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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert
Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!

I’m loathe to advise users to accept a certificate that’s flagged as bad for some reason, as that’s just bad security practice.

As I mentioned earlier, I’ve added:

<ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices>WEBEX</ServiceDiscoveryExcludedServices>

...to our jabber-config.xml, and we’re advising users to reset their Jabber client to apply it, but that’s bound to upset a few who’ll lose their chat history and contacts.

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 15:30, Johnson, Tim <johns10t@cmich.edu> wrote:
>
> I’ve heard from my help desk that they had a few users report the prompt for accepting a cert. Unfortunately, they gathered zero details for me and just had the users accept the cert…
>
> Good to know it’s not just us though.

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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this now, too.

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker <G.J.Parker@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvq73203

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Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Johnson, Tim <johns10t@cmich.edu>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this now, too.

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker <G.J.Parker@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
Ok. This all points to desktops not accepting root certificate updates from what I can tell.

I just checked with my contact and ask about this on our site and he said there is no blocking of root certs being downloaded.

I'm going to guess then that I'm ok.

I mean, I haven't heard anything yet either, so that's a good sign.

This can only get better when we move to 30 day certs, right?

ACME for the WIN

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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

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https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvq73203

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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Gary Parker
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2021 1:45 PM
To: Johnson, Tim <johns10t@cmich.edu>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this now, too.

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker <G.J.Parker@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense. They
reference adding some GoDaddy certs, but when you look at the URL they
reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.
See images below
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On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 3:48 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Ok. This all points to desktops not accepting root certificate updates
> from what I can tell.
>
> I just checked with my contact and ask about this on our site and he said
> there is no blocking of root certs being downloaded.
>
> I'm going to guess then that I'm ok.
>
> I mean, I haven't heard anything yet either, so that's a good sign.
>
> This can only get better when we move to 30 day certs, right?
>
> ACME for the WIN
>
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> Cert
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> https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvq73203
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Parker
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> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex
> Cert
>
> Quick follow-up: I’ve heard from another site (off-list) suffering this
> now, too.
>
> Gary
>
> > On 11 Nov 2021, at 16:13, Gary Parker <G.J.Parker@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Tim, likewise: glad it’s not just us!
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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(?)_/¯

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V <bvanbens@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense. They reference adding some GoDaddy certs, but when you look at the URL they reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work through that.


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Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(?)_/¯

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V <bvanbens@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense. They reference adding some GoDaddy certs, but when you look at the URL they reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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Re: [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert [ In reply to ]
Darn it. We've started seeing the alerts for some reason.

Can we just tell people to accept? Argh.


-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 8:45 AM
To: Gary Parker <G.J.Parker@lboro.ac.uk>; Brian V <bvanbens@gmail.com>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

(a) do this
(b) don't do this

Is my favourite part!

I remember when I first started, I had opened a case, then another, and got two very conflicting opinions from the TAC

(a) TAC suggests using the T train for voice gateways
(b) The TAC suggests staying away from T train for voice gateways

Or something like that.

When you're first starting out and have a crush on Cisco, it's very had to work through that.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Parker <G.J.Parker@lboro.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2021 5:24 AM
To: Brian V <bvanbens@gmail.com>
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>; Johnson, Tim <johns10t@cmich.edu>; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] [External] Jabber Users Prompted To Accept Webex Cert

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Yeah, I had a suspicion at one point that this might be to do with the telemetry (which we’re sending), but the only reference I can find to the servers used for this is in the "Feature Configuration for Cisco Jabber 12.8” doc where it states that clients connect to "metrics-a.wbx2.com” (also mentioning that you must install a GoDaddy root cert).

We’ve been sending telemetry for some time and have not had this problem before, and the cert the client is erroring on is idbroker.webex.com (with the IdenTrust root).

Fwiw, metrics-a.wbx2.com is a cname for ha-a-main.wbx2.com, which in turn is a cname for achm-main-ha-a-nlb-1d0e22049c746ef1.elb.us-east-2.amazonaws.com

metrics-a.wbx2.com *does* have a GoDaddy root cert, and a wildcard server cert.

What a mess!

That bug also says:

"b) Disable the telemetry call to Webex in the jabber-config xml”

…but then goes on to say:

"This error/popup is not related to Telemetry. Even if you disable Telemetry on Jabber certificate pop up will continue to show.”

¯\_(?)_/¯

Gary

> On 11 Nov 2021, at 22:57, Brian V <bvanbens@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Part of the workaround referenced in the Bug doesn't make sense. They reference adding some GoDaddy certs, but when you look at the URL they reference (*.wbx2.com) that is signed by Hydrant not Go Daddy.

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