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Hello Lisa,

sure: The Catalyst 9300-48UXM has Multigigabit Ports (12 of them up to 10 Gig, 36 of them up the 2.5 Gig). Multigigabit Ports are from 100 Mbit/s upwards, i.e., they do not support 10 Mbit/s any more. One of ours:

#show int status

Port Name Status Vlan Duplex Speed Type
Tw1/0/1 ....................... connected trunk a-full a-1000 100/1000/2.5GBaseTX
Tw1/0/2 ....................... connected trunk a-full a-1000 100/1000/2.5GBaseTX

[...]

Te1/0/37 ............... notconnect 32 auto auto 100/1000/2.5G/5G/10GBaseTX
Te1/0/38 ............... disabled 3028 auto auto 100/1000/2.5G/5G/10GBaseTX
Te1/0/39 ............... disabled 3028 auto auto 100/1000/2.5G/5G/10GBaseTX

[...]

Te1/0/47 ................ connected 3028 a-full a-5000 100/1000/2.5G/5G/10GBaseTX
Te1/0/48 ................ connected 3028 a-full a-5000 100/1000/2.5G/5G/10GBaseTX

c9300-...-1(config)#interf tw1/0/1
c9300-...-1(config-if)#speed ?
100 Force 100 Mbps operation
1000 Force 1000 Mbps operation
2500 Force 2500 Mbps operation
auto Enable AUTO speed configuration

It's kinda, sorta clearly indicated, but I'll admit it took me a while to figure that out myself when we ran into it quite a while ago.


Easiest workaround I can think of, in case you want to use the switchports as simple access ports (without VLAN tags / trunk ports and the like) and without PoE, might be to get a bunch of really cheap, small and stupid 4- oder 5-ports copper 100 Mbit or Gigabit switches and put them inbetween, so you basically will adapt the 10 Mbit/s of the ATA186 to the "at least 100 Mbit/s" of the 48UXM model. There's that 25 euro class of switches like the Netgear GS105 (not making any product recommendations here) and probably many more, though such extremely simple switches are getting more difficult to find these days I think. (Not sure, does the ATA186 need PoE or does it have a power supply of its own? Sorry I'm clueless.)

I should add that I have not been in exactly this situation myself – we've always been able to find a solution by exchanging the 9300 for a different model or find some unused ports on some other switch nearby –, so I haven't tried all this and I'm unsure whether my idea will work for you.

But I hope this helps somehow.


Cheers

Christoph

--
viethen@itc.rwth-aachen.de

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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
Sent: 27 January 2022 21:40:06
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question

We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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Hello,



That’s not an IOS limitation. The 9300-48UXM only supports 100mbps and above. There isn’t any support for 10mbps on those switches. Here’s a link to the data sheet:



https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-9300-series-switches/nb-06-cat9300-ser-data-sheet-cte-en.html"]https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/switches/catalyst-9300-series-switches/nb-06-cat9300-ser-data-sheet-cte-en.html



Scroll down to here:







I’m sorry to be the bearer of bad news.



Thanks,



James

From: Lisa Notarianni
Sent: 27 January 2022 20:51
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question



We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.



We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.



We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL



I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.



We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.



Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution &#128522;



Lisa Notarianni

University of Scranton

Telecommunications Engineer

Infrastructure Services

800 Linden St.

Scranton PA 18510

570.941.4325

You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b

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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

Lisa
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C06be4c84b9a54416b9c708d9e1dba801%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789155813933139%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FajmNXc5Si7xans1z035EEm0LfQlsFktEEebwU4nhbE%3D&reserved=0>
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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Hello,



That example only applies to GigabitEthernet ports. The UXM switches don’t have GigabitEthernet ports. They have 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet ports and 10 Gigabit Ethernet ports.



Thanks,



James



From: Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: 27 January 2022 21:38
To: Lisa Notarianni
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question





You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.



https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b"]https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b

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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.



We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.



We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL



I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.



We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.



Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution &#128522;



Lisa Notarianni

University of Scranton

Telecommunications Engineer

Infrastructure Services

800 Linden St.

Scranton PA 18510

570.941.4325

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Ah. Neat. I didn’t catch that. We just bought a bunch of switches. I’ll have to ask about which model.



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Hello,

That example only applies to GigabitEthernet ports. The UXM switches don’t have GigabitEthernet ports. They have 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet ports and 10 Gigabit Ethernet ports.

Thanks,

James

From: Lelio Fulgenzi<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Sent: 27 January 2022 21:38
To: Lisa Notarianni<mailto:lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

_______________________________________________
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Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get them working until you can replace them.

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Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

Lisa
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C06be4c84b9a54416b9c708d9e1dba801%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789155813933139%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FajmNXc5Si7xans1z035EEm0LfQlsFktEEebwU4nhbE%3D&reserved=0>
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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Hello,

There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were
refreshed to use for the ATAs.

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

>
> Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it
> between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get
> them working until you can replace them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph.
> Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to
> IThelp@uoguelph.ca
>
> Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and
> replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option
> according to our network engineer.
>
>
>
> Lisa
>
> *From:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
> *To:* Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question
>
>
>
>
>
> You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a
> valid option.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C06be4c84b9a54416b9c708d9e1dba801%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789155813933139%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=%2FajmNXc5Si7xans1z035EEm0LfQlsFktEEebwU4nhbE%3D&reserved=0>
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of
> Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
> sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails
> to IThelp@uoguelph.ca
>
>
>
> We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected
> issue.
>
>
>
> We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for
> replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the
> switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.
>
>
>
> We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS
> version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04
> CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
>
> However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS
> version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5
> CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
>
>
>
> I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if
> anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.
>
>
>
> We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half
> duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to
> 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured
> at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.
>
>
>
> Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????
>
>
>
> *Lisa Notarianni*
>
> University of Scranton
>
> Telecommunications Engineer
>
> Infrastructure Services
>
> 800 Linden St.
>
> Scranton PA 18510
>
> 570.941.4325
>
>
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All good ideas. Thanks again!!

On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:13 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hello,

There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were refreshed to use for the ATAs.

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get them working until you can replace them.

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Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

Lisa
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C0ba958685f444c7a7c4608d9e1e22682%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789184259613443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dPuzKYTZWv7Tg1lnwaK47lqsRx4gG3zPtN%2BBqyGa6Uk%3D&reserved=0>
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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Please let us know what your final solution is. Whether one switch with one ATA, or 100/100. It’s good to know.

Lelio

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All good ideas. Thanks again!!

On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:13 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hello,

There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were refreshed to use for the ATAs.

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get them working until you can replace them.

Sent from my iPhone

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Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

Lisa
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu<mailto:lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C0ba958685f444c7a7c4608d9e1e22682%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789184259613443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dPuzKYTZWv7Tg1lnwaK47lqsRx4gG3zPtN%2BBqyGa6Uk%3D&reserved=0>
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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The MikroTik GPEN21 can take 802.3af PoE and gigabit input, and will
negotiate 10/100/1000 on the other port. It is basically a 3 port PoE
powered switch where one of the ports is an SFP (and you would ignore this
third port in this application).

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 18:15 Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Please let us know what your final solution is. Whether one switch with
> one ATA, or 100/100. It’s good to know.
>
> Lelio
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph.
> Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
> know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to
> IThelp@uoguelph.ca
>
> All good ideas. Thanks again!!
>
> On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:13 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hello,
>
> There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were
> refreshed to use for the ATAs.
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it
>> between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get
>> them working until you can replace them.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Lisa Notarianni <
>> lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph.
>> Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and
>> know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to
>> IThelp@uoguelph.ca
>>
>> Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and
>> replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option
>> according to our network engineer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lisa
>>
>> *From:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
>> *To:* Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
>> *Cc:* cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a
>> valid option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C0ba958685f444c7a7c4608d9e1e22682%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789184259613443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dPuzKYTZWv7Tg1lnwaK47lqsRx4gG3zPtN%2BBqyGa6Uk%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Lisa Notarianni <
>> lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of the University of
>> Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the
>> sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails
>> to IThelp@uoguelph.ca
>>
>>
>>
>> We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for
>> replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the
>> switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.
>>
>>
>>
>> We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS
>> version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04
>> CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
>>
>> However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS
>> version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5
>> CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
>>
>>
>>
>> I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if
>> anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.
>>
>>
>>
>> We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half
>> duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to
>> 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured
>> at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/800+Linden+St.+%0D%0A+Scranton+PA+18510?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> *Lisa Notarianni*
>>
>> University of Scranton
>>
>> Telecommunications Engineer
>>
>> Infrastructure Services
>>
>> 800 Linden St.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/800+Linden+St.+%0D%0A+Scranton+PA+18510?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> Scranton PA 18510
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/800+Linden+St.+%0D%0A+Scranton+PA+18510?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> 570.941.4325
>>
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So, it’s POE powered itself and can send along POE as well? Without an AC adapter ?

‘Cause that would be sweet.

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The MikroTik GPEN21 can take 802.3af PoE and gigabit input, and will negotiate 10/100/1000 on the other port. It is basically a 3 port PoE powered switch where one of the ports is an SFP (and you would ignore this third port in this application).

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 18:15 Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Please let us know what your final solution is. Whether one switch with one ATA, or 100/100. It’s good to know.

Lelio

Sent from my iPhone

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All good ideas. Thanks again!!

On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:13 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com<mailto:james.buchanan2@gmail.com>> wrote:

?
Hello,

There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were refreshed to use for the ATAs.

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get them working until you can replace them.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu<mailto:lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>> wrote:

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Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

Lisa
From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu<mailto:lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7C0ba958685f444c7a7c4608d9e1e22682%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789184259613443%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=dPuzKYTZWv7Tg1lnwaK47lqsRx4gG3zPtN%2BBqyGa6Uk%3D&reserved=0>
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

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Yes, that's correct. You can also provide 48V using an AC adapter
instead of PoE input, if you're into that. But of course, that
presumably won't be in play for an ATA 186.

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On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 7:30 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
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> So, it’s POE powered itself and can send along POE as well? Without an AC adapter ?
>
> ‘Cause that would be sweet.
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> On Jan 27, 2022, at 7:24 PM, Hunter Fuller <hf0002@uah.edu> wrote:
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> The MikroTik GPEN21 can take 802.3af PoE and gigabit input, and will negotiate 10/100/1000 on the other port. It is basically a 3 port PoE powered switch where one of the ports is an SFP (and you would ignore this third port in this application).
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 18:15 Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Please let us know what your final solution is. Whether one switch with one ATA, or 100/100. It’s good to know.
>>
>> Lelio
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:
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>> All good ideas. Thanks again!!
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:13 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Hello,
>>
>> There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were refreshed to use for the ATAs.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get them working until you can replace them.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp@uoguelph.ca
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>>> Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>> From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
>>> To: Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
>>> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp@uoguelph.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
>>>
>>> However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lisa Notarianni
>>>
>>> University of Scranton
>>>
>>> Telecommunications Engineer
>>>
>>> Infrastructure Services
>>>
>>> 800 Linden St.
>>>
>>> Scranton PA 18510
>>>
>>> 570.941.4325
>>>
>>>
>>>
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if money is a big problem. but you could get some ATA187s for about $20 apiece or ATA190s
On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 02:49:53 PM MST, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:


Thank you all for your quick responses.  We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs.  We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

 

Lisa

From: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2022 4:26 PM
To: Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question

 

 

You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option. 

 

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b

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On Jan 27, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu> wrote:



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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

 

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches.  This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

 

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version:                              1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version:                                         1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

 

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

 

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex.  Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff  the ATA will not register.  The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

 

Is this not possible?  I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution????

 

Lisa Notarianni

University of Scranton

Telecommunications Engineer

Infrastructure Services

800 Linden St.

Scranton PA 18510

570.941.4325

 

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Hello All-

Just following up on my question and your responses (which I greatly appreciated so many).

We decided to bite the bullet and purchase ATA-192s. However, we found that as we investigate building by building, many endpoint/devices are no longer used so the quantity of ATAs needed is almost half of what we anticipated.

Basically someone removed the fax machine or no longer uses a cordless phone or whatever it was at the end of that connection and they never informed us over the years, as staff have come and gone, that the use of these devices greatly changed.

Thanks again,

Lisa

On Jan 27, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

? Please let us know what your final solution is. Whether one switch with one ATA, or 100/100. It’s good to know.

Lelio

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All good ideas. Thanks again!!

On Jan 27, 2022, at 5:13 PM, James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com> wrote:

?
Hello,

There is also the option of keeping a few of the switches that were refreshed to use for the ATAs.

Thanks,

James

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 10:10 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Something to try is to get a cheap DLINK or Linksys switch and insert it between the new 9300uxm and the ata. It might give you some options to get them working until you can replace them.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:41 PM, Lisa Notarianni <lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu<mailto:lisa.notarianni@scranton.edu>> wrote:

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Thank you all for your quick responses. We will go beg for funding and replace the ATAs. We cannot set speed to 10 since it is not an option according to our network engineer.

Lisa
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] ATA 186 question


You might want to double check that. From this, 17.3, it shows 10 is a valid option.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst9300/software/release/17-3/configuration_guide/int_hw/b_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg/configuring_interface_characteristics.html#task_uw1_3wc_g1b<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cisco.com%2Fc%2Fen%2Fus%2Ftd%2Fdocs%2Fswitches%2Flan%2Fcatalyst9300%2Fsoftware%2Frelease%2F17-3%2Fconfiguration_guide%2Fint_hw%2Fb_173_int_and_hw_9300_cg%2Fconfiguring_interface_characteristics.html%23task_uw1_3wc_g1b&data=04%7C01%7Clisa.notarianni%40scranton.edu%7Cddff91e218c84fd6c4e608d9e1f22e0d%7Ca8edc49a41f14c699768a7f6d7c3b8c3%7C0%7C0%7C637789252553961239%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=cAcpVW%2FGfWd3QLYDu8Ol4NfcJzYiQaTjlpyQZ%2BiL160%3D&reserved=0>
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We just began Cisco switch upgrade to 9300s and ran into an unexpected issue.

We have many ATA 186s out there (about 100) and did not budget for replacement as we were gratefully approved for the massive overhaul of the switches. This ended up being an unforeseen glitch.

We cannot get the ATA 186s to work on this switch with this IOS version: 1 65 C9300-48UXM 17.03.04 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL
However, the 186s are working on this switch with this IOS version: 1 64 C9300-48P 16.9.5 CAT9K_IOSXE INSTALL

I know it is not an apples to apples comparison but I was wondering if anyone had a workaround for the newer model/IOS.

We believe the problem is that the ATA186s are hard coded at 10Mbps/half duplex. Even if we change the switch port parameter from 0x00000000 to 0x000000ff the ATA will not register. The switch port is also configured at duplex auto but the slowest we can make the port is 100Mbps.

Is this not possible? I am hoping you Cisco geniuses have a solution ????

Lisa Notarianni
University of Scranton
Telecommunications Engineer
Infrastructure Services
800 Linden St.
Scranton PA 18510
570.941.4325

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