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Non Interchange Sites in the Hall of Fame?
Hi Folks,

Further to my previous question on session ids and mv_pc I thought I would
look through some sites in the Hall of Fame to see what others did to find a
lot of these sites not even using Interchange!

How is it that some of the "Noteworthy Interchange Implementations" are
running Magento and god knows what other software?

Perhaps some of us still using and developing Interchange sites could have a
promotion to that section and the spam sites removed?

TIA,
Andy


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Re: Non Interchange Sites in the Hall of Fame? [ In reply to ]
On 19/10/17 10:54, IC wrote:
> Further to my previous question on session ids and mv_pc I thought I would
> look through some sites in the Hall of Fame to see what others did to find a
> lot of these sites not even using Interchange!
>
> How is it that some of the "Noteworthy Interchange Implementations" are
> running Magento and god knows what other software?

They would have been running Interchange at the time they were added to
the hall of fame and then later switched to another platform.

> Perhaps some of us still using and developing Interchange sites could have a
> promotion to that section and the spam sites removed?

It probably is a good time to review the list.


Peter

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Re: Non Interchange Sites in the Hall of Fame? [ In reply to ]
On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, Peter wrote:

> On 19/10/17 10:54, IC wrote:
>> Further to my previous question on session ids and mv_pc I thought I would
>> look through some sites in the Hall of Fame to see what others did to find a
>> lot of these sites not even using Interchange!
>>
>> How is it that some of the "Noteworthy Interchange Implementations" are
>> running Magento and god knows what other software?
>
> They would have been running Interchange at the time they were added to
> the hall of fame and then later switched to another platform.
>
>> Perhaps some of us still using and developing Interchange sites could have a
>> promotion to that section and the spam sites removed?
>
> It probably is a good time to review the list.

I personally review the list about once per year and remove defunct sites
or ones no longer on Interchange. We also add new ones occasionally too,
of course.

But things keep changing all the time and it's rare that anyone else helps
with this.

It'll be very helpful if you send in a list of any you sites you think
should be removed.

Thanks,
Jon


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Re: Non Interchange Sites in the Hall of Fame? [ In reply to ]
On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Peter wrote:
> On 19/10/17 10:54, IC wrote:
>> How is it that some of the "Noteworthy Interchange Implementations" are
>> running Magento and god knows what other software?
> They would have been running Interchange at the time they were added to
> the hall of fame and then later switched to another platform.
This comment comes at a good time for our store. New management wants to
re-vamp our webstore. We have been running interchange for years, and I
have been avoiding upgrading to 5.10 in the hopes that 6.0 would be
worth the wait. I went hunting and found a few repos on github, but they
do not appear to very active:

https://github.com/interchange/Flowers - Dec 31, 2014
https://github.com/interchange/Interchange6 - May 23, 2016
https://github.com/interchange/Interchange6-Demo-Shop - Mar 29, 2017

I am getting pressure to jump ship to a shiny new PHP system.

Sadly google searches for "open source shopping carts" produces many Top
N Open Source Shopping Carts lists, none of which mention interchange.

Could someone involved in IC6 comment on the status of the project and
possibly update http://www.icdevgroup.org/i/dev/roadmap. Am I missing a
more active repo? Are there any plans for a 'release'? Is there a demo
store like the 5.x demo store on icdevgroup.org anywhere?

Thanks

Angus


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Re: Non Interchange Sites in the Hall of Fame? [ In reply to ]
On 10/19/2017 02:33 PM, Rogerson, Angus wrote:
>
> On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Peter wrote:
>> On 19/10/17 10:54, IC wrote:
>>> How is it that some of the "Noteworthy Interchange Implementations" are
>>> running Magento and god knows what other software?
>> They would have been running Interchange at the time they were added to
>> the hall of fame and then later switched to another platform.
> This comment comes at a good time for our store. New management wants to
> re-vamp our webstore. We have been running interchange for years, and I
> have been avoiding upgrading to 5.10 in the hopes that 6.0 would be
> worth the wait. I went hunting and found a few repos on github, but they
> do not appear to very active:
>
> https://github.com/interchange/Flowers - Dec 31, 2014
> https://github.com/interchange/Interchange6 - May 23, 2016
> https://github.com/interchange/Interchange6-Demo-Shop - Mar 29, 2017
>
> I am getting pressure to jump ship to a shiny new PHP system.
>
> Sadly google searches for "open source shopping carts" produces many Top
> N Open Source Shopping Carts lists, none of which mention interchange.
>
> Could someone involved in IC6 comment on the status of the project and
> possibly update http://www.icdevgroup.org/i/dev/roadmap. Am I missing a
> more active repo? Are there any plans for a 'release'? Is there a demo
> store like the 5.x demo store on icdevgroup.org anywhere?

Angus,

RE: IC6 Although the code base exists and could be extended/used it
would involve a fairly good amount of time for the developer to get up
to speed on the core technologies. These include Dancer2, DBIx::Class
and Template::Flute. The best example of a live demo that we have is the
https://perl.dance website. So in short what you see is pretty much the
core of things I would add.

https://github.com/interchange/interchange6-schema
https://github.com/interchange/Dancer2-Plugin-Interchange6
https://github.com/interchange/Dancer2-Plugin-TemplateFlute
https://github.com/interchange/Perl-Dancer-Conference

As you can see development has stalled mainly due to the fact that it
has not been strongly embraced by the community more or less because
because Interchange 5 still works. Saying that if you were willing to
put in the time to further development and learn the ecosystem I know
that I and I am sure others would assist in your efforts. But this will
not be a simple project. Your efforts would probably be best served by
updating to 5.10+git. But if you decide to take the road less traveled
support does exist and you would be moving the community members towards
a nice Perl cart rather then some over-hyped PHP *cough* solution. That
is the state of things from my end SysPete, racke, others? may have
additional input.

Best,
-Sam




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Re: Non Interchange Sites in the Hall of Fame? [ In reply to ]
> On Oct 19, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Sam Batschelet <samb@endpoint.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/19/2017 02:33 PM, Rogerson, Angus wrote:
>>
>> On 10/18/2017 7:26 PM, Peter wrote:
>>> On 19/10/17 10:54, IC wrote:
>>>> How is it that some of the "Noteworthy Interchange Implementations" are
>>>> running Magento and god knows what other software?
>>> They would have been running Interchange at the time they were added to
>>> the hall of fame and then later switched to another platform.
>> This comment comes at a good time for our store. New management wants to re-vamp our webstore. We have been running interchange for years, and I have been avoiding upgrading to 5.10 in the hopes that 6.0 would be worth the wait. I went hunting and found a few repos on github, but they do not appear to very active:
>> https://github.com/interchange/Flowers - Dec 31, 2014
>> https://github.com/interchange/Interchange6 - May 23, 2016
>> https://github.com/interchange/Interchange6-Demo-Shop - Mar 29, 2017
>> I am getting pressure to jump ship to a shiny new PHP system.
>> Sadly google searches for "open source shopping carts" produces many Top N Open Source Shopping Carts lists, none of which mention interchange.
>> Could someone involved in IC6 comment on the status of the project and possibly update http://www.icdevgroup.org/i/dev/roadmap. Am I missing a more active repo? Are there any plans for a 'release'? Is there a demo store like the 5.x demo store on icdevgroup.org anywhere?
>
> Angus,
>
> RE: IC6 Although the code base exists and could be extended/used it would involve a fairly good amount of time for the developer to get up to speed on the core technologies. These include Dancer2, DBIx::Class and Template::Flute. The best example of a live demo that we have is the https://perl.dance <https://perl.dance/> website. So in short what you see is pretty much the core of things I would add.
>
> https://github.com/interchange/interchange6-schema <https://github.com/interchange/interchange6-schema>
> https://github.com/interchange/Dancer2-Plugin-Interchange6 <https://github.com/interchange/Dancer2-Plugin-Interchange6>
> https://github.com/interchange/Dancer2-Plugin-TemplateFlute <https://github.com/interchange/Dancer2-Plugin-TemplateFlute>
> https://github.com/interchange/Perl-Dancer-Conference <https://github.com/interchange/Perl-Dancer-Conference>
>
> As you can see development has stalled mainly due to the fact that it has not been strongly embraced by the community more or less because because Interchange 5 still works. Saying that if you were willing to put in the time to further development and learn the ecosystem I know that I and I am sure others would assist in your efforts. But this will not be a simple project. Your efforts would probably be best served by updating to 5.10+git. But if you decide to take the road less traveled support does exist and you would be moving the community members towards a nice Perl cart rather then some over-hyped PHP *cough* solution. That is the state of things from my end SysPete, racke, others? may have additional input.
>
> Best,
> -Sam


Additionally, most of the “shiny” comes from the front-end interface to the site, which is really independent from the backend system in place. We have made any number of site transitions to fresher-looking front-ends than the standard demo store, including responsive designs with modern JS front-end interfaces. Depending on your site’s pricing rules and business complexity, there may be a fair amount involved with the transition to another platform, when a redesign might be sufficient.

Best,

David
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