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Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there
Hi all,

I Have a customer with an old Windows 2012 server with Cisco TMS 15.4.4 installed.
We are wanting to migrate to a new Server 2019 and SQL Express 2017.

The install and upgrade guide says to install the current version first, restore the database and then upgrade to TMS 15.11.

The problem is, is that TMS 15.4.4 says it won't install because dotnet 4.5 is not installed. However Windows server 2019 comes with dotnet 4.7 installed.
It's supposed to be compatible with versions down to 4.0 however TMS fails the validation and doesn't install.
There is a bunch of published bugs and the work-around is to uninstall dotnet 4.7 and then install 4.5. However this doesn't work and basically screws up the system and then you have to use DISM to re-install dotnet.

Has anyone ever seen this and has a suggestion on how to get TMS 15.4.4 to install? Or to get dotnet 4.5 to install? Dotnet 4.5 / or 4.0 won't install because it says 4.7 is installed.

Cheers
Dana
Re: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there [ In reply to ]
Sorry. Not thinking. Maybe I need to upgrade the old server to TMS 15.11 then do the new build and migration.

Let me give this a go.

From: Dana Tong
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 3:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there

Hi all,

I Have a customer with an old Windows 2012 server with Cisco TMS 15.4.4 installed.
We are wanting to migrate to a new Server 2019 and SQL Express 2017.

The install and upgrade guide says to install the current version first, restore the database and then upgrade to TMS 15.11.

The problem is, is that TMS 15.4.4 says it won't install because dotnet 4.5 is not installed. However Windows server 2019 comes with dotnet 4.7 installed.
It's supposed to be compatible with versions down to 4.0 however TMS fails the validation and doesn't install.
There is a bunch of published bugs and the work-around is to uninstall dotnet 4.7 and then install 4.5. However this doesn't work and basically screws up the system and then you have to use DISM to re-install dotnet.

Has anyone ever seen this and has a suggestion on how to get TMS 15.4.4 to install? Or to get dotnet 4.5 to install? Dotnet 4.5 / or 4.0 won't install because it says 4.7 is installed.

Cheers
Dana
Re: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there [ In reply to ]
Err that won't work sorry. Turns out the old server is 2008. And I can't find a TMS version that is supported on both 2019 and 2008.

Are there any tools to migrate the DB file?

Cheers
Dana


From: Dana Tong
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 4:01 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: RE: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there

Sorry. Not thinking. Maybe I need to upgrade the old server to TMS 15.11 then do the new build and migration.

Let me give this a go.

From: Dana Tong
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 3:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there

Hi all,

I Have a customer with an old Windows 2012 server with Cisco TMS 15.4.4 installed.
We are wanting to migrate to a new Server 2019 and SQL Express 2017.

The install and upgrade guide says to install the current version first, restore the database and then upgrade to TMS 15.11.

The problem is, is that TMS 15.4.4 says it won't install because dotnet 4.5 is not installed. However Windows server 2019 comes with dotnet 4.7 installed.
It's supposed to be compatible with versions down to 4.0 however TMS fails the validation and doesn't install.
There is a bunch of published bugs and the work-around is to uninstall dotnet 4.7 and then install 4.5. However this doesn't work and basically screws up the system and then you have to use DISM to re-install dotnet.

Has anyone ever seen this and has a suggestion on how to get TMS 15.4.4 to install? Or to get dotnet 4.5 to install? Dotnet 4.5 / or 4.0 won't install because it says 4.7 is installed.

Cheers
Dana
Re: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there [ In reply to ]
There are instructions to migrate the DB:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/conferencing/telepresence-management-suite-tms/212319-tms-sql-database-migration-from-one-sql.html

Have you tried installing the older version of .NET? I know you can have multiple versions installed, though not sure if the two you referenced can both be installed at the same time.

> On Apr 27, 2020, at 01:14, Dana Tong <dana.tong@yellit.com.au> wrote:
>
> ?
> Err that won’t work sorry. Turns out the old server is 2008. And I can’t find a TMS version that is supported on both 2019 and 2008.
>
> Are there any tools to migrate the DB file?
>
> Cheers
> Dana
>
>
> From: Dana Tong
> Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 4:01 PM
> To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there
>
> Sorry. Not thinking. Maybe I need to upgrade the old server to TMS 15.11 then do the new build and migration.
>
> Let me give this a go.
>
> From: Dana Tong
> Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 3:58 PM
> To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there
>
> Hi all,
>
> I Have a customer with an old Windows 2012 server with Cisco TMS 15.4.4 installed.
> We are wanting to migrate to a new Server 2019 and SQL Express 2017.
>
> The install and upgrade guide says to install the current version first, restore the database and then upgrade to TMS 15.11.
>
> The problem is, is that TMS 15.4.4 says it won’t install because dotnet 4.5 is not installed. However Windows server 2019 comes with dotnet 4.7 installed.
> It’s supposed to be compatible with versions down to 4.0 however TMS fails the validation and doesn’t install.
> There is a bunch of published bugs and the work-around is to uninstall dotnet 4.7 and then install 4.5. However this doesn’t work and basically screws up the system and then you have to use DISM to re-install dotnet.
>
> Has anyone ever seen this and has a suggestion on how to get TMS 15.4.4 to install? Or to get dotnet 4.5 to install? Dotnet 4.5 / or 4.0 won’t install because it says 4.7 is installed.
>
> Cheers
> Dana
>
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Re: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there [ In reply to ]
So the actual outcome was to installed TMS 15.11 on Windows 2019. The installer upgraded the DB upon install.
The key was to import the DB prior to install and let the installer detect the database.


From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Dana Tong
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 4:13 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there

Err that won't work sorry. Turns out the old server is 2008. And I can't find a TMS version that is supported on both 2019 and 2008.

Are there any tools to migrate the DB file?

Cheers
Dana


From: Dana Tong
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 4:01 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there

Sorry. Not thinking. Maybe I need to upgrade the old server to TMS 15.11 then do the new build and migration.

Let me give this a go.

From: Dana Tong
Sent: Monday, 27 April 2020 3:58 PM
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Windows and MS Dotnet gurus out there

Hi all,

I Have a customer with an old Windows 2012 server with Cisco TMS 15.4.4 installed.
We are wanting to migrate to a new Server 2019 and SQL Express 2017.

The install and upgrade guide says to install the current version first, restore the database and then upgrade to TMS 15.11.

The problem is, is that TMS 15.4.4 says it won't install because dotnet 4.5 is not installed. However Windows server 2019 comes with dotnet 4.7 installed.
It's supposed to be compatible with versions down to 4.0 however TMS fails the validation and doesn't install.
There is a bunch of published bugs and the work-around is to uninstall dotnet 4.7 and then install 4.5. However this doesn't work and basically screws up the system and then you have to use DISM to re-install dotnet.

Has anyone ever seen this and has a suggestion on how to get TMS 15.4.4 to install? Or to get dotnet 4.5 to install? Dotnet 4.5 / or 4.0 won't install because it says 4.7 is installed.

Cheers
Dana