Mailing List Archive: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp

Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp

Dec 26, 2022, 5:43 PM

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mutt has served me well over the years, but thanks to *BRAINDEAD
CORPORATE IDIOTS* I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that
replaces 1 page of text. These aren't just plain spammers, but
businesses that I deal with regularly. It seems that plaintext email is
going the way of cursive writing. Any suggestions for an MUA that can
spit out rmail to port 25?

--
I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe; Gopher, Netscape with
frames, the first Browser Wars. Searching for pages with AltaVista,
pop-up windows self-replicating, trying to uninstall RealPlayer. All
those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain... time to die.

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

ostroffjh at users

Dec 26, 2022, 6:04 PM

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On 12/26/22 20:43, Walter Dnes wrote:
> mutt has served me well over the years, but thanks to *BRAINDEAD
> CORPORATE IDIOTS* I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that
> replaces 1 page of text. These aren't just plain spammers, but
> businesses that I deal with regularly. It seems that plaintext email is
> going the way of cursive writing. Any suggestions for an MUA that can
> spit out rmail to port 25?

Can't mutt open an html message or attachment in a browser?

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

rosenbaumd181 at gmail

Dec 26, 2022, 7:32 PM

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Dave

On Mon, Dec 26, 2022, 9:06 PM Jack <ostroffjh@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> On 12/26/22 20:43, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > mutt has served me well over the years, but thanks to *BRAINDEAD
> > CORPORATE IDIOTS* I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that
> > replaces 1 page of text. These aren't just plain spammers, but
> > businesses that I deal with regularly. It seems that plaintext email is
> > going the way of cursive writing. Any suggestions for an MUA that can
> > spit out rmail to port 25?
>
> Can't mutt open an html message or attachment in a browser?
>
>
>

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

purslow at ca

Dec 26, 2022, 7:37 PM

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221226 Walter Dnes wrote:
> Mutt has served me well over the years,

Me too, since c 1998.

> but thanks to *BRAINDEAD CORPORATE IDIOTS*
> I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that replaces 1 page of text.
> These aren't just plain spammers, but businesses that I deal with regularly.
> It seems that plaintext email is going the way of cursive writing.
> Any suggestions for an MUA that can spit out rmail to port 25 ?

I use Most to browse e-mails & Gvim to edit replies.
If there's a link to goto an HTML version,
I R-click on the URL & choose to open it in Firefox.
If there's no link, but it's presented as HTML,
I copy-paste the URL to Firefox & open it similarly.

Mutt is so good, I'm willing to take this slight detour
rather than wade thro' the mud of a GUI client.

--
========================,,============================================
SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

gentoo at tastytea

Dec 26, 2022, 9:10 PM

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On 2022-12-26 20:43-0500 "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> mutt has served me well over the years, but thanks to *BRAINDEAD
> CORPORATE IDIOTS* I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that
> replaces 1 page of text. These aren't just plain spammers, but
> businesses that I deal with regularly. It seems that plaintext email
> is going the way of cursive writing. Any suggestions for an MUA that
> can spit out rmail to port 25?
>

I use mail-client/claws-mail, with the dillo plugin to view the
occasional HTML only email. It apparently also has a webkit plugin, in
case you get “extra fancy” mails.

claws-mail is pretty lightweight, very configurable, can spawn an
external editor to write emails but can't send HTML emails itself AFAIK.

Kind regards, tastytea

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

neil at digimed

Dec 27, 2022, 12:17 PM

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2022 06:10:17 +0100, tastytea wrote:

> > mutt has served me well over the years, but thanks to *BRAINDEAD
> > CORPORATE IDIOTS* I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that
> > replaces 1 page of text. These aren't just plain spammers, but
> > businesses that I deal with regularly. It seems that plaintext email
> > is going the way of cursive writing. Any suggestions for an MUA that
> > can spit out rmail to port 25?
> >
>
> I use mail-client/claws-mail, with the dillo plugin to view the
> occasional HTML only email. It apparently also has a webkit plugin, in
> case you get “extra fancy” mails.

Another vote for Claws here, although i use the liteHTML plugin, which
seems to handle more than Dillo, but without the overhead of webkit.

It can also open HTML emails in your preferred browser.

--
Neil Bothwick

"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest." - Benjamin
Franklin

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

waltdnes at waltdnes

Dec 28, 2022, 9:16 AM

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 09:04:07PM -0500, Jack wrote

> Can't mutt open an html message or attachment in a browser?

You can specify a program to use on attachments. But this doesn't
work where the email itself is HTML.

--
I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe; Gopher, Netscape with
frames, the first Browser Wars. Searching for pages with AltaVista,
pop-up windows self-replicating, trying to uninstall RealPlayer. All
those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain... time to die.

RE: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

lperkins at openeye

Dec 28, 2022, 10:05 AM

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2022 9:17 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 09:04:07PM -0500, Jack wrote
>
> > Can't mutt open an html message or attachment in a browser?
>
> You can specify a program to use on attachments. But this doesn't work where the email itself is HTML.
>
> --
> I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe; Gopher, Netscape with frames, the first Browser Wars. Searching for pages with AltaVista, pop-up windows self-replicating, trying to uninstall RealPlayer. All those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain... time to die.
>

Is there an option to tell it to open the whole message in an external program? If not, then that would seem like a relatively simple feature to add; and a rather useful one at that.

LMP

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

waltdnes at waltdnes

Dec 29, 2022, 4:54 AM

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On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 08:17:42PM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote
>
> Another vote for Claws here, although i use the liteHTML plugin, which
> seems to handle more than Dillo, but without the overhead of webkit.
>
> It can also open HTML emails in your preferred browser.

Does Claws work with Maildir directories?

--
I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe; Gopher, Netscape with
frames, the first Browser Wars. Searching for pages with AltaVista,
pop-up windows self-replicating, trying to uninstall RealPlayer. All
those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain... time to die.

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

waltdnes at waltdnes

Dec 29, 2022, 5:38 AM

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One more thing... can Claws spit out email to port 25 so that ssmtp
can pass it on to my ISP's mailserver?

--
I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe; Gopher, Netscape with
frames, the first Browser Wars. Searching for pages with AltaVista,
pop-up windows self-replicating, trying to uninstall RealPlayer. All
those moments, will be lost in time like tears in rain... time to die.

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

gentoo at tastytea

Dec 29, 2022, 5:53 AM

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On 2022-12-29 07:54-0500 "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 08:17:42PM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote
> >
> > Another vote for Claws here, although i use the liteHTML plugin,
> > which seems to handle more than Dillo, but without the overhead of
> > webkit.
> >
> > It can also open HTML emails in your preferred browser.
>
> Does Claws work with Maildir directories?

Yes and no. There is an unmaintained plugin that supposedly kinda works.
<https://www.claws-mail.org/faq/index.php/Plugins#I_love_maildir_format._Is_there_a_useful_replacement_in_Claws_Mail.2C_which_is_better_than_the_maildir_plugin_.3F>

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gentoo at tastytea

Dec 29, 2022, 5:57 AM

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On 2022-12-29 08:38-0500 "Walter Dnes" <waltdnes@waltdnes.org> wrote:

> One more thing... can Claws spit out email to port 25 so that ssmtp
> can pass it on to my ISP's mailserver?

Yes, it can talk SMTP on whatever port you want and you can configure
the sending server individually from the receiving server.

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

neil at digimed

Dec 29, 2022, 6:40 AM

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 07:54:00 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 08:17:42PM +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote
> >
> > Another vote for Claws here, although i use the liteHTML plugin, which
> > seems to handle more than Dillo, but without the overhead of webkit.
> >
> > It can also open HTML emails in your preferred browser.
>
> Does Claws work with Maildir directories?

Yes

--
Neil Bothwick

I am McCoy of Bo...Damnit! I'm a doctor, not a collective!

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

neil at digimed

Dec 29, 2022, 6:41 AM

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On Thu, 29 Dec 2022 08:38:08 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:

> One more thing... can Claws spit out email to port 25 so that ssmtp
> can pass it on to my ISP's mailserver?

Yes, I have used it like that.

--
Neil Bothwick

Beware of cover disks bearing upgrades.

Re: Looking for simple GUI MUA that works with ssmtp [ In reply to ]

zem42 at gmx

Dec 29, 2022, 7:32 AM

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On 26/12/22 at 10:37, Philip Webb wrote:
>221226 Walter Dnes wrote:
>> Mutt has served me well over the years,
>
>Me too, since c 1998.
>
>> but thanks to *BRAINDEAD CORPORATE IDIOTS*
>> I need a GUI client to parse 100 K of HTML that replaces 1 page of text.
>> These aren't just plain spammers, but businesses that I deal with regularly.
>> It seems that plaintext email is going the way of cursive writing.
>> Any suggestions for an MUA that can spit out rmail to port 25 ?
>
>I use Most to browse e-mails & Gvim to edit replies.
>If there's a link to goto an HTML version,
>I R-click on the URL & choose to open it in Firefox.
>If there's no link, but it's presented as HTML,
>I copy-paste the URL to Firefox & open it similarly.
>
>Mutt is so good, I'm willing to take this slight detour
>rather than wade thro' the mud of a GUI client.
>
>--
>========================,,============================================
>SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
>ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
>TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
>
>
I startet migrating from Thunderbird to Mutt a year or two ago and it
took me a lot of searching through the interwebs re HTML.
Now I use www-client/w3m to represent HTML inline, anything fancy I open in
my main-browser. The mail is saved in a temporary directory. Pressing
'v', highlighting the 'text/html'-line an pressing 'm' does the trick.

From my .mutt/mailcap:
text/html; mkdir -p /tmp/mutt \; cp %s /tmp/mutt \; librewolf /tmp/mutt/$(basename %s) &;

text/html; w3m -I %{charset} -T text/html; copiousoutput;

Kind regards,
Carsten