperl/Util.pm line
108.

106
107 my $sess ;
108 $sess = $Embperl::req -> app -> udat ;
109 *{"$package\:\:udat"} = $sess if ($sess) ;
110 $sess = $Embperl::req -> app -> mdat ;


On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 08:46:34PM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:

l Whel you say that seems to have worked, you mean you did the steps and
> it worked for you? If so, that's great! :-)
>
> I'm sorry that's all I know, and it was all really from other people's
> advice. I agree it would be nice if the "official" tarball from Gerald
> could be updated, but he seems a bit unresponsive these days. Not sure
> what he's up to, but it would be great if the current Embperl could be
> brought up to date, yes. Meanwhile we have cludges like the one below. :P
>
> Neil
>
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:
> >> Copy the steps since that link is weird:
> >>
> >> Aha! Apparently this is what you need to do:
> >>
> >> 1. https://salsa.debian.org/perl-team/modules/packages/libembperl-perl
> >> 2. Download the .tar.gz source file (download button on the right)
> >> 3. tar xvfz libembperl-perl-master.tar.gz
> >> 4. cd libembperl-perl-master
> >> 5. apt-get install quilt
> >> 6. export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches
> >> 7. quilt push -a
> >> 8. perl Makefile.PL
> >> 9. make
> >> 10. make install
> >>
> >> The 'quilt' package is apparently what's used to apply those patches.
> >>
> >
> > wow - that seems to have worked.
> >
> > It would be GREAT to have that source code as a simple tarball.
> >
> > I can host it, if needed, on my www.nylxs.com server. I already have
> > lots of mirrors.
> >
> >
> >> It seemed to work, at least it got through the compile stage ok and I
> >> was able to do 'make install'.
> >>
> >> Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 09:59:07AM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:
> >>>> Sorry if this is stupid obvious, but I had issues with Embperl when I
> >>>> finally upgraded to Debian Stretch. I was trying to use the "official"
> >>>> version. Eventually I got it working using the Debian version, which
> >>>> evidently had some patches. Maybe take a look at the current Debian
> >>>> source version? Again, sorry if this is complete BS, just an idea.
> >>>>
> >>> I appreciate that! But I can not find the source code, only debian
> >>> packages. can you point out to me the existing debian code base? I
> >>> don't run debian. I run opensuse and Artix.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> Ruben
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Neil
> >>>>
> >>>> Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>>>> Hello
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think this was partly covered a few months back but embperl is not
> >>>>> compiling. Evidently Perl removed a variable tht the vode was depending
> >>>>> on.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cc -c -I/usr/local/apache2/include -I/usr/local/apache2/regex
> >>>>> -I/usr/local/apache2/os/unix -I/usr/include/apr-1
> >>>>> -I/home/ruben/src/Embperl-2.5.0_4/xs -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
> >>>>> -fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> >>>>> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fPIC
> >>>>> -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE -DMOD_PERL
> >>>>> -DMP_COMPAT_1X -fgnu89-inline -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2
> >>>>> -DVERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -fPIC
> >>>>> "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE" -DAPACHE -DAPACHE2
> >>>>> -DEP2 -o Embperl.o Embperl.c
> >>>>> In file included from ep.h:174:0,
> >>>>> from Embperl.xs:16:
> >>>>> ./Old.xs: In function ‘XS_Embperl__Req_log_svs’:
> >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: error: ‘PL_sv_objcount’ undeclared (first use in this
> >>>>> function); did you mean ‘PL_sv_count’?
> >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> >>>>> ^
> >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> >>>>> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> >>>>> for each function it appears in
> >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> >>>>> ^
> >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> >>>>> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>>>> make: *** [Makefile:577: Embperl.o] Error 1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There seem to be fixes floating around. The archive only goes to 2.05_4
> >>>>> and I think there are several newer versions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Does anyone have one?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ruben
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >

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DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
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Re: compile issues [ In reply to ]
sorry
Can't call method "app" on an undefined value at
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/Embperl/Util.pm line
108.

obviously udat is not being defined

I can fix it but checking for udat?

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:19:22PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> I keep finding an error in Util.pm
>
> /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/Embperl/Util.pm line
> 108.
>
> 106
> 107 my $sess ;
> 108 $sess = $Embperl::req -> app -> udat ;
> 109 *{"$package\:\:udat"} = $sess if ($sess) ;
> 110 $sess = $Embperl::req -> app -> mdat ;
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 08:46:34PM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:
>
> l Whel you say that seems to have worked, you mean you did the steps and
> > it worked for you? If so, that's great! :-)
> >
> > I'm sorry that's all I know, and it was all really from other people's
> > advice. I agree it would be nice if the "official" tarball from Gerald
> > could be updated, but he seems a bit unresponsive these days. Not sure
> > what he's up to, but it would be great if the current Embperl could be
> > brought up to date, yes. Meanwhile we have cludges like the one below. :P
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:
> > >> Copy the steps since that link is weird:
> > >>
> > >> Aha! Apparently this is what you need to do:
> > >>
> > >> 1. https://salsa.debian.org/perl-team/modules/packages/libembperl-perl
> > >> 2. Download the .tar.gz source file (download button on the right)
> > >> 3. tar xvfz libembperl-perl-master.tar.gz
> > >> 4. cd libembperl-perl-master
> > >> 5. apt-get install quilt
> > >> 6. export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches
> > >> 7. quilt push -a
> > >> 8. perl Makefile.PL
> > >> 9. make
> > >> 10. make install
> > >>
> > >> The 'quilt' package is apparently what's used to apply those patches.
> > >>
> > >
> > > wow - that seems to have worked.
> > >
> > > It would be GREAT to have that source code as a simple tarball.
> > >
> > > I can host it, if needed, on my www.nylxs.com server. I already have
> > > lots of mirrors.
> > >
> > >
> > >> It seemed to work, at least it got through the compile stage ok and I
> > >> was able to do 'make install'.
> > >>
> > >> Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >>> On Fri, Nov 01, 2019 at 09:59:07AM -0700, Neil Gunton wrote:
> > >>>> Sorry if this is stupid obvious, but I had issues with Embperl when I
> > >>>> finally upgraded to Debian Stretch. I was trying to use the "official"
> > >>>> version. Eventually I got it working using the Debian version, which
> > >>>> evidently had some patches. Maybe take a look at the current Debian
> > >>>> source version? Again, sorry if this is complete BS, just an idea.
> > >>>>
> > >>> I appreciate that! But I can not find the source code, only debian
> > >>> packages. can you point out to me the existing debian code base? I
> > >>> don't run debian. I run opensuse and Artix.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks!
> > >>>
> > >>> Ruben
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Neil
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ruben Safir wrote:
> > >>>>> Hello
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think this was partly covered a few months back but embperl is not
> > >>>>> compiling. Evidently Perl removed a variable tht the vode was depending
> > >>>>> on.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> cc -c -I/usr/local/apache2/include -I/usr/local/apache2/regex
> > >>>>> -I/usr/local/apache2/os/unix -I/usr/include/apr-1
> > >>>>> -I/home/ruben/src/Embperl-2.5.0_4/xs -fwrapv -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
> > >>>>> -fstack-protector-strong -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
> > >>>>> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fPIC
> > >>>>> -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE -DMOD_PERL
> > >>>>> -DMP_COMPAT_1X -fgnu89-inline -DLINUX -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -O2
> > >>>>> -DVERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -DXS_VERSION=\"2.5.0_4\" -fPIC
> > >>>>> "-I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.30.0/x86_64-linux/CORE" -DAPACHE -DAPACHE2
> > >>>>> -DEP2 -o Embperl.o Embperl.c
> > >>>>> In file included from ep.h:174:0,
> > >>>>> from Embperl.xs:16:
> > >>>>> ./Old.xs: In function ‘XS_Embperl__Req_log_svs’:
> > >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: error: ‘PL_sv_objcount’ undeclared (first use in this
> > >>>>> function); did you mean ‘PL_sv_count’?
> > >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > >>>>> ^
> > >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> > >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > >>>>> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> > >>>>> for each function it appears in
> > >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > >>>>> ^
> > >>>>> epnames.h:329:21: note: in definition of macro ‘sv_objcount’
> > >>>>> #define sv_objcount PL_sv_objcount
> > >>>>> ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >>>>> make: *** [Makefile:577: Embperl.o] Error 1
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There seem to be fixes floating around. The archive only goes to 2.05_4
> > >>>>> and I think there are several newer versions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Does anyone have one?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ruben
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>
>
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http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
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