Hi, everyone.
I'd like to be more proactive in avoiding the mess like Python 3.6->3.7
switch were. For this reason, I think it would be better to set
and publish some early deadlines. Even if we aren't going to strictly
keep to them, it would help people realize how much time there is left
to finish the preparations.
Python 3.6?3.7 migration
========================
We've already switched the profiles but there are still some unmigrated
packages. We will continue either migrating them or last riting if
migration seems unlikely to happen. Nevertheless, it is wortwhile to
set some final deadlines. My proposal is:
2020-08-01 Python 3.7 migration deadline
After this date, we lastrite all remaining packages that haven't been
ported. This gives people roughly two months, with a ping one month
from now.
2020-09-15 Python 3.6 target removal
As usual, the interpreter will be kept a bit longer, then moved to
::python. This accounts for some extra time if people decide to
recover last rited packages last minute.
Python 3.7?3.8 migration
========================
The interpreter is stable but there's still lot of migration work to be
done. Good news is that because of the delay with 3.7, many packages
are getting 3.7+3.8 or even 3.7+3.8+3.9 simultaneously, so there will be
less work in the future.
2020-07-01 Python 3.8 target stable-unmasking goal
This is not really a deadline but I'd like to aim for resolving
depgraph issues and stabilizing everything needed to unmask python3_7
target on stable. Initial set of stablereqs was filed already,
and we'll be unmasking the target as soon as the depgraph is clean.
2020-09-01 Python 3.8 migration warning
At this point we tell people it's about time to start actively
updating their packages.
2020-12-01 Python 3.8 migration deadline
We lastrite all the unmigrated packages.
2021-01-15 Python 3.7 target removal
As above.
Python 2.7 removal
==================
I would like to continue removing py2.7 from packages where possible,
and slowly lastriting where clearly impossible. However,
for the remaining packages I'd like to set a hard deadline.
2021-01-01 Final Python 2.7 deadline
That's one year after upstream's EOL. At this point, we last rite
all the remaining py2.7 packages.
2021-02-15 Python 2.7 target removal
All packages relying on the target are removed. The interpreter
stays for as long as we need it.
General goal
============
As a general goal, I'd like to set timelines like this once we decide
that the next interpreter goes stable. The exact lengths are highly
dependent on properties of the next target. For example, I suspect
Python 3.9 will be easier for us; so far my testing has shown issues
that are rather easy to solve.
Combined timeline
=================
From the above dates:
2.7 3.6 3.7 3.8
2020-07-01 | | | u py3.8 target unmasked
| | | |
2020-08-01 | m | | py3.6 pkg last rites
| | | |
2020-09-01 | | | w py3.7?3.8 migr. warning
2020-09-15 | x | | py3.6 pkg removal
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
2020-12-01 | m | py3.7 pkg last rites
| | |
2021-01-01 m | | py2.7 pkg last rites
2021-01-15 | x | py3.7 pkg removal
| |
2021-02-15 x | py2.7 pkg removal
v
WDYT?
--
Best regards,
Micha? Górny
I'd like to be more proactive in avoiding the mess like Python 3.6->3.7
switch were. For this reason, I think it would be better to set
and publish some early deadlines. Even if we aren't going to strictly
keep to them, it would help people realize how much time there is left
to finish the preparations.
Python 3.6?3.7 migration
========================
We've already switched the profiles but there are still some unmigrated
packages. We will continue either migrating them or last riting if
migration seems unlikely to happen. Nevertheless, it is wortwhile to
set some final deadlines. My proposal is:
2020-08-01 Python 3.7 migration deadline
After this date, we lastrite all remaining packages that haven't been
ported. This gives people roughly two months, with a ping one month
from now.
2020-09-15 Python 3.6 target removal
As usual, the interpreter will be kept a bit longer, then moved to
::python. This accounts for some extra time if people decide to
recover last rited packages last minute.
Python 3.7?3.8 migration
========================
The interpreter is stable but there's still lot of migration work to be
done. Good news is that because of the delay with 3.7, many packages
are getting 3.7+3.8 or even 3.7+3.8+3.9 simultaneously, so there will be
less work in the future.
2020-07-01 Python 3.8 target stable-unmasking goal
This is not really a deadline but I'd like to aim for resolving
depgraph issues and stabilizing everything needed to unmask python3_7
target on stable. Initial set of stablereqs was filed already,
and we'll be unmasking the target as soon as the depgraph is clean.
2020-09-01 Python 3.8 migration warning
At this point we tell people it's about time to start actively
updating their packages.
2020-12-01 Python 3.8 migration deadline
We lastrite all the unmigrated packages.
2021-01-15 Python 3.7 target removal
As above.
Python 2.7 removal
==================
I would like to continue removing py2.7 from packages where possible,
and slowly lastriting where clearly impossible. However,
for the remaining packages I'd like to set a hard deadline.
2021-01-01 Final Python 2.7 deadline
That's one year after upstream's EOL. At this point, we last rite
all the remaining py2.7 packages.
2021-02-15 Python 2.7 target removal
All packages relying on the target are removed. The interpreter
stays for as long as we need it.
General goal
============
As a general goal, I'd like to set timelines like this once we decide
that the next interpreter goes stable. The exact lengths are highly
dependent on properties of the next target. For example, I suspect
Python 3.9 will be easier for us; so far my testing has shown issues
that are rather easy to solve.
Combined timeline
=================
From the above dates:
2.7 3.6 3.7 3.8
2020-07-01 | | | u py3.8 target unmasked
| | | |
2020-08-01 | m | | py3.6 pkg last rites
| | | |
2020-09-01 | | | w py3.7?3.8 migr. warning
2020-09-15 | x | | py3.6 pkg removal
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
2020-12-01 | m | py3.7 pkg last rites
| | |
2021-01-01 m | | py2.7 pkg last rites
2021-01-15 | x | py3.7 pkg removal
| |
2021-02-15 x | py2.7 pkg removal
v
WDYT?
--
Best regards,
Micha? Górny