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Am Wed, 22 Jul 2020 10:13:22 +0200 (CEST)
schrieb mad.scientist.at.large@tutanota.com:

> Are there any SAS drive controller cards that go in a PCI slot (Not PCI
> express).  I suspect it's a silly question but I'd like to find one.

I don't know any. But if you're /that/ desperate: there are adapters that
connect low-profile PCIe cards to PCI slots. The following is just an
example, there are certainly lots of manufacturers building stuff like
that:
https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Slot-Extension/PCI-to-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card~PCI1PEX1

Don't know if something like that would help you, though.


cu
Gerrit

Am Wed, 22 Jul 2020 10:43:39 +0200
schrieb Gerrit Kühn <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de>:

> > Are there any SAS drive controller cards that go in a PCI slot (Not PCI
> > express).  I suspect it's a silly question but I'd like to find one.

> I don't know any.

Looking around, I just found two (old) PCI-X based models. If I remember
correctly, PCI-X cards should work in PCI slots (given there is enough
physical place to fit them).
ICP Vortex 9085LI, PCI-X (2216800-R)
LSI Logic SAS 3442X-R, SAS, PCI-X (LSI00164)

Don't know if you can still buy these anywhere (2nd hand maybe?). Be
warned that the LSI one has a Broadcom SAS1068E chipset which afaicr is
known to be limited to 2TB drives.


cu
Gerrit

On 22 July 2020 10:43:39 CEST, "Gerrit Kühn" <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> wrote:
>Am Wed, 22 Jul 2020 10:13:22 +0200 (CEST)
>schrieb mad.scientist.at.large@tutanota.com:
>
>> Are there any SAS drive controller cards that go in a PCI slot (Not
>PCI
>> express).  I suspect it's a silly question but I'd like to find one.
>
>I don't know any. But if you're /that/ desperate: there are adapters
>that
>connect low-profile PCIe cards to PCI slots. The following is just an
>example, there are certainly lots of manufacturers building stuff like
>that:
>https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Slot-Extension/PCI-to-PCI-Express-Adapter-Card~PCI1PEX1
>
>Don't know if something like that would help you, though.
>
>
>cu
> Gerrit

I doubt you'll get much bandwidth through that, even if you do get it to work with a SAS card.

I wouldn't bother with SAS drives if it meant working with these limitations.

Current SAS3 supports 12Gbps per port (mine have 4 ports each). PCI slots don't support anywhere near that bandwidth.

I would recommend upgrading to a more recent mainboard or just using SATA.

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On 22 July 2020 10:53:57 CEST, "Gerrit Kühn" <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de> wrote:
>Am Wed, 22 Jul 2020 10:43:39 +0200
>schrieb Gerrit Kühn <gerrit.kuehn@aei.mpg.de>:
>
>> > Are there any SAS drive controller cards that go in a PCI slot (Not
>PCI
>> > express).  I suspect it's a silly question but I'd like to find
>one.
>
>> I don't know any.
>
>Looking around, I just found two (old) PCI-X based models. If I
>remember
>correctly, PCI-X cards should work in PCI slots (given there is enough
>physical place to fit them).
>ICP Vortex 9085LI, PCI-X (2216800-R)
>LSI Logic SAS 3442X-R, SAS, PCI-X (LSI00164)
>
>Don't know if you can still buy these anywhere (2nd hand maybe?). Be
>warned that the LSI one has a Broadcom SAS1068E chipset which afaicr is
>known to be limited to 2TB drives.
>
>
>cu
> Gerrit

Not all PCI-X cards work in normal PCI slots. I had 1 of those and it would only work in the PCI-X slot I had at the time. Considering how rare those cards and supporting mainboards were even back then, I wouldn't trust compatibility promises too much.

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Am Wed, 22 Jul 2020 11:01:47 +0200
schrieb "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>:

> I would recommend upgrading to a more recent mainboard or just using
> SATA.

Yeah, sure, but the OP wrote:

"I suspect it's a silly question but I'd like to find one."


cu
Gerrit