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IMAP issue with CONDSTORE
I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail for 18
years, since version 2.0.

I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
web client (IMP) I am using.

With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it updates
most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I close
and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.

I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was fine
for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but I'm
not sure what is needed.

Thanks,
Dave
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Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Hi Dave,

Thanks for being such a long time user of DBMail and congratulations on
18 years.

I'm successfully using DBMail 3.2.3 on FreeBSD, so not as up to date as
3.2.5.

I'm not familiar with CONDSTORE part of the code so will leave that to
Cosmin, but wanted to reassure you that DBMail is alive and well.

Regards,
Alan

On 19/03/2021 04:51, David Rebarchik wrote:
> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail for
> 18 years, since version 2.0.
>
> I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
> upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
> weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
> Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
> account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
> update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
> web client (IMP) I am using.
>
> With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
> due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
> IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
> device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it
> updates most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops
> updating, I close and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a
> while.
>
> I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
> efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was fine
> for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but
> I'm not sure what is needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail

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Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Hello Dave,

I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe even 20 years since the first install.
So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly).
But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.

Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in the list. Thank you!


Kind regards,
Bobby

Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:

> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail for 18
> years, since version 2.0.

> I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
> upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta. Everything was working for a few
> weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
> Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
> account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
> update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
> web client (IMP) I am using.

> With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
> due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
> IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
> device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it updates
> most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I close
> and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.

> I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
> efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working? It was fine
> for several weeks. I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but I'm
> not sure what is needed.

> Thanks,
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail





Best regards,
Bobby
dragon@alimex.biz
Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Hello Dave,

I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe even 20 years since the first install.
So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly).
But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.

Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in the list. Thank you!


Kind regards,
Bobby

Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:

> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail for 18
> years, since version 2.0.

> I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
> upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta. Everything was working for a few
> weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
> Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
> account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
> update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
> web client (IMP) I am using.

> With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
> due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
> IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
> device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it updates
> most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I close
> and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.

> I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
> efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working? It was fine
> for several weeks. I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but I'm
> not sure what is needed.

> Thanks,
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail





Best regards,
Bobby
dragon@alimex.biz
Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Bobby,

The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS support
in the newer version.  With 2.2 I was able to run things through
stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started defaulting to
STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused many of my users
trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So, I decided to upgrade
so STARTTLS would work.

Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling the
older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older libraries
and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while upgrading to
newer code was easier.

When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the
header conversion.  I recommend adding the entry "header_cache_readonly
= yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the needed header name values. On
my hardware with the number of messages I had it took over 4 months to
do the conversion. (2.6 million messages.) If I had put that line in, it
would have taken only a few weeks.

During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and dbmail3,
then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things changed in
dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same messages. This way all
my users could still use IMAP and when the conversion was done and
tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail server to the new, running
the new version, and there was only about half hour of downtime.

Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks after
I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic use of
DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported STARTTLS, but I
see that as optional and haven't opened that issue yet. I've also
noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a message, which is
tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP client is moving messages
to the server, it takes a LONG time, but this doesn't happen often.

I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to 3.2.

I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!

Thanks,
Dave

On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:
> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave,
>
> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe
> even 20 years since the first install.
> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade too,
> and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since a 2-3
> months (don't remember exactly).
> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.
>
> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in
> the list. Thank you!
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Bobby
>
> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:
>
> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail
> for 18
> > years, since version 2.0.
>
> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
> > web client (IMP) I am using.
>
> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it updates
> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I close
> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.
>
> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was fine
> > for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but I'm
> > not sure what is needed.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > _______________________________________________
> > DBmail mailing list
> *> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl <mailto:DBmail@lists.nfg.nl>
> > https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
> <https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Bobby
> dragon@alimex.biz <mailto:dragon@alimex.biz>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Bobby,

The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS support
in the newer version.  With 2.2 I was able to run things through
stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started defaulting to
STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused many of my users
trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So, I decided to upgrade
so STARTTLS would work.

Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling the
older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older libraries
and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while upgrading to
newer code was easier.

When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the
header conversion.  I recommend adding the entry "header_cache_readonly
= yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the needed header name values. On
my hardware with the number of messages I had it took over 4 months to
do the conversion. (2.6 million messages.) If I had put that line in, it
would have taken only a few weeks.

During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and dbmail3,
then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things changed in
dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same messages. This way all
my users could still use IMAP and when the conversion was done and
tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail server to the new, running
the new version, and there was only about half hour of downtime.

Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks after
I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic use of
DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported STARTTLS, but I
see that as optional and haven't opened that issue yet. I've also
noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a message, which is
tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP client is moving messages
to the server, it takes a LONG time, but this doesn't happen often.

I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to 3.2.

I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!

Thanks,
Dave

On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:
> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave,
>
> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe
> even 20 years since the first install.
> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade too,
> and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since a 2-3
> months (don't remember exactly).
> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.
>
> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in
> the list. Thank you!
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Bobby
>
> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:
>
> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail
> for 18
> > years, since version 2.0.
>
> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
> > web client (IMP) I am using.
>
> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it updates
> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I close
> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.
>
> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was fine
> > for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but I'm
> > not sure what is needed.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > _______________________________________________
> > DBmail mailing list
> *> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl <mailto:DBmail@lists.nfg.nl>
> > https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
> <https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
> Bobby
> dragon@alimex.biz <mailto:dragon@alimex.biz>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Hi,

Is this still an issue? A fix for MODSEQ related to CONDSTORE was pushed
a few days ago that should have resolved this one.

Kind regards,
Alan

On 03/04/2021 23:43, David Rebarchik wrote:
> Bobby,
>
> The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS
> support in the newer version.  With 2.2 I was able to run things
> through stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started
> defaulting to STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused many
> of my users trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So, I
> decided to upgrade so STARTTLS would work.
>
> Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling
> the older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older
> libraries and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while
> upgrading to newer code was easier.
>
> When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the
> header conversion.  I recommend adding the entry
> "header_cache_readonly = yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the needed
> header name values. On my hardware with the number of messages I had
> it took over 4 months to do the conversion. (2.6 million messages.) If
> I had put that line in, it would have taken only a few weeks.
>
> During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and dbmail3,
> then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things changed in
> dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same messages. This way
> all my users could still use IMAP and when the conversion was done and
> tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail server to the new,
> running the new version, and there was only about half hour of downtime.
>
> Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks
> after I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic
> use of DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported
> STARTTLS, but I see that as optional and haven't opened that issue
> yet. I've also noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a
> message, which is tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP client
> is moving messages to the server, it takes a LONG time, but this
> doesn't happen often.
>
> I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to 3.2.
>
> I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:
>> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave,
>>
>> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe
>> even 20 years since the first install.
>> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade too,
>> and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since a 2-3
>> months (don't remember exactly).
>> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.
>>
>> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in
>> the list. Thank you!
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Bobby
>>
>> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail
>> for 18
>> > years, since version 2.0.
>>
>> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
>> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
>> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates, while
>> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
>> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
>> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
>> > web client (IMP) I am using.
>>
>> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
>> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
>> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
>> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it
>> updates
>> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I
>> close
>> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.
>>
>> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to work
>> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was fine
>> > for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files, but
>> I'm
>> > not sure what is needed.
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Dave
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > DBmail mailing list
>> *> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl <mailto:DBmail@lists.nfg.nl>
>> > https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>> <https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bobby
>> dragon@alimex.biz <mailto:dragon@alimex.biz>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> DBmail mailing list
>> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
>> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> DBmail mailing list
> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Alan,

Thank you for the notice that a fix was pushed.  I just downloaded and
complied it. My initial testing shows it is fixed.  I've installed it on
my production server and will continue to watch. If there is anything
seeming wrong, I'll let you know.

Thank you very much for spending time on this project. I really love it.

Thanks,
Dave

On 4/29/2021 6:02 AM, Alan Hicks wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Is this still an issue? A fix for MODSEQ related to CONDSTORE was
> pushed a few days ago that should have resolved this one.
>
> Kind regards,
> Alan
>
> On 03/04/2021 23:43, David Rebarchik wrote:
>> Bobby,
>>
>> The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS
>> support in the newer version.  With 2.2 I was able to run things
>> through stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started
>> defaulting to STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused
>> many of my users trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So,
>> I decided to upgrade so STARTTLS would work.
>>
>> Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling
>> the older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older
>> libraries and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while
>> upgrading to newer code was easier.
>>
>> When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the
>> header conversion.  I recommend adding the entry
>> "header_cache_readonly = yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the
>> needed header name values. On my hardware with the number of messages
>> I had it took over 4 months to do the conversion. (2.6 million
>> messages.) If I had put that line in, it would have taken only a few
>> weeks.
>>
>> During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and
>> dbmail3, then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things
>> changed in dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same
>> messages. This way all my users could still use IMAP and when the
>> conversion was done and tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail
>> server to the new, running the new version, and there was only about
>> half hour of downtime.
>>
>> Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks
>> after I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic
>> use of DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported
>> STARTTLS, but I see that as optional and haven't opened that issue
>> yet. I've also noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a
>> message, which is tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP
>> client is moving messages to the server, it takes a LONG time, but
>> this doesn't happen often.
>>
>> I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to 3.2.
>>
>> I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>> On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:
>>> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave,
>>>
>>> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe
>>> even 20 years since the first install.
>>> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade
>>> too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since
>>> a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly).
>>> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.
>>>
>>> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided in
>>> the list. Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Bobby
>>>
>>> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using DBMail
>>> for 18
>>> > years, since version 2.0.
>>>
>>> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've recently
>>> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
>>> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates,
>>> while
>>> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out the
>>> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would never
>>> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the IMAP
>>> > web client (IMP) I am using.
>>>
>>> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it was
>>> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
>>> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the mobile
>>> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it
>>> updates
>>> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I
>>> close
>>> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.
>>>
>>> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to
>>> work
>>> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was fine
>>> > for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files,
>>> but I'm
>>> > not sure what is needed.
>>>
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Dave
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > DBmail mailing list
>>> *> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl <mailto:DBmail@lists.nfg.nl>
>>> > https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>>> <https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bobby
>>> dragon@alimex.biz <mailto:dragon@alimex.biz>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> DBmail mailing list
>>> DBmail@lists.nfg.nl
>>> https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Alan,

After one day it isn't working. Same symptom as before. I've not put my
"modified" version back yet, but probably will soon.

When I tested it right after installing the fix, it seemed to work. I
sent several test messages and they appeared on the android phone and in
Thunderbird as expected. When I "read" them, that updated between
devices as expected. But, I noticed at the end of the day that my phone
stopped working.

The symptom is that my cellphone (using Samsung Mail) stops updating.
The only way I've gotten it to update is to remove the mail account and
re-add it.  But that then only downloads the mail at that point.  It
still doesn't update.  I've not figured out why exactly, but if I modify
the advertised features of the IMAP server, it works.  I use Thunderbird
on my Windows desktop and that has always mostly worked, with my change
in the advertised features it sometimes stops updating, but I can close
and reopen it and it starts working again.

I'm willing to test and provide log files. Just tell me what you need.

Thank you for your help.

Thanks,
Dave

On 4/29/2021 9:48 AM, David Rebarchik wrote:
> Alan,
>
> Thank you for the notice that a fix was pushed.  I just downloaded and
> complied it. My initial testing shows it is fixed.  I've installed it
> on my production server and will continue to watch. If there is
> anything seeming wrong, I'll let you know.
>
> Thank you very much for spending time on this project. I really love it.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On 4/29/2021 6:02 AM, Alan Hicks wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is this still an issue? A fix for MODSEQ related to CONDSTORE was
>> pushed a few days ago that should have resolved this one.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Alan
>>
>> On 03/04/2021 23:43, David Rebarchik wrote:
>>> Bobby,
>>>
>>> The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS
>>> support in the newer version.  With 2.2 I was able to run things
>>> through stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started
>>> defaulting to STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused
>>> many of my users trouble setting up accounts on their computers. So,
>>> I decided to upgrade so STARTTLS would work.
>>>
>>> Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling
>>> the older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older
>>> libraries and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while
>>> upgrading to newer code was easier.
>>>
>>> When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the
>>> header conversion.  I recommend adding the entry
>>> "header_cache_readonly = yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the
>>> needed header name values. On my hardware with the number of
>>> messages I had it took over 4 months to do the conversion. (2.6
>>> million messages.) If I had put that line in, it would have taken
>>> only a few weeks.
>>>
>>> During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and
>>> dbmail3, then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things
>>> changed in dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same
>>> messages. This way all my users could still use IMAP and when the
>>> conversion was done and tested, I just moved the IP from my old mail
>>> server to the new, running the new version, and there was only about
>>> half hour of downtime.
>>>
>>> Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks
>>> after I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic
>>> use of DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported
>>> STARTTLS, but I see that as optional and haven't opened that issue
>>> yet. I've also noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a
>>> message, which is tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP
>>> client is moving messages to the server, it takes a LONG time, but
>>> this doesn't happen often.
>>>
>>> I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to
>>> 3.2.
>>>
>>> I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:
>>>> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave,
>>>>
>>>> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been maybe
>>>> even 20 years since the first install.
>>>> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade
>>>> too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile since
>>>> a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly).
>>>> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.
>>>>
>>>> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided
>>>> in the list. Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Bobby
>>>>
>>>> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using
>>>> DBMail for 18
>>>> > years, since version 2.0.
>>>>
>>>> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've
>>>> recently
>>>> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
>>>> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates,
>>>> while
>>>> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear out
>>>> the
>>>> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would
>>>> never
>>>> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the
>>>> IMAP
>>>> > web client (IMP) I am using.
>>>>
>>>> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that it
>>>> was
>>>> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
>>>> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the
>>>> mobile
>>>> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it
>>>> updates
>>>> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating, I
>>>> close
>>>> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.
>>>>
>>>> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it to
>>>> work
>>>> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was
>>>> fine
>>>> > for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files,
>>>> but I'm
>>>> > not sure what is needed.
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> > Dave
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Bobby
>>>> dragon@alimex.biz <mailto:dragon@alimex.biz>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: IMAP issue with CONDSTORE [ In reply to ]
Dave,

Thanks for testing and persevering. Unless there are logs from Samsung
Mail, then dbmail logs are probably the most useful. If you turn up
debugging in dbmail.conf file_logging_levels you can see what's
happening, level 511 might be too much but should show what happened
before it froze.

Also what database and version are you using.

Regards,
Alan

On 30/04/2021 10:05, David Rebarchik wrote:
> Alan,
>
> After one day it isn't working. Same symptom as before. I've not put
> my "modified" version back yet, but probably will soon.
>
> When I tested it right after installing the fix, it seemed to work. I
> sent several test messages and they appeared on the android phone and
> in Thunderbird as expected. When I "read" them, that updated between
> devices as expected. But, I noticed at the end of the day that my
> phone stopped working.
>
> The symptom is that my cellphone (using Samsung Mail) stops updating.
> The only way I've gotten it to update is to remove the mail account
> and re-add it.  But that then only downloads the mail at that point. 
> It still doesn't update.  I've not figured out why exactly, but if I
> modify the advertised features of the IMAP server, it works.  I use
> Thunderbird on my Windows desktop and that has always mostly worked,
> with my change in the advertised features it sometimes stops updating,
> but I can close and reopen it and it starts working again.
>
> I'm willing to test and provide log files. Just tell me what you need.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> On 4/29/2021 9:48 AM, David Rebarchik wrote:
>> Alan,
>>
>> Thank you for the notice that a fix was pushed.  I just downloaded
>> and complied it. My initial testing shows it is fixed.  I've
>> installed it on my production server and will continue to watch. If
>> there is anything seeming wrong, I'll let you know.
>>
>> Thank you very much for spending time on this project. I really love it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>> On 4/29/2021 6:02 AM, Alan Hicks wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is this still an issue? A fix for MODSEQ related to CONDSTORE was
>>> pushed a few days ago that should have resolved this one.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On 03/04/2021 23:43, David Rebarchik wrote:
>>>> Bobby,
>>>>
>>>> The reason for finally upgrading to a newer version was the TLS
>>>> support in the newer version.  With 2.2 I was able to run things
>>>> through stunnel, but many clients, Outlook being one, started
>>>> defaulting to STARTTLS instead of using the SSL port. This caused
>>>> many of my users trouble setting up accounts on their computers.
>>>> So, I decided to upgrade so STARTTLS would work.
>>>>
>>>> Another reason for upgrading is that I has having trouble compiling
>>>> the older 2.2 version on a newer OS. The older code needed older
>>>> libraries and it was getting hard to get them all to work, while
>>>> upgrading to newer code was easier.
>>>>
>>>> When doing the upgrade, the most amount of time was spent doing the
>>>> header conversion.  I recommend adding the entry
>>>> "header_cache_readonly = yes" to dbmail.conf after you have the
>>>> needed header name values. On my hardware with the number of
>>>> messages I had it took over 4 months to do the conversion. (2.6
>>>> million messages.) If I had put that line in, it would have taken
>>>> only a few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> During the conversion I had two databases setup, dbmail22 and
>>>> dbmail3, then added triggers to insert and delete rows when things
>>>> changed in dbmail22 so the dbmail3 database had all the same
>>>> messages. This way all my users could still use IMAP and when the
>>>> conversion was done and tested, I just moved the IP from my old
>>>> mail server to the new, running the new version, and there was only
>>>> about half hour of downtime.
>>>>
>>>> Other than this issue with CONDSTORE, which happened several weeks
>>>> after I started using 3.2, I have had little trouble with the basic
>>>> use of DBMail 3.2. I wish that dbmail-timsieved also supported
>>>> STARTTLS, but I see that as optional and haven't opened that issue
>>>> yet. I've also noticed that it takes 3 to 5 seconds to insert a
>>>> message, which is tolerable for mail delivery, but when an IMAP
>>>> client is moving messages to the server, it takes a LONG time, but
>>>> this doesn't happen often.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that some of these things help when you decide to upgrade to
>>>> 3.2.
>>>>
>>>> I still need help getting CONDSTORE working again!!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On 4/2/2021 10:46 AM, Bobby wrote:
>>>>> Re: [Dbmail] IMAP issue with CONDSTORE Hello Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still able to use DBMail 2.2.18 and I must say it's been
>>>>> maybe even 20 years since the first install.
>>>>> So, thank you for sharing this info, as I am planning an upgrade
>>>>> too, and because I have a similar problem with Outlook Mobile
>>>>> since a 2-3 months (don't remember exactly).
>>>>> But I am not sure if the reason is not TLS related.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please share details once you know more, if they are not provided
>>>>> in the list. Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Bobby
>>>>>
>>>>> Friday, March 19, 2021, 7:51:00 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *> I'm hoping that this list is still active. I've been using
>>>>> DBMail for 18
>>>>> > years, since version 2.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> > I've had very little issues with it over the years, but I've
>>>>> recently
>>>>> > upgraded from 2.2 to 3.2.5-beta.  Everything was working for a few
>>>>> > weeks, until last Friday. My cell phone stopped getting updates,
>>>>> while
>>>>> > Thunderbird was still working fine. I found that when I clear
>>>>> out the
>>>>> > account and re-add it I was able to download mail, but it would
>>>>> never
>>>>> > update again after that. Similar behavior was happening with the
>>>>> IMAP
>>>>> > web client (IMP) I am using.
>>>>>
>>>>> > With a lot of digging through detailed log files, I found that
>>>>> it was
>>>>> > due to CONDSTORE, so I removed it from the line in dbmail.h #define
>>>>> > IMAP_CAPABILITY_STRING. After that both the web client and the
>>>>> mobile
>>>>> > device seem to "work" but now Thunderbird is acting strange, it
>>>>> updates
>>>>> > most of the time, but not all the time. When it stops updating,
>>>>> I close
>>>>> > and re-open it, then it refreshes and works for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> > I don't want to leave the system crippled like this. I want it
>>>>> to work
>>>>> > efficiently. What could cause CONDSTORE to stop working?  It was
>>>>> fine
>>>>> > for several weeks.  I'm willing to do tests and post log files,
>>>>> but I'm
>>>>> > not sure what is needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > Dave
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > DBmail mailing list
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>>>>> > https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail
>>>>> <https://lists.nfg.nl/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dbmail>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Bobby
>>>>> dragon@alimex.biz <mailto:dragon@alimex.biz>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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