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Re: Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software...
I always struggle with the competing schools of thought on keeping things up to date.

The network guys don’t want to update anything because of more bugs, but I still feel that’s old school where we weren’t talking about the same level of exposure and frequency of updates. I like to keep up to date because I don’t like digging a hole for myself on features, user doc, bug resolutions, compat, device packs etc. And the number of severe issues has rounded off, at least for UC where it seems the platforms are largely mature.

The 11.5 train has been great as far as not having too many issues, and having a good set of features and such backported into them from 12/12.5.

APNs are a usability thing with Jabber for sure, I don’t know how anyone lives with that app and not having that. It would be like going back in time when I had my StarTAC and had to look at the flashing LED to see if I’d wandered out of service or into an expensive “Roaming” area just to make sure I could receive a phone call. No thanks.

Looking forward to future support for push on Android too so we can catch those up.



From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 11:11 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software...

What's funny is, this has been going on for like 4 years now.

But just like we, as kids, always waited until the last day to complete our science fair projects, we wait on securing LDAP, moving to O365's oauth, and enabling APNs.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:49 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Like we didn’t have enough to worry about.


https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/705/fn70555.html


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Re: Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software... [ In reply to ]
We’ve moved to APNs. But we’re still going to have to upgrade all our severs. :(

And clients. At least mobile clients upgrade auto.

This reminds me more of daylight savings time and all those cop files and restarts.

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On May 15, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com> wrote:

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What's funny is, this has been going on for like 4 years now.

But just like we, as kids, always waited until the last day to complete our science fair projects, we wait on securing LDAP, moving to O365's oauth, and enabling APNs.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:49 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Like we didn’t have enough to worry about.


https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/705/fn70555.html


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Re: Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software... [ In reply to ]
Right now, it’s competing times.

Everything is prioritized.

It’s crazy.

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On May 15, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Pawlowski, Adam <ajp26@buffalo.edu> wrote:

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I always struggle with the competing schools of thought on keeping things up to date.

The network guys don’t want to update anything because of more bugs, but I still feel that’s old school where we weren’t talking about the same level of exposure and frequency of updates. I like to keep up to date because I don’t like digging a hole for myself on features, user doc, bug resolutions, compat, device packs etc. And the number of severe issues has rounded off, at least for UC where it seems the platforms are largely mature.

The 11.5 train has been great as far as not having too many issues, and having a good set of features and such backported into them from 12/12.5.

APNs are a usability thing with Jabber for sure, I don’t know how anyone lives with that app and not having that. It would be like going back in time when I had my StarTAC and had to look at the flashing LED to see if I’d wandered out of service or into an expensive “Roaming” area just to make sure I could receive a phone call. No thanks.

Looking forward to future support for push on Android too so we can catch those up.



From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 11:11 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software...

What's funny is, this has been going on for like 4 years now.

But just like we, as kids, always waited until the last day to complete our science fair projects, we wait on securing LDAP, moving to O365's oauth, and enabling APNs.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:49 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Like we didn’t have enough to worry about.


https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/705/fn70555.html


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Re: Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software... [ In reply to ]
Yeah that was a good one.

Back when I did support on a selection of lucent legend, partner acs, etc people were on our case the day DST flipped over to fix that clock on the phone right away.

Used to have to drive around and plug a console into some of them because the modem didn’t work or there wasn’t one.

I believe we’ve used prime provisioning to some success on our clusters as well.

Jabber client upgrades …. Uhhh well I hope you have a management system like SCCM or something. The administrator requirement really stings for these things.




From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 11:32 AM
To: Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>
Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software...


We’ve moved to APNs. But we’re still going to have to upgrade all our severs. :(

And clients. At least mobile clients upgrade auto.

This reminds me more of daylight savings time and all those cop files and restarts.

Sent from my iPhone


On May 15, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>> wrote:
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What's funny is, this has been going on for like 4 years now.

But just like we, as kids, always waited until the last day to complete our science fair projects, we wait on securing LDAP, moving to O365's oauth, and enabling APNs.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:49 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Like we didn’t have enough to worry about.


https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/705/fn70555.html


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Re: Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software... [ In reply to ]
Yes, we have SCCM for about 1/3 of our client desktops. The others are locally administered.

Our SCCM team are quite busy and prioritize things accordingly. I’m hoping to get some points with free coffee the next time around so I can get my build done quicker. ????

The biggest thing I found was that we really needed to deploy with UPN disabled and the CLEAR=1, which meant building an install file for those non-managed clients. Which meant, if I wanted to avoid security issues, signing the build with an EV code signing cert. The guys at DigiCert were cool, and helped me along. But dang it if I remember all those steps.




From: Pawlowski, Adam <ajp26@buffalo.edu>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 11:47 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software...

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Yeah that was a good one.

Back when I did support on a selection of lucent legend, partner acs, etc people were on our case the day DST flipped over to fix that clock on the phone right away.

Used to have to drive around and plug a console into some of them because the modem didn’t work or there wasn’t one.

I believe we’ve used prime provisioning to some success on our clusters as well.

Jabber client upgrades …. Uhhh well I hope you have a management system like SCCM or something. The administrator requirement really stings for these things.




From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 11:32 AM
To: Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>>
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Field Notice: FN - 70555 - Legacy VoIP Mode and iOS 13 Apple Push Notification Service Changes That Affect Cisco Jabber, Cisco Webex Teams, Cisco Unified Communications Manager and IM & Presence Service, and Cisco Expressway - Software...


We’ve moved to APNs. But we’re still going to have to upgrade all our severs. :(

And clients. At least mobile clients upgrade auto.

This reminds me more of daylight savings time and all those cop files and restarts.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 15, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Anthony Holloway <avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com<mailto:avholloway+cisco-voip@gmail.com>> wrote:
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CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp@uoguelph.ca<mailto:IThelp@uoguelph.ca>

What's funny is, this has been going on for like 4 years now.

But just like we, as kids, always waited until the last day to complete our science fair projects, we wait on securing LDAP, moving to O365's oauth, and enabling APNs.

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:49 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:

Like we didn’t have enough to worry about.


https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/field-notices/705/fn70555.html


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