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I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021

May 9, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Subject: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or
10 inch touch screen display in June 2021

Good day from Singapore,

I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch
touch screen display in June 2021.

Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - 8GB (Latest) - Price SGD$120

https://sg.cytron.io/c-raspberry-pi/c-raspberry-pi-main-board/c-raspberry-pi-4/p-raspberry-pi-4-model-b-8gb-latest

Raspberry Pi 7 Inch Touch Screen Display With SmartiPi Case - Price SGD$147

https://sg.cytron.io/c-raspberry-pi/c-raspberry-pi-display/c-display-for-rpi-4/p-raspberry-pi-7in-touch-screen-with-smartipi-case

Do you think it is a good match?

I want to use my Raspberry Pi like a regular laptop or desktop
computer. Would a 7 inch touch screen display be too small for my use
case? I don't want to strain my eyes looking at a small display.
However, if I get a 10 inch touch screen display, I can't find one
with a supporting base. I can't find a 10 inch touch screen display
with a supporting base which could allow the screen to stand
vertically.

Finally, does your Linux distribution support Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
GB? Can I do 4K Ultra HD video editing on the Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
GB? Like adding watermarks, and cutting away unwanted 4K scenes. Is
there a good 4K video editing software for Linux?

I am looking forward to your reply.

Thank you very much.

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with a System Integrator (SI)/computer firm in Singapore. He is an IT
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Re: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021 [ In reply to ]

kusoneko at kusoneko

May 9, 2021, 8:13 AM

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On Sun, May 09, 2021 at 04:29:12PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>Subject: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or
>10 inch touch screen display in June 2021
>
>Good day from Singapore,
>
>I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch
>touch screen display in June 2021.
>
>Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - 8GB (Latest) - Price SGD$120
>
>https://sg.cytron.io/c-raspberry-pi/c-raspberry-pi-main-board/c-raspberry-pi-4/p-raspberry-pi-4-model-b-8gb-latest
>
>Raspberry Pi 7 Inch Touch Screen Display With SmartiPi Case - Price SGD$147
>
>https://sg.cytron.io/c-raspberry-pi/c-raspberry-pi-display/c-display-for-rpi-4/p-raspberry-pi-7in-touch-screen-with-smartipi-case
>
>Do you think it is a good match?
>
>I want to use my Raspberry Pi like a regular laptop or desktop
>computer. Would a 7 inch touch screen display be too small for my use
>case? I don't want to strain my eyes looking at a small display.
>However, if I get a 10 inch touch screen display, I can't find one
>with a supporting base. I can't find a 10 inch touch screen display
>with a supporting base which could allow the screen to stand
>vertically.
>
>Finally, does your Linux distribution support Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
>GB? Can I do 4K Ultra HD video editing on the Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
>GB? Like adding watermarks, and cutting away unwanted 4K scenes. Is
>there a good 4K video editing software for Linux?
>
>I am looking forward to your reply.
>
>Thank you very much.
>

Hello,

I can't say anything about the Raspberry Pi part, as I don't have one
and have never used one, however, I believe every CPU architectures are
supported on Gentoo. However, you might need a keyboard to properly set
it up until you have touchscreen support and a virtual keyboard, and
likely to help with rescuing the OS if for some reason something breaks.
Maintaining a Gentoo distro on a CPU architecture that isn't x86_64/amd64
might also be quite the task, as I'm not quite sure how used other
architectures are. As for 4K video editing software, as I am not a video
editor at all, I cannot tell you what the video editing software options
are on Linux as a whole. What I can tell you however is that if you
don't plan on putting in some effort and time to make Gentoo to your
taste and all, using Gentoo might be a bad idea, as it is a distribution
based on the concept of building the OS you want. Updates also require
recompiling all the software that is updated, and if you don't update
regularly enough (let's say at least monthly), you might end up like one
of the many other people who end up with an unupdatable system that end
up on this mailing list. If you are seeking an easy to use and easy to
maintain distribution for your Raspberry Pi, you might be better off
looking into one of the distributions based around Pis such as Raspbian.
I can't however promise that any of them will be good distributions for
your use case as, like I said, I have no Raspberry Pis and therefore
haven't tried doing anything with one.

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Re: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021 [ In reply to ]

nils.freydank at posteo

May 9, 2021, 2:28 PM

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Am Sonntag, den 09.05.2021 um 11:13:47 Uhr -0400 schrieb Kusoneko <kusoneko@kusoneko.moe>:
> On Sun, May 09, 2021 at 04:29:12PM +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Finally, does your Linux distribution support Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
> > GB? Can I do 4K Ultra HD video editing on the Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
> > GB? Like adding watermarks, and cutting away unwanted 4K scenes. Is
> > there a good 4K video editing software for Linux?

Hi folks,

as far as I know video editing needs lots of RAM and CPU in general, so I would
go for a system with plenty CPU cores and much RAM, at least 32 GiB, better
more. This would make the system future-proof to some degree in different ways:
- You will need much memory for huge (GUI) software like libreoffice, chromium,
qtwebengine and similiar in the future.
- You will need the memory for video editing, especially if you like to use a
GUI programm to do so.
- The general trend was always to use more and more memory for each application,
and my last hardware was an x86 CPU (not ARM like the Raspberry Pies) with
only 8 GiB of RAM which wasn't fun anymore with Gentoo.

For the software I would take a look at kdenlive and ffmpeg (both have packages
in probably every linux distribution):

https://kdenlive.org/en
https://ffmpeg.org

The Raspberry Pi image (stage3) seems to be unmaintained so far:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit

@Kusoneko:
> Hello,
> [...] however, I believe every CPU architectures are supported on Gentoo.
Actually not. Gentoo supports *many* and even older architectures, but not
all. If there is no-one to maintain it than there is no support. No hard
feelings, just pure pragmatism.

Kind regards,
Nils

Re: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021 [ In reply to ]

gentoo at jonesmz

May 9, 2021, 2:53 PM

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On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 4:29 PM Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de>
wrote:

> The Raspberry Pi image (stage3) seems to be unmaintained so far:
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit
>

There's a maintained image for 64bit raspberry pi's with this project:
https://github.com/GenPi64

Re: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021 [ In reply to ]

markknecht at gmail

May 9, 2021, 3:09 PM

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On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 1:29 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
ceo.teo.en.ming@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or
> 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021
>
> Good day from Singapore,
>
> I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch
> touch screen display in June 2021.
>
> Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - 8GB (Latest) - Price SGD$120
>
>
https://sg.cytron.io/c-raspberry-pi/c-raspberry-pi-main-board/c-raspberry-pi-4/p-raspberry-pi-4-model-b-8gb-latest
>
> Raspberry Pi 7 Inch Touch Screen Display With SmartiPi Case - Price
SGD$147
>
>
https://sg.cytron.io/c-raspberry-pi/c-raspberry-pi-display/c-display-for-rpi-4/p-raspberry-pi-7in-touch-screen-with-smartipi-case
>
> Do you think it is a good match?
>
> I want to use my Raspberry Pi like a regular laptop or desktop
> computer. Would a 7 inch touch screen display be too small for my use
> case? I don't want to strain my eyes looking at a small display.
> However, if I get a 10 inch touch screen display, I can't find one
> with a supporting base. I can't find a 10 inch touch screen display
> with a supporting base which could allow the screen to stand
> vertically.
>
> Finally, does your Linux distribution support Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
> GB? Can I do 4K Ultra HD video editing on the Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
> GB? Like adding watermarks, and cutting away unwanted 4K scenes. Is
> there a good 4K video editing software for Linux?
>
> I am looking forward to your reply.
>
> Thank you very much.

Hello,
It's my guess that a Raspberry Pi is not a good platform for your video
editing and a 7" screen is like a large cell phone which would be insanely
difficult to do editing on in my opinion, so at the level of the hardware I
wouldn't personally be a consumer of this sort of system.

As for Gentoo on a system like this it would likely, after lots of
optimization, give you great results but personally I wouldn't start there.
I'd use some flavor of Ubuntu to evaluate performance and then, if you're
not quite getting what you believe it best results then look at Gentoo.
However Gentoo compiling on a little machine like this would probably be a
24 hour per day proposition for a video editing box meaning all you would
ever be doing with Gentoo is building code. Remember that with Gentoo if
you don't keep it completely up to date then after a few months you start
to have dependency failures that take more time to fix than years left in
your life. For a Raspberry Pi you'll want some other big machine set up as
a cross compiler so you just load binary onto the little machine. If you
don't already have that hardware then you're looking at a lot more money.

My input: buy a laptop.

HTH,
Mark

Re: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021 [ In reply to ]

antlists at youngman

May 10, 2021, 12:15 AM

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On 09/05/21 09:29, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Finally, does your Linux distribution support Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
> GB? Can I do 4K Ultra HD video editing on the Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8
> GB? Like adding watermarks, and cutting away unwanted 4K scenes. Is
> there a good 4K video editing software for Linux?

Actually, for video editing, I would at least look at buying a cheaper
PC, and a couple of high-end graphics cards.

Make sure that the software you choose (including linux) can off-load
video operations to the graphics cards, they will provide much better
"bang for your buck" than ram and cpu, in that arena at least ...

Cheers,
Wol

Re: I am thinking of buying Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 8GB with 7 or 10 inch touch screen display in June 2021 [ In reply to ]

peter at prh

May 10, 2021, 8:40 AM

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On Sunday, 9 May 2021 22:53:17 BST Michael Jones wrote:
> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 4:29 PM Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de>
>
> wrote:
> > The Raspberry Pi image (stage3) seems to be unmaintained so far:
> > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#gentoo-on-rpi3-64bit
>
> There's a maintained image for 64bit raspberry pi's with this project:
> https://github.com/GenPi64

Pity it doesn't mention the Pi 400.

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Regards,
Peter.

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