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> On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 12:15, <cnsp@marenda.net> wrote:
>
> > Just my 0.01$
>
> Can I get a refund?

just come and collect a ningi in my shed on Kakafroon Kappa,
but beware the vogon's.

Yes, you'll get a free Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster.

Juergen.

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> Gert Doering
> Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:22 AM
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 11:36:09AM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote:
> > Of course, all going over BGP :-).
>
> This is *not* funny.
>
> The work that IETF/IDR is doing these days is truly and deeply scaring me.
> "Hey, we have this nice reliable protocol to transport information from
here
> to there. Why not add tons of different other things we want to be
> transported from routers to collectors, or between routers, to BGP,
because,
> you know, we can?".
>
> Trying to understand what a BGP speaker is doing is difficult enough
today.
> Or, for that matter, get an implementation right.
>
Well how I see it is that no matter how hard IETF (or "IDR Elders") tries,
certain percentage of junk always gets past the "short-sighted idea filter"
and eventually makes it into and RFC.
It's just these days there seem to be overall increase in junk ideas with
hypes around let's put everything through BGP (or EVPN-VXLAN for that
matter) -so I guess the filter gets overloaded and naturally the overall
number of bad ideas that makes it through increases at times.
To be fair to IETF folks though,
On the latest IDR (virtual) session on march 30, a number of new "let's use
BGP for..." ideas where straight up "slapped", yeah wasn't pretty (or
professional in one case, in my opinion) - but I guess one gets pretty tired
of stupid ideas after a while).

adam


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On 4/May/20 12:21, Gert Doering wrote:

> This is *not* funny.
>
> The work that IETF/IDR is doing these days is truly and deeply scaring
> me. "Hey, we have this nice reliable protocol to transport information
> from here to there. Why not add tons of different other things we want
> to be transported from routers to collectors, or between routers, to
> BGP, because, you know, we can?".
>
> Trying to understand what a BGP speaker is doing is difficult enough
> today. Or, for that matter, get an implementation right.

I wasn't kidding.

For years, I've been saying it won't be long until BGP is transporting DNS.

Mark.