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[VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.

The artifacts can be downloaded from:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075

You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:

python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075

The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.

[ ] +1 approve
[ ] +0 no opinion
[ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)

Here is my +1

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RE: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Hi,

I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]

See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console

So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.

I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?

Uwe

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eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>
> Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>
> The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>
> You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>
> python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>
> The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
> Here is my +1
>
> --
> Adrien
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
I ran the smoketester and it passed:

SUCCESS! [0:18:08.361431]

Thanks to all the hard work on smoke testing, release scripts, and build!

Like Uwe, I plan to do some manual inspection and look for trouble
before voting. But things look to be in a good place.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 3:25 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>
> The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>
> You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>
> python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>
> The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
> Here is my +1
>
> --
> Adrien
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
I also ran the smoketester with --test-java17
/usr/lib/jvm/java-17-openjdk, which ran all the checks on both java 11
and java 17.

SUCCESS! [0:34:34.251839]

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 7:25 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I ran the smoketester and it passed:
>
> SUCCESS! [0:18:08.361431]
>
> Thanks to all the hard work on smoke testing, release scripts, and build!
>
> Like Uwe, I plan to do some manual inspection and look for trouble
> before voting. But things look to be in a good place.
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 3:25 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >
> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >
> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >
> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >
> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >
> > Here is my +1
> >
> > --
> > Adrien
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Oh did not know. Will extend my Jenkins job.

Uwe

Am 20. November 2021 13:05:43 UTC schrieb Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com>:
>I also ran the smoketester with --test-java17
>/usr/lib/jvm/java-17-openjdk, which ran all the checks on both java 11
>and java 17.
>
>SUCCESS! [0:34:34.251839]
>
>On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 7:25 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I ran the smoketester and it passed:
>>
>> SUCCESS! [0:18:08.361431]
>>
>> Thanks to all the hard work on smoke testing, release scripts, and build!
>>
>> Like Uwe, I plan to do some manual inspection and look for trouble
>> before voting. But things look to be in a good place.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 3:25 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>> >
>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> >
>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>> >
>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> >
>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>> >
>> > [ ] +1 approve
>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>> >
>> > Here is my +1
>> >
>> > --
>> > Adrien
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We
typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch
release?

Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>
> See here for log:
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>
> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with
> my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>
> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the
> delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need
> them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x
> ones, right?
>
> Uwe
>
> -----
> Uwe Schindler
> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> https://www.thetaphi.de
> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> >
> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >
> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >
> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >
> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >
> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >
> > Here is my +1
> >
> > --
> > Adrien
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>
>
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>
Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?

Uwe

Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We
>typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch
>release?
>
>Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>>
>> See here for log:
>> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>>
>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with
>> my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>>
>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the
>> delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need
>> them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x
>> ones, right?
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>> -----
>> Uwe Schindler
>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>> https://www.thetaphi.de
>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>> >
>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>> >
>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> >
>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>> >
>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> >
>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>> >
>> > [ ] +1 approve
>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>> >
>> > Here is my +1
>> >
>> > --
>> > Adrien
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>>
>>
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>>
>>

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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the
past. I'll start a separate thread.

Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :

> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead.
> Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
>
> Uwe
>
> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com
> >:
>>
>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We
>> typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch
>> release?
>>
>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it
>>> succeeded:
>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>>>
>>> See here for log:
>>> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>>>
>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with
>>> my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>>>
>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for
>>> the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still
>>> need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are
>>> 8.11.x ones, right?
>>>
>>> Uwe
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Uwe Schindler
>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>>> >
>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>>> >
>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>>> >
>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>>> >
>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>>> >
>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>>> >
>>> > [ ] +1 approve
>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>>> >
>>> > Here is my +1
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Adrien
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
> Uwe Schindler
> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
> https://www.thetaphi.de
>
RE: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
And now also with JDK-11 and JDK-17 combined, thanks to Robert Muir:

https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/5/console

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https://www.thetaphi.de
eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de>
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 12:51 PM
> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>
> Hi,
>
> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>
> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-
> Tester/4/console
>
> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1,
> because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>
> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay).
> At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can
> enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
>
> Uwe
>
> -----
> Uwe Schindler
> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> https://www.thetaphi.de
> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> >
> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >
> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >
> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >
> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >
> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >
> > [ ] +1 approve
> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >
> > Here is my +1
> >
> > --
> > Adrien
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
SUCCESS! [0:17:58.084253]

+1 from me. There are a few things I think could be done better (the
demo application... is not really what it should or could be) but
these
have been with us for so long that it's definitely not a showstopper.

D.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:25 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>
> The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>
> You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>
> python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>
> The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>
> [ ] +1 approve
> [ ] +0 no opinion
> [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>
> Here is my +1
>
> --
> Adrien
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
-1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.

I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.

The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
>
> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>>
>> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
>>>
>>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
>>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>>>>
>>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>>>>
>>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>>>>
>>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
>>>>
>>>> Uwe
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Uwe Schindler
>>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
>>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>>>>
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
>>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
>>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>>>> >
>>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>>>> >
>>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>>>> >
>>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>>>> >
>>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>>>> >
>>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>>>> >
>>>> > [ ] +1 approve
>>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>>>> >
>>>> > Here is my +1
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Adrien
>>>> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
rather than simply ignored.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168

With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
take for branch_9_9!

When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
make it work...crickets.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
>
> I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
>
> The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
> this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
> compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
> >
> > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> >>
> >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> >>
> >> Uwe
> >>
> >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
> >>>
> >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
> >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> >>>>
> >>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> >>>>
> >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
> >>>>
> >>>> Uwe
> >>>>
> >>>> -----
> >>>> Uwe Schindler
> >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> >>>>
> >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >>>> >
> >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
> >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Here is my +1
> >>>> >
> >>>> > --
> >>>> > Adrien
> >>>> >
> >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> Uwe Schindler
> >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
> >> https://www.thetaphi.de

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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the
blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in
Lucene 9 :(

Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on
increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a
natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production
environments.

Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in
the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be
implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?



On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:

> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
> rather than simply ignored.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
>
> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
> take for branch_9_9!
>
> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
> make it work...crickets.
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
> >
> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
> >
> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the
> past. I'll start a separate thread.
> > >
> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit
> :
> > >>
> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is
> dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> > >>
> > >> Uwe
> > >>
> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <
> jpountz@gmail.com>:
> > >>>
> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We
> typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch
> release?
> > >>>
> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a
> écrit :
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it
> succeeded:
> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> > >>>>
> > >>>> See here for log:
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit
> with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs
> first.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry
> for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people
> still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now
> are 8.11.x ones, right?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Uwe
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----
> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> > >>>> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> > >>>> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Here is my +1
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > --
> > >>>> > Adrien
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >> --
> > >> Uwe Schindler
> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
>
Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Thanks Ignacio,

I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the problem.

One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different versions
:) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather than
having them pile up.

Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure, just
as long as it becomes reasonable.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
>
> Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production environments.
>
> Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
>> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
>> rather than simply ignored.
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
>>
>> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
>> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
>> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
>> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
>> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
>> take for branch_9_9!
>>
>> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
>> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
>> make it work...crickets.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
>> >
>> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
>> >
>> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
>> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
>> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
>> > >
>> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>> > >>
>> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
>> > >>
>> > >> Uwe
>> > >>
>> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Hi,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
>> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Uwe
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> -----
>> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
>> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
>> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
>> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
>> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
>> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > Here is my +1
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > --
>> > >>>> > Adrien
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >>>>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Uwe Schindler
>> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
>> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
and yes, I think it is reasonable to be a blocker. If we release 9.0,
promising 2 major versions of back compat, some of these options get
removed from the table.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:23 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ignacio,
>
> I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the problem.
>
> One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
> prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different versions
> :) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
> half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
> that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather than
> having them pile up.
>
> Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
> suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
> nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure, just
> as long as it becomes reasonable.
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
> >
> > Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production environments.
> >
> > Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
> >> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
> >> rather than simply ignored.
> >>
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
> >>
> >> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
> >> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
> >> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
> >> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
> >> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
> >> take for branch_9_9!
> >>
> >> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
> >> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
> >> make it work...crickets.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
> >> >
> >> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
> >> >
> >> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
> >> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
> >> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
> >> > >
> >> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Uwe
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Hi,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
> >> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Uwe
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> -----
> >> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
> >> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> >> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> >> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> >> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> >> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> >> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
> >> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> >> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > Here is my +1
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > --
> >> > >>>> > Adrien
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> >> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Uwe Schindler
> >> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
> >> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Fair enough. I don't think this requires respinning so what I'll do is that
I'll keep the vote thread open until we have a resolution on the issue.

On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:29 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:

> and yes, I think it is reasonable to be a blocker. If we release 9.0,
> promising 2 major versions of back compat, some of these options get
> removed from the table.
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:23 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Ignacio,
> >
> > I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the problem.
> >
> > One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
> > prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different versions
> > :) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
> > half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
> > that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather than
> > having them pile up.
> >
> > Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
> > suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
> > nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure, just
> > as long as it becomes reasonable.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of
> the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for
> blockers in Lucene 9 :(
> > >
> > > Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on
> increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a
> natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production
> environments.
> > >
> > > Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion
> in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be
> implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
> > >> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
> > >> rather than simply ignored.
> > >>
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
> > >>
> > >> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
> > >> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
> > >> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
> > >> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
> > >> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
> > >> take for branch_9_9!
> > >>
> > >> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
> > >> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
> > >> make it work...crickets.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
> > >> >
> > >> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real
> problem.
> > >> >
> > >> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
> > >> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
> > >> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial
> in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a
> écrit :
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x
> is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Uwe
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <
> jpountz@gmail.com>:
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be
> disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a
> new patch release?
> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de>
> a écrit :
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Hi,
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and
> it succeeded:
> > >> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> See here for log:
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait
> a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and
> javadocs first.
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins
> (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr
> people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we
> need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> Uwe
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> -----
> > >> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
> > >> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> > >> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> > >> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> > >> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> > >> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> > >> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> > >> > >>>> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> > >> > >>>> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > >> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > Here is my +1
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> > --
> > >> > >>>> > Adrien
> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >>>> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >>>>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> Uwe Schindler
> > >> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
> > >> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
SUCCESS! [0:25:27.340580]

I noticed the Luke start script for *nix does not work and pushed a
fix [1] on main and branch_9x. The launch script for Windows works
well.
I am fine with the release candidate - it is a minor shell script bug
and I think users can easily make a patch - but wanted to give notice
of that, just in case.

[1] https://github.com/apache/lucene/commit/4193bcbc02313c82afcf8cf9e2d14e47466cb1c3

Tomoko

2021?11?22?(?) 6:18 Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>
> Fair enough. I don't think this requires respinning so what I'll do is that I'll keep the vote thread open until we have a resolution on the issue.
>
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:29 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> and yes, I think it is reasonable to be a blocker. If we release 9.0,
>> promising 2 major versions of back compat, some of these options get
>> removed from the table.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:23 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Ignacio,
>> >
>> > I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the problem.
>> >
>> > One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
>> > prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different versions
>> > :) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
>> > half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
>> > that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather than
>> > having them pile up.
>> >
>> > Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
>> > suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
>> > nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure, just
>> > as long as it becomes reasonable.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
>> > >
>> > > Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production environments.
>> > >
>> > > Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
>> > >> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
>> > >> rather than simply ignored.
>> > >>
>> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
>> > >>
>> > >> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
>> > >> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
>> > >> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
>> > >> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
>> > >> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
>> > >> take for branch_9_9!
>> > >>
>> > >> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
>> > >> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
>> > >> make it work...crickets.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
>> > >> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
>> > >> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Uwe
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
>> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> Hi,
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
>> > >> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> Uwe
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> -----
>> > >> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
>> > >> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>> > >> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
>> > >> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
>> > >> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
>> > >> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>> > >> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>> > >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>> > >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
>> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > >> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > Here is my +1
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > --
>> > >> > >>>> > Adrien
>> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > >>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> --
>> > >> > >> Uwe Schindler
>> > >> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
>> > >> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
>> > >>
>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >>
>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Adrien

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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
This is my copy/paste mistake - I work with Unixish shells all the
time but rarely with a user interface and didn't have a chance to
check. Let's see if anything else pops up but this is definitely worth
a respin in my opinion as it's one of the fundamental reasons for the
binary release to exist...

Dawid

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 12:05 PM Tomoko Uchida
<tomoko.uchida.1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> SUCCESS! [0:25:27.340580]
>
> I noticed the Luke start script for *nix does not work and pushed a
> fix [1] on main and branch_9x. The launch script for Windows works
> well.
> I am fine with the release candidate - it is a minor shell script bug
> and I think users can easily make a patch - but wanted to give notice
> of that, just in case.
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/lucene/commit/4193bcbc02313c82afcf8cf9e2d14e47466cb1c3
>
> Tomoko
>
> 2021?11?22?(?) 6:18 Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Fair enough. I don't think this requires respinning so what I'll do is that I'll keep the vote thread open until we have a resolution on the issue.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:29 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> and yes, I think it is reasonable to be a blocker. If we release 9.0,
> >> promising 2 major versions of back compat, some of these options get
> >> removed from the table.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:23 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks Ignacio,
> >> >
> >> > I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the problem.
> >> >
> >> > One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
> >> > prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different versions
> >> > :) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
> >> > half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
> >> > that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather than
> >> > having them pile up.
> >> >
> >> > Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
> >> > suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
> >> > nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure, just
> >> > as long as it becomes reasonable.
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
> >> > >
> >> > > Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production environments.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
> >> > >> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
> >> > >> rather than simply ignored.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
> >> > >>
> >> > >> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
> >> > >> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
> >> > >> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
> >> > >> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
> >> > >> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
> >> > >> take for branch_9_9!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
> >> > >> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
> >> > >> make it work...crickets.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
> >> > >> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
> >> > >> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Uwe
> >> > >> > >>
> >> > >> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
> >> > >> > >>>
> >> > >> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> Hi,
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
> >> > >> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> Uwe
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> -----
> >> > >> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
> >> > >> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> >> > >> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> >> > >> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> >> > >> > >>>>
> >> > >> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> >> > >> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> >> > >> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> >> > >> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> >> > >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> >> > >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> >> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
> >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > Here is my +1
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > --
> >> > >> > >>>> > Adrien
> >> > >> > >>>> >
> >> > >> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Agreed, I'll respin.
Tomoko, can you backport your fix to branch_9_0?

Le lun. 22 nov. 2021 à 12:42, Dawid Weiss <dawid.weiss@gmail.com> a écrit :

> This is my copy/paste mistake - I work with Unixish shells all the
> time but rarely with a user interface and didn't have a chance to
> check. Let's see if anything else pops up but this is definitely worth
> a respin in my opinion as it's one of the fundamental reasons for the
> binary release to exist...
>
> Dawid
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 12:05 PM Tomoko Uchida
> <tomoko.uchida.1111@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > SUCCESS! [0:25:27.340580]
> >
> > I noticed the Luke start script for *nix does not work and pushed a
> > fix [1] on main and branch_9x. The launch script for Windows works
> > well.
> > I am fine with the release candidate - it is a minor shell script bug
> > and I think users can easily make a patch - but wanted to give notice
> > of that, just in case.
> >
> > [1]
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/commit/4193bcbc02313c82afcf8cf9e2d14e47466cb1c3
> >
> > Tomoko
> >
> > 2021?11?22?(?) 6:18 Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > Fair enough. I don't think this requires respinning so what I'll do is
> that I'll keep the vote thread open until we have a resolution on the issue.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:29 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> and yes, I think it is reasonable to be a blocker. If we release 9.0,
> > >> promising 2 major versions of back compat, some of these options get
> > >> removed from the table.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:23 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks Ignacio,
> > >> >
> > >> > I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the
> problem.
> > >> >
> > >> > One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
> > >> > prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different
> versions
> > >> > :) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
> > >> > half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
> > >> > that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather
> than
> > >> > having them pile up.
> > >> >
> > >> > Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
> > >> > suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
> > >> > nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure,
> just
> > >> > as long as it becomes reasonable.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the
> version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search
> for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and
> agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is
> that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used
> in production environments.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy
> discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and
> they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my
> blocker
> > >> > >> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release
> candidate,
> > >> > >> rather than simply ignored.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
> > >> > >> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
> > >> > >> discussing insane release strategies that can't be
> guaranteed/tested
> > >> > >> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
> > >> > >> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they
> will
> > >> > >> take for branch_9_9!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand
> more of
> > >> > >> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary
> issues to
> > >> > >> make it work...crickets.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real
> problem.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility
> like
> > >> > >> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the
> back
> > >> > >> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <
> jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was
> controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de>
> a écrit :
> > >> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the
> branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
> > >> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > >> Uwe
> > >> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <
> jpountz@gmail.com>:
> > >> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be
> disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a
> new patch release?
> > >> > >> > >>>
> > >> > >> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <
> uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> Hi,
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins
> and it succeeded:
> > >> > >> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> See here for log:
> https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will
> wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and
> javadocs first.
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman
> Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If
> Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones
> we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> Uwe
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> -----
> > >> > >> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
> > >> > >> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> > >> > >> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
> > >> > >> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
> > >> > >> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
> > >> > >> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> > >> > >> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > >> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
> > >> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
> > >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > Here is my +1
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> > --
> > >> > >> > >>>> > Adrien
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > >> > >>>> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> dev-unsubscribe@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >>>>
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> > >> > >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail:
> dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >> > >> > >>>>
> > >> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> > >> Uwe Schindler
> > >> > >> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
> > >> > >> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
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> > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Adrien
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1 [ In reply to ]
Ok, thank you. I backported it to branch_9_0.

Tomoko

2021?11?22?(?) 21:29 Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>
> Agreed, I'll respin.
> Tomoko, can you backport your fix to branch_9_0?
>
> Le lun. 22 nov. 2021 à 12:42, Dawid Weiss <dawid.weiss@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> This is my copy/paste mistake - I work with Unixish shells all the
>> time but rarely with a user interface and didn't have a chance to
>> check. Let's see if anything else pops up but this is definitely worth
>> a respin in my opinion as it's one of the fundamental reasons for the
>> binary release to exist...
>>
>> Dawid
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 12:05 PM Tomoko Uchida
>> <tomoko.uchida.1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > SUCCESS! [0:25:27.340580]
>> >
>> > I noticed the Luke start script for *nix does not work and pushed a
>> > fix [1] on main and branch_9x. The launch script for Windows works
>> > well.
>> > I am fine with the release candidate - it is a minor shell script bug
>> > and I think users can easily make a patch - but wanted to give notice
>> > of that, just in case.
>> >
>> > [1] https://github.com/apache/lucene/commit/4193bcbc02313c82afcf8cf9e2d14e47466cb1c3
>> >
>> > Tomoko
>> >
>> > 2021?11?22?(?) 6:18 Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>> > >
>> > > Fair enough. I don't think this requires respinning so what I'll do is that I'll keep the vote thread open until we have a resolution on the issue.
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:29 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> and yes, I think it is reasonable to be a blocker. If we release 9.0,
>> > >> promising 2 major versions of back compat, some of these options get
>> > >> removed from the table.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:23 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks Ignacio,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I see several choices, but the status quo of the testing is the problem.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > One choice is to not make any technical changes, but do something to
>> > >> > prevent lucene from having to be compatible with 20 different versions
>> > >> > :) For example, not supporting 2 major versions back would cut it in
>> > >> > half. Another solution would be to release major versions faster so
>> > >> > that we churn thru the versions at a more sustainable rate rather than
>> > >> > having them pile up.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Another option is to technically alter how the testing is done (as
>> > >> > suggested on the issue). It could mean that some of them only run
>> > >> > nightly or otherwise in jenkins. Which exact tests? I'm not sure, just
>> > >> > as long as it becomes reasonable.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ignacio Vera <iverase@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Your issue has not been ignored but the problem is that the version of the blocker has not been added so it doesn't appear in a search for blockers in Lucene 9 :(
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Do we need to discuss this again? I thought we discussed and agreed on increasing our backwards compatibility. My personal opinion is that it is a natural step for mature software that it is increasingly used in production environments.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Regarding your concerns in the subject, there is a healthy discussion in the issue and there are sound proposals to ease the pain and they can be implemented any time, do you think it is still a blocker?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 12:59 PM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Along the same lines of back compat woes, I'd like to see my blocker
>> > >> > >> issue about back compat testing addressed in the release candidate,
>> > >> > >> rather than simply ignored.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-10168
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> With the 9.0 release, we are attempting to *double* our backwards
>> > >> > >> compatibility guarantees (2 major versions), yet here we are
>> > >> > >> discussing insane release strategies that can't be guaranteed/tested
>> > >> > >> to work (8.12-after-9.0-etc), here we are with back compat tests
>> > >> > >> taking a minute and half on branch_9_0! Imagine how long they will
>> > >> > >> take for branch_9_9!
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> When it comes to more back compat, people are quick to demand more of
>> > >> > >> it every time. But when it comes to addressing the necessary issues to
>> > >> > >> make it work...crickets.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 5:11 AM Robert Muir <rcmuir@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > -1 to release lucene 9.0, as long as branch_8x remains.
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > I know you made a separate thread for this, but it is a real problem.
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > The problem is that we can't support backwards compatibility like
>> > >> > >> > this: releasing 9.0 then 8.12's and stuff. It isn't how the back
>> > >> > >> > compat testing works, it is completely cowboy and unsupported.
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > > I think we should remove it but I remember it was controversial in the past. I'll start a separate thread.
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > > Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 14:38, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>> > >> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> > >> Yes. But we won't have a 8.12 release so I assume the branch_8x is dead. Maybe we should dass a note to it's readme or delete it?
>> > >> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> > >> Uwe
>> > >> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> > >> Am 20. November 2021 13:15:23 UTC schrieb Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>:
>> > >> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >> > >>> We need to keep the 8.11 jobs, but I think they can be disabled. We typically only enable them when we start discussing doing a new patch release?
>> > >> > >> > >>>
>> > >> > >> > >>> Le sam. 20 nov. 2021 à 12:51, Uwe Schindler <uwe@thetaphi.de> a écrit :
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> Hi,
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> I setup my usual release tester job on Policeman Jenkins and it succeeded:
>> > >> > >> > >>>> SUCCESS! [0:19:00.801641]
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> See here for log: https://jenkins.thetaphi.de/job/Lucene-Release-Tester/4/console
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> So it looks like technically the release is fine. I will wait a bit with my +1, because I wanted to manually check the artifacts and javadocs first.
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> I also enabled the 9.0 and 9.x builds on Policeman Jenkins (sorry for the delay). At the same time I disabled 8.x builds. If Solr people still need them we can enable them. But I think the only ones we need now are 8.11.x ones, right?
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> Uwe
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> -----
>> > >> > >> > >>>> Uwe Schindler
>> > >> > >> > >>>> Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
>> > >> > >> > >>>> https://www.thetaphi.de
>> > >> > >> > >>>> eMail: uwe@thetaphi.de
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > From: Adrien Grand <jpountz@gmail.com>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2021 9:25 AM
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > To: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > Subject: [VOTE] Release Lucene 9.0.0 RC1
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > Please vote for release candidate 1 for Lucene 9.0.0.
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > The artifacts can be downloaded from:
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > You can run the smoke tester directly with this command:
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > python3 -u dev-tools/scripts/smokeTestRelease.py \
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/lucene/lucene-9.0.0-RC1-rev-
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > 903ee94dc50643299c15dfa954410f3ee4d62075
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > The vote will be open until 2021-11-24 09:00 UTC.
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +1 approve
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] +0 no opinion
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > [ ] -1 disapprove (and reason why)
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > Here is my +1
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > --
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > Adrien
>> > >> > >> > >>>> >
>> > >> > >> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > >> > >> > >>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
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>> > >> > >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lucene.apache.org
>> > >> > >> > >>>>
>> > >> > >> > >> --
>> > >> > >> > >> Uwe Schindler
>> > >> > >> > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen
>> > >> > >> > >> https://www.thetaphi.de
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Adrien
>> >
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