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Mastodon account, good server?
Hi friends of GnuPG,

seems to be a good time to start an official Mastodon account
for GnuPG and related topics like Gpg4win and OpenPGP.

At least for announcements and some interaction as the interest
is growing for this decentral platform.

Is there an interest here? Should be do this?

If we do this, a server needs to be select.
I'd probably go and suggest one my initial rough requirements:
* located in Europe
* can be volunteeringly paid for
* some volume / track record to expect a good administration
* a moderation and contents policy that allows for respectful
exchange, but is liberal in that commercial Free Software
topics (and broad other topics) are allowed as well.
* (optional) Free Software and privacy friendly organisation

Any suggestions matching these?

Best Regards
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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
On 2022-12-01 17:42, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> Hi friends of GnuPG,
>
> seems to be a good time to start an official Mastodon account
> for GnuPG and related topics like Gpg4win and OpenPGP.
>
> At least for announcements and some interaction as the interest
> is growing for this decentral platform.
>
> Is there an interest here? Should be do this?
>
> If we do this, a server needs to be select.
> I'd probably go and suggest one my initial rough requirements:
> * located in Europe
> * can be volunteeringly paid for
> * some volume / track record to expect a good administration
> * a moderation and contents policy that allows for respectful
> exchange, but is liberal in that commercial Free Software
> topics (and broad other topics) are allowed as well.
> * (optional) Free Software and privacy friendly organisation
>
> Any suggestions matching these?

I have high confidence in https://mstdn.social, located in NL and
administered by @stux.

- Jan
Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
On 1 Dec 2022, at 16:42, Bernhard Reiter <bernhard@intevation.de> wrote:
>
> Hi friends of GnuPG,
>
> seems to be a good time to start an official Mastodon account
> for GnuPG and related topics like Gpg4win and OpenPGP.
>
> At least for announcements and some interaction as the interest
> is growing for this decentral platform.
>
> Is there an interest here? Should be do this?

I would say so, yes.

> If we do this, a server needs to be select.
> I'd probably go and suggest one my initial rough requirements:
> * located in Europe
> * can be volunteeringly paid for
> * some volume / track record to expect a good administration
> * a moderation and contents policy that allows for respectful
> exchange, but is liberal in that commercial Free Software
> topics (and broad other topics) are allowed as well.
> * (optional) Free Software and privacy friendly organisation
>
> Any suggestions matching these?


infosec.exchange is hosted in the EU (via Hetzner) and has a focus on security, encryption etc. without being prescriptive. I haven’t seen any abuse on it personally, and they have fediblocked a significant list of known hate sites. It’s run by Jerry Bell, who’s pretty respectable (CISO of IBMCloud), and a significant fraction of the security/encryption people I follow(ed) on Twitter use it. You can support it financially via liberapay.com

(other security/foss themed mastodon sites are available. YMMV etc etc)

A
Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
On 01/12/2022 18:51, Andrew Gallagher via Gnupg-users wrote:>
infosec.exchange is hosted in the EU (via Hetzner) and has a focus on
security, encryption etc. without being prescriptive. I haven’t seen any
abuse on it personally, and they have fediblocked a significant list of
known hate sites. It’s run by Jerry Bell, who’s pretty respectable (CISO
of IBMCloud), and a significant fraction of the security/encryption
people I follow(ed) on Twitter use it. You can support it financially
via liberapay.com

Would make sense, but my understanding is they're getting blocked for
hosting a DHS-affiliated account. Not taking sides on whether 1) hosting
the account is good, 2) the blocking is good. Just that it might not
have optimal reach.

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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
Hello to all,

Am 01.12.22 um 20:43 schrieb modulus via Gnupg-users:
> On 01/12/2022 18:51, Andrew Gallagher via Gnupg-users wrote:>
> infosec.exchange is hosted in the EU (via Hetzner) and has a focus on
> security, encryption etc. without being prescriptive. I haven’t seen any
> abuse on it personally, and they have fediblocked a significant list of
> known hate sites. It’s run by Jerry Bell, who’s pretty respectable (CISO
> of IBMCloud), and a significant fraction of the security/encryption
> people I follow(ed) on Twitter use it. You can support it financially
> via liberapay.com
>
> Would make sense, but my understanding is they're getting blocked for
> hosting a DHS-affiliated account. Not taking sides on whether 1) hosting
> the account is good, 2) the blocking is good. Just that it might not
> have optimal reach.
>

What do you think about hosting your own Mastodon instance under the
domain gnupg.org. Then it would be under full control.
And there would certainly be no problems with blocked instances and so on.

just my 2C

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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
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Hi,

I would suggest to evaluate "fosstodon.org".

Server seems to be in France (and mail server in Swiss). Domain
registered in 2017 so it isn't an instance created in the boom. By
patreon on can contribute. I haven't check specifically for the liberal
in commercial FS topics. And, it is oriented to FOSS so I thing the
optional requirement.

./Sergi

On Thu, 2022-12-01 at 17:42 +0100, Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> Hi friends of GnuPG,
>
> seems to be a good time to start an official Mastodon account
> for GnuPG and related topics like Gpg4win and OpenPGP.
>
> At least for announcements and some interaction as the interest
> is growing for this decentral platform.
>
> Is there an interest here?  Should be do this?
>
> If we do this, a server needs to be select.
> I'd probably go and suggest one my initial rough requirements:
>  * located in Europe
>  * can be volunteeringly paid for
>  * some volume / track record to expect a good administration
>  * a moderation and contents policy that allows for respectful
>    exchange, but is liberal in that commercial Free Software
>    topics (and broad other topics) are allowed as well.
>  * (optional) Free Software and privacy friendly organisation
>
> Any suggestions matching these?
>
> Best Regards
> Bernhard
>
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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
On 02/12/2022 17:57, Juergen M. Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote:

> What do you think about hosting your own Mastodon instance under the domain gnupg.org. Then it would be under full control.
> And there would certainly be no problems with blocked instances and so on.

The idea is good. But is there a desire, time and server capacity to support self-hosted installation?


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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 11:48:34AM +1030, Andrew Savchenko via Gnupg-users wrote:
> On 02/12/2022 17:57, Juergen M. Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote:
>
> > What do you think about hosting your own Mastodon instance under the domain gnupg.org. Then it would be under full control.
> > And there would certainly be no problems with blocked instances and so on.
>
> The idea is good. But is there a desire, time and server capacity to support self-hosted installation?
>
>

Well, in general I might volunteer some resources. However I work mostly on
the AWS cloud here in the US. I heard some resentments against the instance
being located in the US.
I also registered gnupg.social and I m donating this to the effort and
promise to keep the registration current.

There would also be the question who controls/feeds the "official" account.

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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
Hello to all,

Am 03.12.22 um 14:55 schrieb Henning Follmann:
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 11:48:34AM +1030, Andrew Savchenko via Gnupg-users wrote:
>> On 02/12/2022 17:57, Juergen M. Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote:
>>
>>> What do you think about hosting your own Mastodon instance under the domain gnupg.org. Then it would be under full control.
>>> And there would certainly be no problems with blocked instances and so on.
>>
>> The idea is good. But is there a desire, time and server capacity to support self-hosted installation?
>>
>>
>
> Well, in general I might volunteer some resources. However I work mostly on
> the AWS cloud here in the US. I heard some resentments against the instance
> being located in the US.
> I also registered gnupg.social and I m donating this to the effort and
> promise to keep the registration current.
>
> There would also be the question who controls/feeds the "official" account.
>
> -H
>
I generally host at Contabo [1], a German provider. If desired, I would
offer to provide you with a VPS instance and fully cover these costs for
the first year. If after that (or in general) someone wants to
contribute to the costs, we will definitely find a solution that is
acceptable to everyone.

And I think Henning's offer about the domain gnupg.social is very
suitable for this project.

In my view, someone from the GnuPG core team should be in control of the
account.

Any other opinions and suggestions?


[1] www.contabo.com
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Re: Mastodon account, good server? [ In reply to ]
It's not the technical work or the system resources that are really the
challenge (I think that there is plenty of technical volunteers).
It's the promises about moderation and other softer human resources that seem
to really be the limit for running Mastodon instances.

Maybe FSF.org will do something.