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Ban HTML mails? Really?(was: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt)
I'm sorry, but all this stuff becomes slightly off-topic....

Am 23.11.2020 07:08, schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> El día lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan
> Wevers escribió:
>
>> On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote:
>>
>> > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so important for some people.
>>
>> I agree on a personal level, but if you use your email also to
>> communicate with business users (usually using Outlook) it would be
>> nice
>> to get their mails in a human readable format. Which requires,
>> unfortunately, usually html.
>
> Since ages human read mails in ASCII or UTF-8 text. Why you think this
> is not a "human readable format"?
>
> HTML as e-mail (read carefully: as email, not as attachment) should be
> forbidden because most MUA automatically fetch additional remote
> content
> which violates privacy and can fetch bad content into your system.
> You're warned.
>
> matthias


should.... should... Sorry?
In a perfect world we can choose our communication partners. In a
semi-perfect world we can at least try to missionate against HTML mails,
but maybe with not much success. In the real world we have very often no
choice.
This battle is lost. The only choice is to harden the MUAs. Everything
else is IMHO a quite academic disussion.

Regards
another Matthias

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Re: Ban HTML mails? Really?(was: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt) [ In reply to ]
As a personal policy, I do not respond to emails if they are only in HTML. It provides an excellent signal on when an email is actually worth the distraction. Even password-reset/verify-your-email emails will have text-only components. Mailchimp marketing emails, on the other hand, often skip over the plaintext version (text-only emails don't convert in their metrics, i imagine the images don't load and they don't know you read it).

This battle has only been lost when you give up.

On 2020-11-23T11:39:39+0100 Mansfeld Elektronik <m.mansfeld@mansfeld-elektronik.de> wrote 2.0K bytes:

> I'm sorry, but all this stuff becomes slightly off-topic....
>
> Am 23.11.2020 07:08, schrieb Matthias Apitz:
> > El d?a lunes, noviembre 23, 2020 a las 03:03:54a. m. +0100, Johan
> > Wevers escribi?:
> >
> > > On 22-11-2020 12:38, Juergen Bruckner via Gnupg-users wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't understand why HTML in e-Mails is so important for some people.
> > >
> > > I agree on a personal level, but if you use your email also to
> > > communicate with business users (usually using Outlook) it would be
> > > nice
> > > to get their mails in a human readable format. Which requires,
> > > unfortunately, usually html.
> >
> > Since ages human read mails in ASCII or UTF-8 text. Why you think this
> > is not a "human readable format"?
> >
> > HTML as e-mail (read carefully: as email, not as attachment) should be
> > forbidden because most MUA automatically fetch additional remote content
> > which violates privacy and can fetch bad content into your system.
> > You're warned.
> >
> > matthias
>
>
> should.... should... Sorry?
> In a perfect world we can choose our communication partners. In a
> semi-perfect world we can at least try to missionate against HTML mails, but
> maybe with not much success. In the real world we have very often no choice.
> This battle is lost. The only choice is to harden the MUAs. Everything else
> is IMHO a quite academic disussion.
>
> Regards
> another Matthias
>
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Re: Ban HTML mails? Really?(was: Re: Thunderbird / Enigmail / Autocrypt) [ In reply to ]
El día martes, noviembre 24, 2020 a las 12:16:12a. m. +0000, Philihp Busby via Gnupg-users escribió:

> As a personal policy, I do not respond to emails if they are only in HTML. It provides an excellent signal on when an email is actually worth the distraction. Even password-reset/verify-your-email emails will have text-only components. Mailchimp marketing emails, on the other hand, often skip over the plaintext version (text-only emails don't convert in their metrics, i imagine the images don't load and they don't know you read it).
>
> This battle has only been lost when you give up.
>

There are some other two battles to win: Don't top post and, second,
break your text lines around coulmn 72 :-)

matthias
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