Andreas J Koenig wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:09:07 -0500, Stas Bekman <stas@stason.org> said:
>
>
> >> Will it not also affect us who build mod_perl applications and want
> >> an easy-to-use installer to just work for people who download our
> >> software? Frankly, I don't think that it should be fine for just the
> >> dedicated mod_perl developer. This is one place where PHP is kicking
> >> the crap out of us.
>
> > us == perl, once PAUSE is fixed, and CPAN clients are adjusted, it will
> > just work.
>
> Stas, please stop propagating this fairy tale. The danger is, that
> people will believe you. This I call unfair propaganda as it tries to
> put the blame on somebody else's shoulders. That's not a very
> promising strategy to solve problems.
>
> Listen carefully: it is very unlikely that PAUSE and CPAN get
> ''''fixed'''' as you call it. There is no solution at hand and 4
> people who you know well and who in turn know the problem domain very
> well have agreed and have told you so.
>
> So please stop telling untruth.
Andreas, what exactly do you call untruth? My attempt to make PAUSE/CPAN
better and accomodate the growing community needs? Why is that untruth?
It's not a danger that people will believe me, it's a hope. If enough
people believe in that may be things will change. Things shouldn't be cast
in stone and they should evolve as the world evolve.
I truly don't understand why you refuse to believe that CPAN/PAUSE needs
to grow.
Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
It's not putting blame on other shoulders. It's an attempt to actually
solve things. You know very well, that I didn't just say it's PAUSE/CPAN
problem. I've spent hours trying to find a solution. I've even found a
person who have agreed to implement the required changes. And all you can
say: "put the blame on other shoulders"? thanks so much for giving me so
much credit.
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>>>>>>On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 00:09:07 -0500, Stas Bekman <stas@stason.org> said:
>
>
> >> Will it not also affect us who build mod_perl applications and want
> >> an easy-to-use installer to just work for people who download our
> >> software? Frankly, I don't think that it should be fine for just the
> >> dedicated mod_perl developer. This is one place where PHP is kicking
> >> the crap out of us.
>
> > us == perl, once PAUSE is fixed, and CPAN clients are adjusted, it will
> > just work.
>
> Stas, please stop propagating this fairy tale. The danger is, that
> people will believe you. This I call unfair propaganda as it tries to
> put the blame on somebody else's shoulders. That's not a very
> promising strategy to solve problems.
>
> Listen carefully: it is very unlikely that PAUSE and CPAN get
> ''''fixed'''' as you call it. There is no solution at hand and 4
> people who you know well and who in turn know the problem domain very
> well have agreed and have told you so.
>
> So please stop telling untruth.
Andreas, what exactly do you call untruth? My attempt to make PAUSE/CPAN
better and accomodate the growing community needs? Why is that untruth?
It's not a danger that people will believe me, it's a hope. If enough
people believe in that may be things will change. Things shouldn't be cast
in stone and they should evolve as the world evolve.
I truly don't understand why you refuse to believe that CPAN/PAUSE needs
to grow.
Re: About putting the blame on other shoulders
It's not putting blame on other shoulders. It's an attempt to actually
solve things. You know very well, that I didn't just say it's PAUSE/CPAN
problem. I've spent hours trying to find a solution. I've even found a
person who have agreed to implement the required changes. And all you can
say: "put the blame on other shoulders"? thanks so much for giving me so
much credit.
--
__________________________________________________________________
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http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide ---> http://perl.apache.org
mailto:stas@stason.org http://use.perl.org http://apacheweek.com
http://modperlbook.org http://apache.org http://ticketmaster.com
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