Mailing List Archive

Re: [ha-wg] [Pacemaker] [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-11-25T16:46:01, David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com> wrote:

Okay, okay, apparently we have got enough topics to discuss. I'll
grumble a bit more about Brno, but let's get the organisation of that
thing on track ... Sigh. Always so much work!

I'm assuming arrival on the 3rd and departure on the 6th would be the
plan?

> > Personally I'm interested in talking about scaling - with pacemaker-remoted
> > and/or a new messaging/membership layer.
> If we're going to talk about scaling, we should throw in our new docker support
> in the same discussion. Docker lends itself well to the "pet vs cattle" analogy.
> I see management of docker with pacemaker making quite a bit of sense now that we
> have the ability to scale into the "cattle" territory.

While we're on that, I'd like to throw in a heretic thought and suggest
that one might want to look at etcd and fleetd.

> > Other design-y topics:
> > - SBD

Point taken. I have actually not forgotten this Andrew, and am reading
your development. I probably just need to pull the code over ...

> > - degraded mode
> > - improved notifications
> > - containerisation of services (cgroups, docker, virt)
> > - resource-agents (upstream releases, handling of pull requests, testing)
>
> Yep, We definitely need to talk about the resource-agents.

Agreed.

> > User-facing topics could include recent features (ie. pacemaker-remoted,
> > crm_resource --restart) and common deployment scenarios (eg. NFS) that
> > people get wrong.
> Adding to the list, it would be a good idea to talk about Deployment
> integration testing, what's going on with the phd project and why it's
> important regardless if you're interested in what the project functionally
> does.

OK. So QA is within scope as well. It seems the agenda will fill up
quite nicely.


Regards,
Lars

--
Architect Storage/HA
SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
"Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." -- Oscar Wilde

_______________________________________________
ha-wg-technical mailing list
ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical
Re: [Cluster-devel] [ha-wg] [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015 [ In reply to ]
On 11/26/2014 4:41 PM, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:
> On 2014-11-25T16:46:01, David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Okay, okay, apparently we have got enough topics to discuss. I'll
> grumble a bit more about Brno, but let's get the organisation of that
> thing on track ... Sigh. Always so much work!
>
> I'm assuming arrival on the 3rd and departure on the 6th would be the
> plan?

Yes that´s correct. Devconf starts the 6.

Fabio

>
>>> Personally I'm interested in talking about scaling - with pacemaker-remoted
>>> and/or a new messaging/membership layer.
>> If we're going to talk about scaling, we should throw in our new docker support
>> in the same discussion. Docker lends itself well to the "pet vs cattle" analogy.
>> I see management of docker with pacemaker making quite a bit of sense now that we
>> have the ability to scale into the "cattle" territory.
>
> While we're on that, I'd like to throw in a heretic thought and suggest
> that one might want to look at etcd and fleetd.
>
>>> Other design-y topics:
>>> - SBD
>
> Point taken. I have actually not forgotten this Andrew, and am reading
> your development. I probably just need to pull the code over ...
>
>>> - degraded mode
>>> - improved notifications
>>> - containerisation of services (cgroups, docker, virt)
>>> - resource-agents (upstream releases, handling of pull requests, testing)
>>
>> Yep, We definitely need to talk about the resource-agents.
>
> Agreed.
>
>>> User-facing topics could include recent features (ie. pacemaker-remoted,
>>> crm_resource --restart) and common deployment scenarios (eg. NFS) that
>>> people get wrong.
>> Adding to the list, it would be a good idea to talk about Deployment
>> integration testing, what's going on with the phd project and why it's
>> important regardless if you're interested in what the project functionally
>> does.
>
> OK. So QA is within scope as well. It seems the agenda will fill up
> quite nicely.
>
>
> Regards,
> Lars
>
_______________________________________________
ha-wg-technical mailing list
ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical
Re: [ha-wg] [Pacemaker] [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015 [ In reply to ]
> On 27 Nov 2014, at 2:41 am, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.com> wrote:
>
> On 2014-11-25T16:46:01, David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> Okay, okay, apparently we have got enough topics to discuss. I'll
> grumble a bit more about Brno, but let's get the organisation of that
> thing on track ... Sigh. Always so much work!
>
> I'm assuming arrival on the 3rd and departure on the 6th would be the
> plan?
>
>>> Personally I'm interested in talking about scaling - with pacemaker-remoted
>>> and/or a new messaging/membership layer.
>> If we're going to talk about scaling, we should throw in our new docker support
>> in the same discussion. Docker lends itself well to the "pet vs cattle" analogy.
>> I see management of docker with pacemaker making quite a bit of sense now that we
>> have the ability to scale into the "cattle" territory.
>
> While we're on that, I'd like to throw in a heretic thought and suggest
> that one might want to look at etcd and fleetd.

Nod. I suspect the next evolutionary step will be to sit on a NoSQL/Big-data kind of table.... somehow.
I was intending to head down that path last year when I did all that cib work.

>
>>> Other design-y topics:
>>> - SBD
>
> Point taken. I have actually not forgotten this Andrew, and am reading
> your development. I probably just need to pull the code over ...

ok

>
>>> - degraded mode
>>> - improved notifications
>>> - containerisation of services (cgroups, docker, virt)
>>> - resource-agents (upstream releases, handling of pull requests, testing)
>>
>> Yep, We definitely need to talk about the resource-agents.
>
> Agreed.
>
>>> User-facing topics could include recent features (ie. pacemaker-remoted,
>>> crm_resource --restart) and common deployment scenarios (eg. NFS) that
>>> people get wrong.
>> Adding to the list, it would be a good idea to talk about Deployment
>> integration testing, what's going on with the phd project and why it's
>> important regardless if you're interested in what the project functionally
>> does.
>
> OK. So QA is within scope as well. It seems the agenda will fill up
> quite nicely.
>
>
> Regards,
> Lars
>
> --
> Architect Storage/HA
> SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
> "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." -- Oscar Wilde
>
> _______________________________________________
> ha-wg-technical mailing list
> ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical

_______________________________________________
ha-wg-technical mailing list
ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical
Re: [Pacemaker] [ha-wg] [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015 [ In reply to ]
>> On 27 Nov 2014, at 2:41 am, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-11-25T16:46:01, David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, okay, apparently we have got enough topics to discuss. I'll
>> grumble a bit more about Brno, but let's get the organisation of that
>> thing on track ... Sigh. Always so much work!
>>

Will Chris Feist be at the summit? I would be happy to have a roundtable
discussion or something similar about clients, exchange ideas and so
on. I don't necessarily think that there is an urgent need to unify the
efforts code-wise, but I think there is a lot we could do together on
the level of idea exchange without giving up our independence, so to
speak ;)

Of course I would be happy to talk about such things with anyone else
who is interested as well.

--
// Kristoffer Grönlund
// kgronlund@suse.com
_______________________________________________
ha-wg-technical mailing list
ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical
Re: [Pacemaker] [ha-wg] [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015 [ In reply to ]
On 11/27/2014 1:33 PM, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote:
>
>>> On 27 Nov 2014, at 2:41 am, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2014-11-25T16:46:01, David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay, okay, apparently we have got enough topics to discuss. I'll
>>> grumble a bit more about Brno, but let's get the organisation of that
>>> thing on track ... Sigh. Always so much work!
>>>
>
> Will Chris Feist be at the summit?

Yes :)

Fabio

> I would be happy to have a roundtable
> discussion or something similar about clients, exchange ideas and so
> on. I don't necessarily think that there is an urgent need to unify the
> efforts code-wise, but I think there is a lot we could do together on
> the level of idea exchange without giving up our independence, so to
> speak ;)
>
> Of course I would be happy to talk about such things with anyone else
> who is interested as well.
>
_______________________________________________
ha-wg-technical mailing list
ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical
Re: [Pacemaker] [ha-wg] [Cluster-devel] [Linux-HA] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015 [ In reply to ]
On 11/27/2014 1:33 PM, Kristoffer Grönlund wrote:
>
>>> On 27 Nov 2014, at 2:41 am, Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2014-11-25T16:46:01, David Vossel <dvossel@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Okay, okay, apparently we have got enough topics to discuss. I'll
>>> grumble a bit more about Brno, but let's get the organisation of that
>>> thing on track ... Sigh. Always so much work!
>>>
>
> Will Chris Feist be at the summit? I would be happy to have a roundtable
> discussion or something similar about clients, exchange ideas and so
> on. I don't necessarily think that there is an urgent need to unify the
> efforts code-wise, but I think there is a lot we could do together on
> the level of idea exchange without giving up our independence, so to
> speak ;)
>
> Of course I would be happy to talk about such things with anyone else
> who is interested as well.
>

sorry, I keep replying from my private email address...

Yes Chris will be there too.

Fabio
_______________________________________________
ha-wg-technical mailing list
ha-wg-technical@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ha-wg-technical