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migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)
Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Yes there is.

The guide on https://upgrade.cisco.com can walk you through it.

-Ryan

From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> on behalf of Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Date: Monday, March 2, 2020 at 10:45 AM
To: cisco-voip list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn’t allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
It's not free unless you are on Flex Plan:
https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7800-series/firmware-migration-master-guide.pdf



Matthew Loraditch
Sr. Network Engineer
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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:44 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

[EXTERNAL]


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
OK. That’s good to know. FLEX is on our roadmap. We’ll have to see how the per user per device things works out though. We have a lot of shared devices not tied to users. I’m guessing our KW count would have to match up accordingly.

Doesn’t look like there’s a way to migrate from MPP to enterprise feature set though. Only asking in the event I see a sale price online for MPP phones.

But it looks it’s not worth the trouble.

From: Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:48 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

It’s not free unless you are on Flex Plan:
https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7800-series/firmware-migration-master-guide.pdf



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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:44 AM
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Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

[EXTERNAL]


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn’t allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Ooops. Sorry. I didn’t scroll far enough. Maybe it is worth the trouble! ????

From: Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:54 AM
To: Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

OK. That’s good to know. FLEX is on our roadmap. We’ll have to see how the per user per device things works out though. We have a lot of shared devices not tied to users. I’m guessing our KW count would have to match up accordingly.

Doesn’t look like there’s a way to migrate from MPP to enterprise feature set though. Only asking in the event I see a sale price online for MPP phones.

But it looks it’s not worth the trouble.

From: Matthew Loraditch <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com<mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>>
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:48 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>>; voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: RE: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

It’s not free unless you are on Flex Plan:
https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/unified-ip-phone-7800-series/firmware-migration-master-guide.pdf



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From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:44 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

[EXTERNAL]


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn’t allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Thanks!


From: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <rratliff@cisco.com>
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 10:47 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Cc: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

Yes there is.

The guide on https://upgrade.cisco.com can walk you through it.

-Ryan

From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>> on behalf of Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>>
Date: Monday, March 2, 2020 at 10:45 AM
To: cisco-voip list <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn’t allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
MPP to CUCM free, but cannot go back without a paid license, which happens
to be included with cloud flex.

No advantage to buying MPP if you're going to register them to CUCM.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio
Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to
load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?



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Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
I've seen a few of these phones at a high discount with some online suppliers. But not as high for the CUCM version. A few hundred dollars difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 11:30 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; 'voyp list, cisco-voip' <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

MPP to CUCM free, but cannot go back without a paid license, which happens to be included with cloud flex.

No advantage to buying MPP if you're going to register them to CUCM.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net) <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?



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Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Hello,

Just one point to clarify--MPP to CUCM is not free unless you are using
Flex licensing. There is a special license you must buy to do this. So, if
you buy MPP phones, you will have a pile of bricks unless you get the
license or are a Flex subscriber.

Thanks,

James

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:32 PM NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com> wrote:

> MPP to CUCM free, but cannot go back without a paid license, which happens
> to be included with cloud flex.
>
> No advantage to buying MPP if you're going to register them to CUCM.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
> To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)
>
>
> Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to
> load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Ah. Interesting. I thought you needed flex to go from cucm to mpp. But I guess, flex is that two way street thingy, so you need it for both.

Good to know.


From: James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:28 AM
To: NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

Hello,

Just one point to clarify--MPP to CUCM is not free unless you are using Flex licensing. There is a special license you must buy to do this. So, if you buy MPP phones, you will have a pile of bricks unless you get the license or are a Flex subscriber.

Thanks,

James

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:32 PM NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com<mailto:nateccie@gmail.com>> wrote:
MPP to CUCM free, but cannot go back without a paid license, which happens
to be included with cloud flex.

No advantage to buying MPP if you're going to register them to CUCM.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio
Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>)
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to
load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?



_______________________________________________
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Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Well, it's included with Flex, but there is a one-off license you can buy
to do this without going to Flex.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> Ah. Interesting. I thought you needed flex to go from cucm to mpp. But I
> guess, flex is that two way street thingy, so you need it for both.
>
>
>
> Good to know.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:28 AM
> *To:* NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>; voyp list, cisco-voip <
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Just one point to clarify--MPP to CUCM is not free unless you are using
> Flex licensing. There is a special license you must buy to do this. So, if
> you buy MPP phones, you will have a pile of bricks unless you get the
> license or are a Flex subscriber.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:32 PM NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> MPP to CUCM free, but cannot go back without a paid license, which happens
> to be included with cloud flex.
>
> No advantage to buying MPP if you're going to register them to CUCM.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net> On Behalf Of Lelio
> Fulgenzi
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
> To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net)
> <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
> Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)
>
>
> Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to
> load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> cisco-voip mailing list
> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip
>
>
Re: migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back) [ In reply to ]
Gotcha.

Thanks.



From: James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:17 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca>
Cc: NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com>; voyp list, cisco-voip <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

Well, it's included with Flex, but there is a one-off license you can buy to do this without going to Flex.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 3:14 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>> wrote:
Ah. Interesting. I thought you needed flex to go from cucm to mpp. But I guess, flex is that two way street thingy, so you need it for both.

Good to know.


From: James Buchanan <james.buchanan2@gmail.com<mailto:james.buchanan2@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 2:28 AM
To: NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com<mailto:nateccie@gmail.com>>
Cc: Lelio Fulgenzi <lelio@uoguelph.ca<mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca>>; voyp list, cisco-voip <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)

Hello,

Just one point to clarify--MPP to CUCM is not free unless you are using Flex licensing. There is a special license you must buy to do this. So, if you buy MPP phones, you will have a pile of bricks unless you get the license or are a Flex subscriber.

Thanks,

James

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:32 PM NateCCIE <nateccie@gmail.com<mailto:nateccie@gmail.com>> wrote:
MPP to CUCM free, but cannot go back without a paid license, which happens
to be included with cloud flex.

No advantage to buying MPP if you're going to register them to CUCM.

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-voip <cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net>> On Behalf Of Lelio
Fulgenzi
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2020 8:44 AM
To: voyp list, cisco-voip (cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>)
<cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>>
Subject: [cisco-voip] migrating mpp phones to callmanager (and back)


Is there anything specially about an mpp phone that wouldn't allow you to
load CUCM software on it? And then go back to MPP when needed?



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