Mailing List Archive: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list?

[DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list?

Feb 28, 2021, 1:02 PM

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Hi

The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.

I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?

Jan Høydahl

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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

osaf at ovaltofu

Feb 28, 2021, 1:23 PM

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On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, Jan Høydahl wrote:

> Hi
>
> The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some
> user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more
> purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing
> users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>
> I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it
> from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?

I've been sending periodic PyLucene release votes there in order not to spam
lucene-dev but I guess I can use lucene-dev instead ?

Andi..

Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

bruno.roustant at gmail

Mar 1, 2021, 1:12 AM

Post #3 of 10 (613 views)

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+1

Le dim. 28 févr. 2021 à 22:23, Andi Vajda <osaf@ovaltofu.org> a écrit :

>
> On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, Jan Høydahl wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see
> some
> > user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more
> > purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more
> confusing
> > users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
> >
> > I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it
> > from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>
> I've been sending periodic PyLucene release votes there in order not to
> spam
> lucene-dev but I guess I can use lucene-dev instead ?
>
> Andi..
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

tomoko.uchida.1111 at gmail

Mar 1, 2021, 3:44 AM

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> I've been sending periodic PyLucene release votes there in order not to
spam
> lucene-dev but I guess I can use lucene-dev instead ?

In my view it's totally okay to send PyLucene release votes to lucene-dev.

Best,
Tomoko

2021?3?1?(?) 18:12 Bruno Roustant <bruno.roustant@gmail.com>:

> +1
>
> Le dim. 28 févr. 2021 à 22:23, Andi Vajda <osaf@ovaltofu.org> a écrit :
>
>>
>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, Jan Høydahl wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see
>> some
>> > user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more
>> > purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more
>> confusing
>> > users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>> >
>> > I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it
>> > from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>>
>> I've been sending periodic PyLucene release votes there in order not to
>> spam
>> lucene-dev but I guess I can use lucene-dev instead ?
>>
>> Andi..
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

msokolov at gmail

Mar 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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Yes, let's consolidate

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 6:45 AM Tomoko Uchida
<tomoko.uchida.1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been sending periodic PyLucene release votes there in order not to spam
> > lucene-dev but I guess I can use lucene-dev instead ?
>
> In my view it's totally okay to send PyLucene release votes to lucene-dev.
>
> Best,
> Tomoko
>
>
> 2021?3?1?(?) 18:12 Bruno Roustant <bruno.roustant@gmail.com>:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Le dim. 28 févr. 2021 à 22:23, Andi Vajda <osaf@ovaltofu.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Feb 2021, Jan Høydahl wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some
>>> > user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more
>>> > purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing
>>> > users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>>> >
>>> > I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it
>>> > from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>>>
>>> I've been sending periodic PyLucene release votes there in order not to spam
>>> lucene-dev but I guess I can use lucene-dev instead ?
>>>
>>> Andi..
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

dsmiley at apache

Mar 1, 2021, 1:55 PM

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+1 to remove.

~ David Smiley
Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 4:03 PM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
> The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some
> user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more purpose
> when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing users
> and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>
> I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it
> from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>
> Jan Høydahl
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

jan.asf at cominvent

Mar 8, 2021, 5:06 AM

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It's been one week, and there were 5 respondents. Three explicitly in favour of sunsetting the list.
This was not a VOTE, but I'll interpret the response as lazy consensus, and proceed with removing the mention of the list on the website today.

Is there some step to take to shut the list down so it won't accept emails? I can open an INFRA ticker. However, I'll wait another 2 days before doing so.

Jan

> 28. feb. 2021 kl. 22:02 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com>:
>
> Hi
>
> The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>
> I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>
> Jan Høydahl

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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

msokolov at gmail

Mar 8, 2021, 8:56 AM

Post #8 of 10 (611 views)

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maybe send an email to the list informing anyone who's listening?

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:07 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com> wrote:
>
> It's been one week, and there were 5 respondents. Three explicitly in favour of sunsetting the list.
> This was not a VOTE, but I'll interpret the response as lazy consensus, and proceed with removing the mention of the list on the website today.
>
> Is there some step to take to shut the list down so it won't accept emails? I can open an INFRA ticker. However, I'll wait another 2 days before doing so.
>
> Jan
>
> > 28. feb. 2021 kl. 22:02 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com>:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
> >
> > I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
> >
> > Jan Høydahl
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

jan.asf at cominvent

Mar 8, 2021, 9:28 AM

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Yep, that's on my plan.

Jan

> 8. mar. 2021 kl. 17:56 skrev Michael Sokolov <msokolov@gmail.com>:
>
> maybe send an email to the list informing anyone who's listening?
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:07 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com> wrote:
>>
>> It's been one week, and there were 5 respondents. Three explicitly in favour of sunsetting the list.
>> This was not a VOTE, but I'll interpret the response as lazy consensus, and proceed with removing the mention of the list on the website today.
>>
>> Is there some step to take to shut the list down so it won't accept emails? I can open an INFRA ticker. However, I'll wait another 2 days before doing so.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>> 28. feb. 2021 kl. 22:02 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com>:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>>>
>>> I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>>>
>>> Jan Høydahl
>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Sunset the general@l.a.o mailing list? [ In reply to ]

jan.asf at cominvent

Mar 10, 2021, 1:41 AM

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Email to list was sent https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/re7ffb4329bfe916d7e5a4ac1cb31c9118ad738136daaf5df01688b95%40%3Cgeneral.lucene.apache.org%3E
List not announced on web site anymore https://lucene.apache.org/core/discussion.html#retired-mailing-lists
INFRA asked to archive the list https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21550

Some stats from last 12 months:
- 71 emails sent by 47 people
- 31 of those are relase ANNOUNCE mails
- 8 are Pylycene VOTE mails (2 threads)
- 2 are CVE announce mails
- 4 just random / ads / info
- 11 are user questions about Solr that should have been in solr-user@

RIP general@

Jan

> 8. mar. 2021 kl. 18:28 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com>:
>
> Yep, that's on my plan.
>
> Jan
>
>> 8. mar. 2021 kl. 17:56 skrev Michael Sokolov <msokolov@gmail.com>:
>>
>> maybe send an email to the list informing anyone who's listening?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:07 AM Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's been one week, and there were 5 respondents. Three explicitly in favour of sunsetting the list.
>>> This was not a VOTE, but I'll interpret the response as lazy consensus, and proceed with removing the mention of the list on the website today.
>>>
>>> Is there some step to take to shut the list down so it won't accept emails? I can open an INFRA ticker. However, I'll wait another 2 days before doing so.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>> 28. feb. 2021 kl. 22:02 skrev Jan Høydahl <jan.asf@cominvent.com>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> The general@ list is not being used for practically anything. I see some user questions there and we announce releases. It may have had more purpose when there were 5 sub projects in Lucene. Now it is more confusing users and they do not get timely replies. The list has 1088 subscribers.
>>>>
>>>> I propose to discontinue the list, i.e. make it Read-Only and remove it from the web page. Anyone who would miss it?
>>>>
>>>> Jan Høydahl
>>>
>>>
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